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   <title>1950 Lustron Home :   ^ I totally agree with that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=250">viper771</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;08&nbsp;2012 at 5:39am<br /><br />^ I totally agree with that comment.]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home : Mike, you really are too much....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=477">SupportMiddletown</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;07&nbsp;2012 at 8:06pm<br /><br />Mike, you really are too much.]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home : What would truly be &amp;#034;historic&amp;#034;...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;05&nbsp;2012 at 2:50pm<br /><br />What would truly be "historic" would be someone to come along and articulate a "vision" or a "Master Plan" and ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE TASK!!! There would be a few square feet of "historic" turf to preserve<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;TonyB<br /><br />Tony, IMO there won't be any "someones's" to come along to articulate a vision/Master Plan (except what the MMF guidelines will allow the council/econ. dev. leaders to agree to), much less be able to accomplish it. The city has a reputation of shooting down any and all plans (haven't been many I don't think) to downtown development (or any section of the city for that matter). Kohler, Gilleland and the powers that be see to it that if it doesn't fit their "vision" for the city, they won't allow it to happen. Just wondering how many businesses have attempted to land here and were driven off because of all the business unfriendly attitudes/roadblocks encountered and left in disgust???? The city plays a part in econ. development alright. They are the firewall on the computer. The virus slowing everything down as to progress. They block all ideas that don't conform to what they want the town to become. JMO<br /><br />Good question......what will become of the $75,000 loaned to the MMF to be used as collateral for them to obtain a loan? It is the taxpayer's money and should be returned by Cohen and company after the loan is approved. Now, what will really happen to the money?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home : Mr. P,I would tell you that this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;05&nbsp;2012 at 1:25pm<br /><br />Mr. P,<br><br>I would tell you that this "historic" argument isn't really about what should be saved but how to about it. On that point, I agree with you. The city can certainly play a roll in development but that's usually more in the form of infrastructure and regulation. The simple truth is there has to this point been little private investment in the "downtown" development. There have been a number of public projects in the area and certainly there has been some investment but with very little assumed risk by private investors. <br><br>What would truly be "historic" would be someone to come along and articulate a "vision" or a "Master Plan" and ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE TASK!!! There would be a few square feet of "historic" turf to preserve!!!<br>]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home :     That&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s right, Vet!!! That...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;05&nbsp;2012 at 8:09am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">That’s right, Vet!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>That would be artistic AND historic!!!<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Remember, junk auto parts received the coveted <strong><em>“Certificateof Historic Appropriateness”</em></strong> from those sticklers for HISTORIC accuracy, thevaunted (and highly unconstitutional)<strong><em>&nbsp;HISTORIC Commission!!!</em></strong> <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home : Mike....  You mentioned the car...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;05&nbsp;2012 at 6:37am<br /><br />Mike....<br /><br />You mentioned the car hoods. Don't drive down around Central and Broad much. No need to. Nothing there to go for. However, I really would have liked to have seen those controversial multi-colored car hoods on the side of the PAC. So "artsy" and innovative in idea. Would have livened up the area a bit with a splash of color and vibrance as one sipped on a wine cooler, ate their dainty finger food and gazed fondly on the area, invisioning the activity that is to come in the future as promised by our city leaders. Disappointed that they were not put up for all the world to see.  Perhaps we shall see some car hoods above the marquee of the rejuvenated Sorg Opera House in the future or above the Manchester Inn entrance once the MMF sponsored folks put these HISTORIC structures back to their original splender. How about some car hoods lining the plaza as one walks past the Manchester to the city building? Perhaps an artist could take some of the "to be torn down" Riverside Village trailers, paint 'em up real spiffy and put a hunk of 'em down there for ambiance. That's artistic, right?  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home :      SupportMiddletown: Don&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;05&nbsp;2012 at 12:44am<br /><br />SupportMiddletown:&nbsp; Don't be discouraged!!!&nbsp; Your definition includes <em><strong>YOU!!!</strong></em><div>&nbsp;</div><div>For being associated with the events that are keeping Middletown in its downward death&nbsp;spiral, I hereby declare YOU:</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><div><font size="2"><strong><font color="#ff0000"><u>HISTORIC</u></font></strong> SupportMiddletown!!!</font></div></blockquote><p dir="ltr"><font size="1">(Run right over to City Hall and grab yourself a handful of loot!) <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" /></font></p><div>Or, better yet, head over to&nbsp;HISTORIC Cohen Brothers, buy&nbsp;a few HISTORIC junk auto hoods, and add a few HISTORIC "architectural flourishes" to your&nbsp;HISTORIC&nbsp;house!!!</div>]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home :    SupportMiddletown wrote:^Yes,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;05&nbsp;2012 at 12:36am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by SupportMiddletown" alt="Originally posted by SupportMiddletown" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>SupportMiddletown wrote:</strong><br /><br />^Yes, Mike, that is exactly what I said.<div></div><div></div></td></tr></table><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Yes, SupportMiddletown, that <strong><em>IS exactly what you said!!!<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></em></strong></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">I asked:<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">“<strong>exactly</strong> what is so ‘<em><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;'>historic’</span></em>about ‘<strong><i><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-weight: normal; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;'>historic</span></i></strong><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"> </b>downtown Middletown’?”<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p></blockquote><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">You replied:<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">“^That comment has nothing todo with anything.”<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p></blockquote><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Which can only mean thatbeing <strong><em>EXACT</em></strong> is unnecessary, since <strong><em>YOU</em></strong> continued:<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">“I would tell you that thereare many reasons downtown Middletown is historic from events that occured thereto the architecture.”<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p></blockquote><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Those were <strong><em>YOUR exactwords</em></strong>.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>That <strong><em>IS</em></strong> <strong><em>exactly what YOU said!!!</em></strong> <o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">YOU said that “downtownMiddletown” was “historic” due to some “<strong><em>events</em></strong>” that occurred there, and “<strong><em>architecture</em></strong>”!!!<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Those were <strong><em><u>YOUR EXACTWORDS!!!<o:p></o:p></u></em></strong></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">You didn’t say thatWashington crossed the Miami from downtown Middletown to defeat the&nbsp;Hessians atTrenton, OH&nbsp;(he didn’t).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>You didn’t claimthat Kennedy was killed in Donham Plaza or that Lincoln was assassinated inSorg’s Theater (they weren’t)!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Youdidn’t claim that Frank Lloyd Wright’s famous home, Smelling (sewer) Water, was acondo in the CG&amp;E building (it isn’t).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>You simply said “events” and “architecture”!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Those were <strong><em>YOUR EXACT WORDS!!!</em></strong></p><div></div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal">So, we can only be left to infer that any person, place, or thing in Middletown--simply by virtue of their having been in Middletown and associated with "<strong>events</strong>" or "<strong>architecture</strong>"--are thereby:<strong><em>&nbsp; <font color="#ff0000" size="4">HISTORIC!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /></font></em></strong></span></font></font><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font></p>]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home : It seems that those who live and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=853">Stanky</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;04&nbsp;2012 at 10:04pm<br /><br />It seems that those who live and breath "historic" are those who already have had their day in the sun, already have made their money or connections or whatever from this town.  How about thinking about the FUTURE and what will get people, new people, actually building something out of this wreckage of a town?  Do you think a young family, young entrepreneur, or even a national business or chain hotel would look at downtown and give a hoot about how old (or faux historic) it is? ]]>
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   <title>1950 Lustron Home : ^Yes, Mike, that is exactly what...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=477">SupportMiddletown</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4307<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;04&nbsp;2012 at 8:54pm<br /><br />^Yes, Mike, that is exactly what I said.<DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>]]>
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