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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? : Any response from Ms. Andrew or...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 6:45am<br /><br />Any response from Ms. Andrew or Mr. Fiora? What will we discuss at our next school board meeting about putting into place a fixative for this theft of taxpayer money? Could our screening of personnel connected with your school system be upgraded and more intense? No one, in the whole school system, paid attention to what was occuring as the computers were being replaced at such a rapid rate and in such quantity? Perhaps an escort for service contractor personnel while in the school buildings is in order here, be it during or after school hours. ]]>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? :    spiderjohn wrote:   wow--I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 1:35am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by spiderjohn" alt="Originally posted by spiderjohn" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>spiderjohn wrote:</strong><br /><br />wow--I would really like to try one of those macbook pros<div>any of you use them?</div><div>...</div></td></tr></table>Spider,<div>I, personally, have never used any Mac.&nbsp; However, both my daughters use Macs almost exclusively, and my younger daughter has a Macbook Pro and likes it so much she seldom uses her PC at all.&nbsp; Of course they are both artsy types. &nbsp;(But don't tell anyone!!!&nbsp; I don't want to ruin my anti-arts image.)</div>]]>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? :    spiderjohn wrote:... how...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 1:18am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by spiderjohn" alt="Originally posted by spiderjohn" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>spiderjohn wrote:</strong><br /><br /><div>... how many do we have?</div><div>how many DID we have?</div><div>how many&nbsp;SHOULD we have?...</div><div>&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>Well, Spider, I certainly can't answer those questions, and if the folowing excerpt from the most recent City Manager's Newsletter is any indication, it looks like no one else is "set up to answer those questions" either!!<div>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="2">From the Nov. 28, 2011, City Manager's newsletter:</font></div><div></div><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><div><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;'>"Larry has been stealing computers since 2008.  <font color="#ff0000"><strong><em>We estimate</em></strong> </font>that he has stolen <strong><em><font color="#ff0000">around</font></em></strong> 400 computers;"</span></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;'>Of course I realize by posting this, I risk having SupportMiddletown hurl another "conspiracy theory" accusation (or even an "accusation" accusation) at me, and this time even include the City Manager in along with the Middletown Police, Scripps Media, the MCSD, and WCPO as co-conspirators to make the city look bad!!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></span></div>]]>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? :    wow--I would really like...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;30&nbsp;2011 at 9:53pm<br /><br />wow--I would really like to try one of those macbook pros<div>any of you use them?</div><div>and we lost 400 of them without a major red flag or concern?</div><div>how many do we have?</div><div>how many DID we have?</div><div>how many&nbsp;SHOULD we have?</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Makes it tough for the working taxpayer to have much faith in any level or direction of bureaocracy these days</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>CYA seems to be the preferred mode of action</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Do people REALLY wonder why service levys fail by large margins?</div>]]>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? : ThanksMr.P- had know idea this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=797">ground swat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;30&nbsp;2011 at 8:12pm<br /><br />Thanks&nbsp;Mr.P- had know idea this happened or was reported. Knew about the band instruments being stolen but 400 units of one brand?&nbsp; Of course we don't have a gay porn star teaching at our school like they do up in Mass.&nbsp;Or do we?&nbsp; Hear say, it's on the city managers report.]]>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? :      NOTE: I post the above...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;30&nbsp;2011 at 7:49pm<br /><br />NOTE:&nbsp; I post the above knowing that SupportMiddletown will accuse me of spreading "hearsay" and unfounded "accusations" and will call it a "conspiracy theory" (apparently&nbsp;involving me, the Middletown Police Department, WCPO, Scripps Media, and the MCSD) all just to try to keep downtown down and to try to make City Hall look bad.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? :     ground swat wrote:28 computers...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;30&nbsp;2011 at 7:39pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ground swat" alt="Originally posted by ground swat" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ground swat wrote:</strong><br /><br />28 computers stolen from the school system?&nbsp;&nbsp;Hopefully from the dumpster!</td></tr></table><font size="2">One small update, Groundswat.&nbsp; It wasn't 28 computers, it was <strong><em>FOUR HUNDRED!!!</em></strong> and they were the more expensive Mac-book Pros&nbsp;(worth about $1,500 a copy)!!!</font><div>&nbsp;</div><div><p>Posted: 11/30/2011<br>Last Updated: 1 hour and 6 minutes  ago<br></p><ul><li> <img src="http://media2.wcpo.com//photo/2010/03/14/silverman_20100314170310_60_45.JPG" height="45" width="45" border="0" alt="By:%20Deb%20Silverman" /> By: Deb Silverman</li></ul><div><div><p>MIDDLETOWN, Ohio - A Miamisburg, Ohio man who worked as a computer technician  for the Middletown School District is accused of stealing $600,000 worth of  computers over several years. <br> <br>Middletown police say Larry Osborne Jr.,  26, who was employed by the Butler County Educational Service Center, also  worked as an IT sub-contractor for the school district. He is accused of  stealing about 400 computers over a four-year period. <br> <br>When a teacher or  other school employee filed a report about a computer, Osborne would not fix the  device. Instead, according to police, he would steal the computer and/or replace  it with a different one. <br> <br>Investigators say he started selling the  computers, which were mostly Apple MacBooks, on eBay and eventually built a  relationship with a man in Pennsylvania who purchased about 350 computers from  Osborne in order to refurbish and resell the devices. Police say that man in  Pennsylvania had no idea the computers were stolen and is not facing any  charges. <br> <br>Police say 30 of the computers have been recovered from  Pennsylvania and returned to the schools. Police do not expect to recover the  remaining computers. <br> <br>Osborne is charged with grand theft. He is out on  bond while a grand jury reviews the case.</p><div><p id="copyrightStoryModule">Copyright 2011 Scripps Media,  Inc</p></div></div></div><br><br>Read more: <a href="http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/regi&#111;n_north_cincinnati/middletown/police%3A-it-worker-stole-400-school-computers#ixzz1fEqdPqJx" target="_blank"><u>http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_north_cincinnati/middletown/police%3A-it-worker-stole-400-school-computers#ixzz1fEqdPqJx</u></a></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=797">ground swat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;30&nbsp;2011 at 7:05pm<br /><br />28 computers stolen from the school system?&nbsp;&nbsp;Hopefully from the dumpster!]]>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? :   Acclaro,You make some great...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=575">Chris Fiora</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2011 at 3:39pm<br /><br />Acclaro,<div></div>You make some great points.&nbsp; Keep in mind though, regarding Cinci State, maybe locations suitable for 18 to 35 year old students are not suitable for 12 to 13 year old students.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>However we're getting the "cart before the horse".&nbsp; The purpose of updating the master plan is NOT to justify new buildings it is to explore and determine the "best" long range facility plan for the district.&nbsp; The conclusion may be to tear them all down and start over or it may be to simply maintain what we have.&nbsp; Hopefully the process will yield the proper course of action.&nbsp; One that all can support.</div>]]>
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   <title>Facilities Evaluation-How much? : Mr. Fiora, please feel free to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4252<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2011 at 3:05pm<br /><br />Mr. Fiora, please feel free to send a private email anytime, I;d be pleased to help in areas you may deem of benefit. Having 7 generations of educators in my family, including several in higher education, I am not anti-education assuredly.<br><br>Agreed, Vail has small land mass, and is in a dismal area. However, I would not be selling a potential new school on this point, nor students like the smell of the "new car leather" than the old. That will not fly. Just as the adage "sometimes you have to spend money to make money" did not on the Franklin batter. Economics are understood. <br><br>Centralization with reduction of busing/ logistic costs, and consolidation through economics of scale may be helpful. But, safety downtown is severely made weaker when considering the presence of Cincinnati State was not made a concern on locale. If that be true, the University of Cincinnati should move out of Clifton, or IU out of Bloomington, simply on statistical data.<br><br>Consolidation may actually exacerbate the problem, by consolidation. More students under one roof, feithdoms, turf wars, West Side Story with the Jets. State funding if its MCSD's time to get "punched" helps, cannot be sole driver, even in Middletown. When cash is on line, its 60-40, unless numbers there to justify investment. At this stage, I think it is a very hard sell. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;]]>
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