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   <title>11/1/2011 Council meeting :   Acclaro,Check your &amp;#034;new...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 9:26am<br /><br />Acclaro,<div>Check your "new messages" here (up near the upper, left-hand corner).</div>]]>
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   <title>11/1/2011 Council meeting : The way the city runs the numbers,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 9:10am<br /><br />The way the city runs the numbers, and then the mismatch, is impossible to&nbsp;understand and keep track of the ledger. Sunset was said to have cost $75,000 to tear down, by an outside firm, but the city did it for nothing, other than the existing staff.&nbsp;I don't know how "phantom" Dave Duristch's numbers really were when he said in 2004, to fix the streets was a $150,000,000 problem, and would take 50 years to do. Maybe its&nbsp;really 10%&nbsp;that amount, but Mr. Becker voted no on it, when they said when he was city manager, at least 50 years or more time was required even using a 2.25% tax, and the delay&nbsp;would make it more expensive and the patching was a band-aid. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I believe it averaged nearly $1,000,000 dedicated to streets by ordinance &nbsp;in 1986. With a 25 year progression, inflation (GDP), that $ 1 Mm would today, with added cost for asphalt, gas about .80/gal in 1986, the same expenditure today, would be equal to over $3.5 Mm needed today. If you bought a house for $195,000 in 1988, to break-even in today's dollars, you'd have to sell it for about $365,000. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Unless there are major changes on council, willing to make tough cuts like West Chester does on the school system, council should&nbsp;raise taxes to 2.0%, as that&nbsp;is what Hamilton is, what Dayton is, what Cincinnati is.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I know the better deal in Blue Ash, West Chester, Mason, and Middletown will never be competitive for business with those areas,&nbsp;but they&nbsp;can bring the tax rate up, and should dedicate .5% of the 2.0%, to fixing the roads and just getting it done. I'm basing this on the number Diristch gave. If its .1$ of that, do it, get in done in 5 years, but the band-aid just isn't working. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And while complimenting greatly Mr. Laubach for the legislation, and council voting on it, in today's dollars, its the effect of putting 1/3 of the dollars back if it were 1986, with greater road miles, and much greater problems with repairs. A step in the right direction, but concil and the city won't push for cuts.&nbsp;They haven't since this budget talk begain in 2000, and the only way to fix the roads properly, is take .5% of a 2% tax rate, and plow it into streets maybe for 5-10 years, then have a vote to tame it back to 1.5%. or on auto pilot, with a firm number as to what it will cost. Like Sunset, maybe a projected $200,000,000 problem is really a $15,000,000. fix.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Who knows, maybe this is what Mr. Becker had iin mine when he voted no.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 8:38am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">In November of 2006, when the 0.75% payroll tax levyincrease was coming up for a vote, City Hall promised that 0.25% would gotowards Public Safety.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Well, that levyfailed…but the following year a 0.25% levy, solely for Public Safety DIDpass!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Let’s look back at a November 3,2006 article in the Middletown Journal to see what was promised for the PublicSafety portion (0.25%) of the levy that failed, and ask ourselves if this is whatwe got when a 0.25% Public Safety levy DID pass:<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><table style="width: 100%; mso-cellspacing: .05in; mso-yfti-tbllook: 1184;" border="0" cellSpacing="6" cellPadding="0" width="100%"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><t><t><tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes;"><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><ul><font face="Times New Roman">   </font><li style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: normal; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>BYLINE:&nbsp;</span></b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dave Greber       Staff Writer dgreber@coxohio.com<o:p></o:p></span></li><font face="Times New Roman">   </font><li style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: normal; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>DATE:&nbsp;</span></b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>November 3, 2006<o:p></o:p></span></li><font face="Times New Roman">  </font></ul><font face="Times New Roman">  </font></td><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><ul><font face="Times New Roman">   </font><li style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: normal; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list .5in;"><b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>PUBLICATION:&nbsp;</span></b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Middletown Journal (OH)<o:p></o:p></span></li><font face="Times New Roman">  </font></ul><font face="Times New Roman">  </font></td><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><ul><font face="Times New Roman">   </font><li style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: normal; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list .5in;"><b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>SECTION:&nbsp;</span></b><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>MAIN 1<o:p></o:p></span></li><font face="Times New Roman">  </font></ul><font face="Times New Roman">  </font></td><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"></td><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"></td><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></tr><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 1; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;" colSpan="3"></td><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"></td><font face="Times New Roman">  </font><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"></td><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></tr><font face="Times New Roman"></font></t></t></table><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Editor'sNote: As soon as city officials began talking about bringing an income taxincrease before voters, area residents wanted to know details. In July, CityManager Bill Becker and other department heads presented their plans for howadditional funds would be spent. Still, residents wanted more. The followingseries takes a deeper look at how the additional $9 million per year would bespent among streets, public safety, economic development, parks and recreationand the city's Rainy Day Fund. Today: Middletown Division of&nbsp;Fire&nbsp;andDivision of Police.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Thedifference between yes and no on the city's proposed income tax increase willbe huge, the city's police and&nbsp;fire&nbsp;chiefs say.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Staffsizes. Response times. Crime rate. Each will be affected by the outcome of theproposed 0.75 percent income tax levy on the Tuesday ballot, according topolice Chief Mike Bruck and&nbsp;fire&nbsp;Chief John Sauter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>The 'yes'vote<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>For theDivision of Police, a 'yes' vote Tuesday will allow the force to be moreproactive than reactive, Bruck said.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Inaddition to the $250,000 earmarked for the city's police force, Bruck isbudgeting for between $300,000 and $350,000 more after&nbsp;2007.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Thedepartment would reinstitute foot and bike patrols; officers would spend moreface-to-face time with residents; response times would decrease; and therewould be more opportunity to apply for state and federal grants for programslike Weed and Seed, which has seen success in cities such as Hamilton.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>"Allof our money would go right back into services for the people," Brucksaid. "We need to drive our crime rate down. We need to make thiscommunity safer. That all takes money, and every penny is going to go to theservices that will allow that to happen."<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Preventionand training are key for the Middletown&nbsp;fire&nbsp;services, twothings they have done little of since cutbacks squeezed the department in 2005.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Approvalof the November tax increase will add three more firefighters to Division of&nbsp;Fire,said Sauter and Assistant Chief Steven Botts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 7.5pt; line-height: 16.8pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Threemore men and women on the line - for a total of 20 per shift - allows more timefor training, lower response times and greater availability of resources andequipment.</span></p><div><a href="http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_acti&#111;n=doc&amp;p_docid=1152B95E198D5608&amp;p_docnum=50" target="_blank"><u><font color="#000080">http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&amp;p_docid=1152B95E198D5608&amp;p_docnum=50</font></u></a>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="3" face="Calibri">Now I ask the citizens:&nbsp; Is this what we received???</font></div><div><font size="3" face="Calibri">Firefighters and police officers:&nbsp; Is this what YOU received???</font></div><div><font color="#ff0000" size="4" face="Calibri"><strong><em>What happened to the MILLIONS of dollars???</em></strong></font></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>If you want more of the same, vote for the same old gang next Tuesday!!!&nbsp; None of them think anything is wrong.&nbsp; None of them think any money has been mis-directed.&nbsp; They all think we need higher taxes.&nbsp; None of them have asked: <strong><em><font color="#ff0000">Where are the Public Safety MILLIONS???</font></em></strong></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=387">TudorBrown</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 7:38am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" alt="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mike_Presta wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by TudorBrown" alt="Originally posted by TudorBrown" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>TudorBrown wrote:</strong><br /><br />Mr. Presta,<br><br>Would you support Laubach’s capital street funding legislation?<br><br><br></td></tr></table><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="ms&#111;normal"=""><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">TudorBrown,<!--?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /--><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="ms&#111;normal"=""><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">I support the concept, but I think that the amount should behigher!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I also believe that everysingle penny of CBDG money that we can get our hands on should go towardsstreet repairs/repaving.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font></td></tr></table><br><br><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Up" /><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 7:17am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;noSpacing"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">The 2006 police and fire budgets were approximately $11million and $8 million, respectively. <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;noSpacing"><o:p><font size="3" face="Calibri">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;noSpacing"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Note this from a July 19, 2006, article in the MiddletownJournal about budget discussions:<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;noSpacing"><o:p><font size="3" face="Calibri">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">“</font><span style=': white; color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>What would they do?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style=': white; color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>The Middletown Police Department - with an extra$250,000 - would replace six officers. They also would be able to add four newofficers to the force and resume community policing, crime prevention effortsand some training.</span><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in;" ="Ms&#111;noSpacing"><span style=': white; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>The Middletown&nbsp;<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">Fire</span>&nbsp;Department - with an additional $250,000 - would hirefour firefighters, bring daily staffing up to 20 from 19 and add one moreperson to station five.”*</span><o:p></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;noSpacing"><o:p><font size="3" face="Calibri">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;noSpacing"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Please note that, with a TOTAL of only $500,000, bothdepartments claimed they would be able to INCREASE personnel to provide addedsafety for the citizens of Middletown.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">*Here is the link to the first Journal story quotedabove:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></font></font><a href="http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_acti&#111;n=doc&amp;p_docid=112F890C41525548&amp;p_docnum=4" target="_blank"><u><font size="3" face="Calibri">http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&amp;p_docid=112F890C41525548&amp;p_docnum=4</font></u></a><o:p></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">The 0.75% levy on the ballot in November of 2006 failed, andthe story changed by the time an article in the January 25, 2007 MiddletownJournal was published:<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; line-height: normal;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style=': white; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>“Funding for safety forces.Should the city consider a property tax levy or an income tax increase?</span><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; line-height: normal;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style=': white; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Firefighter Jon Harvey, whoalso is the president of the Middletown Firefighters Association, said the topconcern is having enough money for the city's safety forces.</span><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; line-height: normal;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style=': white; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Police Chief Mike Bruck saidthere are number of issues, such as how the city is going to operate in&nbsp;<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">2007</span>, what will the city do in 2008,and come up with a long-term funding solution following the November defeat ofa city income tax rate increase.</span><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; line-height: normal;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style=': white; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Bruck said police need $250,000to cover the costs of two patrol officers, a jailer and a dispatcher.</span><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; line-height: normal;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style=': white; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>City Manager Bill Becker saidthe council will have to act on the temporary&nbsp;<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">fire</span>&nbsp;<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">budget</span>&nbsp;byFeb. 20.</span><span style='font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style=': white; color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Acting&nbsp;<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">Fire</span>&nbsp;Chief Steve Botts said the&nbsp;<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">fire</span>&nbsp;division needs about $486,000 to keep all five&nbsp;<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">fire</span>&nbsp;stations open and keep servicesat the current levels.</span><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">”**<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">In just six months (from July 19, 2006 to January 25, 2007)it appears that instead of $500,000 to INCREASE safety forces, it will take$750,000 just to maintain the same level!!!<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3" face="Calibri">**Here is the link to the second Journal story: </font><a href="http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_acti&#111;n=doc&amp;p_docid=116E10DCB9F35F78&amp;p_docnum=8" target="_blank"><u><font size="3" face="Calibri">http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&amp;p_docid=116E10DCB9F35F78&amp;p_docnum=8</font></u></a><o:p></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">However, instead of the $750,000 mentioned in the January25, 2007 article, the voters gave City Hall the 0.25% Public Safety levy, beginningin 2008 to the <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt;">tune of OVER $2.5MILLION per year!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Calibri">So, firstthey needed $500,000/year to INCREASE public safety.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Then, just six months later, they needed$750,000/year to simply MAINTAIN the same level of services.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Then, less than a year later we gave themnearly THREE MILLION PER YEAR, and they CUT SERVICES!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>(And less than four years later, they arebroke again!!!)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: red; line-height: 115%; 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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 6:31am<br /><br />Today's Journal...<br /><br />Debate continues on 2012 Middletown budget<br />Firefighter position restored<br /><br />MIDDLETOWN — City Council on Tuesday night passionately debated the proposed 2012 budget.<br /><br />It was agreed that one Middletown fire department employee will be added back into the 2012 budget.<br /><br />Last month, a plan called for cutting 10 positions. The money to keep the position — between $75,000 and $100,000 — will be paid for from funds left over from the public safety levy passed in 2008, council members said<br /><br /><br />THE SAFETY LEVY THAT WAS PASSED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS ADVERTISED BY CITY OFFICIALS AS "IF THE VOTERS PASS THIS LEVY, ALL SAFETY SERVICES WILL BE MAINTAINED".......AGAIN.....MAINTAINED. NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING 10 POSITIONS. THE VOTERS WOULD BE CRAZY TO PASS ANOTHER LEVY. TO KEEP BELIEVING THESE CITY LEADERS WHO PROMISE ONE THING BEFORE THE LEVY VOTE AND INVOKE A "CHANGE IN ATTITUDE" AFTER THE PASSAGE IS ASSININE. VOTERS ARE TO BLAME FOR CONSTANTLY GIVING THESE LEADERS WHAT THEY WANT ON FALSE PROMISES. WHY IS IT CONSTANTLY DONE? VOTE DOWN ALL LEVIES. THEY SEEM TO BE PRESENTED ON THE PRETENSE OF LIES AND DECEIT. AS THE SPIDER SAYS........"STARVE THE BEAST". CUT OFF ALL FUNDING. TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT OF THEIR HANDS. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 4:59am<br /><br />Carolus was right about $4 million left in police and fire levy funds. It is one of the City's best kept secrets.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 12:59am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Here is how you can find figures that won’t lie!!!<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p><font size="3" face="Calibri">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Find the TOTAL spent on police and fire during calendar year2007 (“A”).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Find the totals spent onpolice and fire during calendar years 2008, ’09, ’10, and ’11 (“B”).<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p><font size="3" face="Calibri">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Subtract four times “A” from “B”, and call thatdifference “C”.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Compare “C” to the totalcollected by the Public Safety levy during 2008, ’09, ’10, AND ’11.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>(The total collected during those four yearsshould be somewhere near $11 MILLION.)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>Subtract “C” from this figure, and that should be approximately what isleft on 12/31/2011.&nbsp; </font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p><font size="3" face="Calibri">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">This figure does NOT include<strike> the second half of</strike> 2007, nor<strike>the first half of</strike> 2012.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>(<strike>The presentPublic Safety levy runs from mid-2007 through mid-2012</strike>.)</font></font></p><font face="Calibri"><div><font size="3"></font></div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p><font size="3">******************************************************</font></o:p></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p><font size="3"><font color="#ff0000" size="4"><strong><em>NOTE!!!!&nbsp; I was WRONG</em></strong></font> about this!!!!</font></o:p></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p><font size="3">The Public Safety levy was not passed until November of 2007.&nbsp; Collection did not begin until January 1, 2008.&nbsp; The levy expires December 31, 2012.&nbsp; I have struck through the portion above that is in error.&nbsp; The remainder is correct.&nbsp; <font color="#ff0000">(6:59 a.m., 11/2/2011)</font></font></o:p></p></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 12:39am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Seriously, though, thePublic Safety levy of 2007 was sold as money that was to be used for publicsafety <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">in addition to</i></b> that which was already being spent.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Instead, much of it was used for publicsafety <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">in place of</i></b> that which was already being spent.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>The public safety money that it “replaced”was then squandered on pet projects, risky schemes, raises (or promotions) forfavored city employees, and to resolve the deficit spending that had plaguedour city budget in some recent years. <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4212<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 12:25am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jack Black" alt="Originally posted by Jack Black" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jack Black wrote:</strong><br /><br />Breaking News..........................<div></div>According to today's unscientific "Mort Sample of Likely City Council&nbsp;Voters"&nbsp;it's projected that she will receive somewhere around 119%&nbsp;of the vote.&nbsp; The margin for error is likely to be 50-75%.&nbsp; This information is provided by Alfred E. Newman.<div></div><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" /></td></tr></table>Mr. Black,<div>Thank you for posting the "What, me worry?" poll. <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>According to that poll, it appears that my only hope is that Acclaro is correct that the Fenwick folks and the rest of the Catholic population in the First Ward will vote as a block, and that they go my way!!!&nbsp; After all, I donated many, many times more towards the construction of the new high school than I have spent on this campaign...and I have an aunt who is a nun!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" /></div>]]>
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