Middletown Forum : Firefighter Proposal http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Firefighter Proposal Tue, 06 Oct 2026 14:44:45 +0000 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:17:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4331 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Firefighter Proposal : I worked with Springfield Fire... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=33417&title=firefighter-proposal#33417 Author: jag123
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Posted: Jun 12 2012 at 1:17pm

I worked with Springfield Fire for a year or so and this is an apple to organge comparison. Springfield is fully staffed and has 2 fire stations with double companies. I like the idea but you can't compare the two.]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:17:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=33417&title=firefighter-proposal#33417 Firefighter Proposal : Today's Journal: MIDDLETOWN... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=33416&title=firefighter-proposal#33416 Author: Stanky
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Posted: Jun 12 2012 at 11:55am

Today's Journal:

MIDDLETOWN — The city’s fire administration may look about 50 miles north to determine if a significant amount of taxpayer dollars can be saved.

Fire Chief Steve Botts is interested in exploring Springfield’s fire department model, but he said he wants to wait on direction from city council or the city manager.

City Manager Judy Gilleland is out of the office, but it appears a majority of council wouldn’t object to at least exploring the option.

“What works for one city doesn’t always work for another, but we should be open to exploring the best possible alternatives while trying to continue the best possible service for a community,” said Councilwoman Anita Scott Jones.

Councilman Joe Mulligan would like another work session to discuss the topic before he would say if Botts should proceed in an in-depth comparison.

“It’s just so early in the process; I don’t want to say it’s good or bad. I just don’t know yet,” he said.

When comparing Middletown to similar fire district around the region — specifically looking at Hamilton, Springfield, Mansfield, Newark and Fairborn — Botts said the research brought the Springfield model to his attention.

“It’s something I would like to take a little bit more time to look at,” he told council last week.

The fire division’s budget — along with the police division’s — relies in large part on the city’s public safety levy, a 0.25 percent income tax which expires this year. It is on the August ballot.

On the line is nearly $3 million that supplements the combined $21 million budgets. The fire division’s budget is around $9 million.

“Everyone has to ready themselves for the possibility that it could be turned down,” Botts said.

Botts, according to his research, said it costs Middletown $924 per call in 2011, and with a reduced 2012 budget of about 9.5 percent, it’s projected that cost will drop about $88 per call this year.

The Springfield model will provide “significant” savings, Botts said, though exactly how much is not yet certain. He said his research indicates Springfield’s model is “best in class” when it comes to cost per call spending.

Springfield’s cost per call in 2011 was $784, Botts said.

Springfield completed in 2007 a long-term evaluation of its fire service, said Fire Chief Nick Heimlich.

“We essentially had divided services,” he said.

The fire department and the labor union worked on the changes, and Heimlich said the switch “has worked for us from the outset.”

Nine Springfield fire companies are staffed with a minimum of three firefighters, as opposed to two, and CREWS TAKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE VEHICLE TO A CALL AS OPPOSED TO BOTH AN AMUBULANCE AND A FIRE ENGINE....

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Gee, where have we heard of this great idea before? And why is Botts only now realizing there are better ways of running a department?
]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:55:52 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=33416&title=firefighter-proposal#33416 Firefighter Proposal : Normal 0 ... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=33376&title=firefighter-proposal#33376 Author: chu082011
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Posted: Jun 11 2012 at 5:16am

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]]> Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:16:10 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=33376&title=firefighter-proposal#33376 Firefighter Proposal : TonyB wrote:Pacman,Could not... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31667&title=firefighter-proposal#31667 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Jan 27 2012 at 11:34am

Originally posted by TonyB TonyB wrote:

Pacman,Could not agree with you more!!! They'll be no change in Middletown so long as the current council is dominated by the MMF crowd. They have their idea of what they want to do and they have the votes to continue doing it. Of course, once the current disaster over the CIC is brought to light (if it ever will be), perhaps the citizens of Middletown will wake up and see how little regard for the law our current council has. Since the local newspaper is intent on the policy of "good news only", it's going to take an outside media story to get any coverage of the mess that's been made.



TonyB/ All....

Perhaps a call to the Cincy/Dayton TV stations and sending researched info. from these pages to the AG (or whoever is responsible for the enforcement of CIC's/NFP's) in Columbus? ]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:34:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31667&title=firefighter-proposal#31667 Firefighter Proposal : Pacman,Could not agree with you... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31666&title=firefighter-proposal#31666 Author: TonyB
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Posted: Jan 27 2012 at 11:26am

Pacman,

Could not agree with you more!!! They'll be no change in Middletown so long as the current council is dominated by the MMF crowd. They have their idea of what they want to do and they have the votes to continue doing it. Of course, once the current disaster over the CIC is brought to light (if it ever will be), perhaps the citizens of Middletown will wake up and see how little regard for the law our current council has. Since the local newspaper is intent on the policy of "good news only", it's going to take an outside media story to get any coverage of the mess that's been made.
]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:26:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31666&title=firefighter-proposal#31666 Firefighter Proposal : LMAO,What give you the impression... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31665&title=firefighter-proposal#31665 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Jan 26 2012 at 9:30pm

LMAO,
 
What give you the impression that Mr. Laubaugh can effect change when most of the time he is on his own at Council or at the best has only one other council person voting along with him.

If you are going to effect change in council you need to stop voting in the Pickard, Mulligans, and the Morts.  Nothing will change as long as council has this make up.

Mr Laubaugh has been one of the most vocal people of council speaking in favor of the citizens. 

Current council mainly deals with the poverty stricken of Middletown or the upper end crown such as Main St.  They have no time for the middle class citizen in Middletown. 

PacmanCool
]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:30:42 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31665&title=firefighter-proposal#31665 Firefighter Proposal : http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31664&title=firefighter-proposal#31664 Author: Wots
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Posted: Jan 26 2012 at 8:54pm

]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:54:45 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31664&title=firefighter-proposal#31664 Firefighter Proposal : I never realized that you could... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31640&title=firefighter-proposal#31640 Author: TonyB
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Posted: Jan 24 2012 at 2:40pm

I never realized that you could vote AGAINST someone!!! I always thought when candidates were involved, you voted FOR someone. I guess the Board of Elections forgot to put "NONE OF THE ABOVE" on the ballots!!! That would truly be a "radical" idea!!! ]]> Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:40:55 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31640&title=firefighter-proposal#31640 Firefighter Proposal : lrisner wrote:Hey Mike....Run... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31634&title=firefighter-proposal#31634 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Jan 24 2012 at 5:36am

Originally posted by lrisner lrisner wrote:


Hey Mike....Run for Office again so i can vote against you again.

Gee…I’m not surprised that you “voted against” me.  You’re usually wrong.

I did notice, however, that I got a lot more votes thanYOU!!! Big%20smile

]]> Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:36:18 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31634&title=firefighter-proposal#31634 Firefighter Proposal : Ignore the message....Geeeez.... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4331&PID=31633&title=firefighter-proposal#31633 Author: lrisner
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Posted: Jan 24 2012 at 1:11am

Ignore the message....Geeeez. Who TOLD you that where the revenue came from had an impact on the market value of labor or anything else? Did you here that on FOX News?   Duh....the only bearing , in reality, is how the Administrators deal with the revenue if and when a decline in recipients comes. It has NOTHING to do with the value of anything.Duh! Do you thing that the City calls the Salt suppliers and say "We gotta pay less for Salt since we depend on the Tax payer for revenue and that revenue is down"?

Hey Mike....Run for Office again so i can vote against you again.


Chill, a lot of this is just making a little fun out of a laughable SNAFU.

I grew up thinking Community Leaders were smart people. I now find most of them to be out right corrupt or at least stupid. It is a sad commentary about the average American today.
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