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   <title>Festival Cuts :   Vivian,You are right on with...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4349<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;31&nbsp;2012 at 8:45pm<br /><br />Vivian,<div><br>You are right on with your post.&nbsp; I have been through Middletown mor ethan a few times and I would be embarrased to bring another country to what they call the downtown area.&nbsp;&nbsp; One of the things good aboutn being blind now is that I can&nbsp;ride through not see any of it. <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /><br><br>Pacman<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Cool" /></div>]]>
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   <title>Festival Cuts : Stop the drug money! It&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=797">ground swat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4349<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;31&nbsp;2012 at 7:32pm<br /><br />Stop the drug money! It's hard to get off the crack ( Taxpayer money).]]>
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   <title>Festival Cuts : The last time I went to MiddFest...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4349<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;31&nbsp;2012 at 12:56pm<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The last time I went to MiddFest it was poorly attended, the buildings were cover in bird poop and the smell of the sewers downtown were ripe. Vendors complained that they were being overcharged for space and could not make any money.<BR>Several years ago a MiddFest worker told me they were ashamed to bring the visiting country into </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> because it looked so bad. He laughed and said that next year they were going to blindfold the visitors, bring them into town under the cloak of darkness or fly them into Hook Field so they couldn’t see the condition of the City. <BR>PLEEZE.....This has nothing to do with ROI…<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Festival Cuts : &#226;&#8364;&#339;It&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s a matter of necessity...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4349<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;31&nbsp;2012 at 6:40am<br /><br />“It’s a matter of necessity and priority,” said Middletown Mayor Larry Mulligan<br /><br />YEAH, AND LAWRENCE'S PRIORITY IS TO KEEP PLOWING MONEY INTO THE S. MAIN ST. AREA TO PROTECT HIS NEIGHBORHOOD VALUES AS THE REST OF THE TOWN CRUMBLES, NOT SOME INSIGNIFICANT FESTIVAL OR SOCIAL EVENT NOT SANCTIONED BY HIS BUDS IN THE MMF CLUB.<br /><br />MORE LAWRENCE ....... <br /><br />"but we have to focus on other things like a solid infrastructure and economic development on a limited budget"<br /><br />WHY START FOCUSING ON INFRASTRUCTURE NOW? HASN'T BEEN IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNCIL NOR PAST COUNCILS. DOUBT IF IT WILL BE IMPORTANT AFTER THE SEWERS COLLAPSE AND THE STREETS TURN TO GRAVEL.  <br /><br />OH, YOU MEAN THE EFFORT OF FOCUS ON THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE 1986 WHEN YOU STRIPPED THE FUNDING FROM THE ROADS AND HAVEN'T RE-DIRECTED THE MONEY BACK TO THIS FUND..... AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOCUS THAT HAS LOST WAY MORE JOBS THAN IT HAS CREATED SINCE THE 80'S, RIGHT LAR BABES?<br /><br />Mulligan said he can understand how festivals can be seen as an economic development tool but doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them<br /><br />OLE' LARRY, ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT......KINDA LIKE THE $450,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY SPENT ON THE FOUR SPECULATION BUILDINGS IN THE HOPE THAT CINN. STATE COULD USE ALL OF THEM. THE $75,000 TO MMF FOR THE SORG OPERA HOUSE FIASCO, PAC WITH THE $200,000+ GIVEN TO VERDIN TO START THE DAM THING, THE MANCHESTER, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED AS A CINN. STATE CULINARY SCHOOL, THE SWALLENS BUILDING, ORGINALLY SLATED FOR SENIOR CITIZEN LIVING/ACTIVITIES THAT ENDED UP A BUST AND WAS DEMOLISHED. HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN WASTED DOWN AT THE AK PAVILLION THAT SITS IDLE MOST OF THE TIME?....AND ON AND ON IT GOES. <br /><br />GOT PLENTY OF MONEY FOR THE CRAP LISTED ABOVE, BUT NOT FOR THE MASSES.  <br /><br />EVEN MORE LARRY.....<br /><br />“In terms of long term economic development and growing jobs, I don’t know that it’s there,” Mulligan said. “I think they are primarily a quality of life item.”<br /><br />ECON DEV/JOB GROWTH....HASN'T BEEN ON YOUR RADAR FOR DECADES. QUALITY OF LIFE?....FOR THE SELECTED FEW IN THIS TOWN. MOST RESIDENTS HAVE SEEN REDUCTIONS IN THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS AND DIRECTION YOU AND OTHERS HAVE TAKEN IN OPERATING THE CITY. <br /><br />GIMME A BREAK MULLIGAN. CUT THE CRAP. YOU WOULD HAVE MORE CREDIBILITY OF YOU JUST SAID NOTHING.  ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4349<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;31&nbsp;2012 at 5:32am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Excerpts:<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 3.75pt; line-height: normal;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>“In some cases, such as Middletown’s Middfest,city contributions have dropped to zero.”<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 3.75pt; line-height: normal;" dir="ltr"><span style='color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;'><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><strong><font color="#0000ff">But inMidFest’s case, have they really dropped to zero??? Or have the taxpayerscontinued to provide things such as police coverage (including overtime),utilities, and event set-up???<o:p></o:p></font></strong></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;'>“It’s a depressing story,” said Virginia Ritan, chairwomanof Middfest. “There aren’t many alternatives in our particular area. It’s atough time.”<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style='color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;'><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><strong><font color="#0000ff">Here’sa thought:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>FUNDRAISING EVENTS!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Just as with the Historic Society and othergroups around town, why do you think that there is no other source of fundingother than the TAXPAYERS???<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>If youreally think that yours is such a worthy cause, go out and do some FUNDRAISING!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Sure…dipping into the public trough is easier…butit is NOT the ONLY way.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Witness theWaynesville Sauerkraut Festival (arguably the most successful festival in thearea), which, according to The Journal article:<o:p></o:p></font></strong></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style='color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;'><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">“The Sauerkrautfestival, which fills the streets of Waynesville during a two-day weekend everyOctober does<font color="#ff0000"> <strong><em>not </em></strong></font>receive <font color="#ff0000"><em><strong>any</strong></em> </font>financial support from the village of Waynesville<font color="#ff0000"><em><strong>and pays for police overtime and electric use</strong></em>,</font> said Chamber head DawnSchroeder.”<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" dir="ltr"><span style='color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;'><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><strong><font color="#0000ff">Chargea fee for booth space.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Get corporatesponsors.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Have fundraisers during therest of the year.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Heck, raffle off hams,food baskets, gift certificates to local supermarkets and restaurants. Hire theKnights of Columbus to run a blackjack tent.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>If you really think that this event is worthwhile, find a way to make itpay its own way!!!<o:p></o:p></font></strong></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style='color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;'><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">“Mulligansaid he can understand how festivals can be seen as an economic developmenttool but doesn’t believe they necessarily make the <font color="#ff0000"><strong>return on investment </strong></font>necessaryto keep funding them.”<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p></blockquote><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style='color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;'><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Onone hand, it would be easy to say that Mulligan, a bank vice president, doesn’tunderstand the term <strong><font color="#ff0000">“return on investment” (ROI), </font></strong>given the lousy <font color="#ff0000"><strong>ROI</strong></font> we haverealized on the “investments” that have been made with Middletonians’ moneyunder his watch.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>But on the other hand,he certainly seems to understand the personal “return” he and his friends mayrealize on the “investment” of Middletown’s taxpayers’ “investments”, and theyare too numerous to mention.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>(Theyinclude the “period” fake gas lamppost lighting.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Can anyone document the “period” when therewere gas street lampposts on South Main Street—or any other street inMiddletown for that matter???<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I haveresearched over a thousand photographs of early Middletown and have found apicture of only <strong><font color="#ff0000">ONE</font></strong> single gas street lamppost, in front of the original Oglesby-Barnitz Bank building, and&nbsp;that gas light&nbsp;appeared to be <strong><em>PRIVATELY</em></strong>—not publicly--owned and operated!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>It’s too bad that ourhistory-loving citizens couldn’t learn a lesson from that history&nbsp;and provide their OWNfake gas lights in front of their properties, instead of mooching electricityoff the taxpayers.)<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">409</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4349<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 9:50pm<br /><br /><H1 =articleline><FONT size=1>From the MJ:</FONT></H1><H1 =articleline>Cities cut giving taxpayer money to festivals</H1><P =articleline><a href="http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/middletown-news/cities-cut-giving-taxpayer-m&#111;ney-to-festivals-1320992.html" target="_blank">http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/middletown-news/cities-cut-giving-taxpayer-money-to-festivals-1320992.html</A></P><DIV>Excerpts:</DIV><DIV>City contributions to festivals across Butler and Warren counties have been dramatically slashed since 2009. In some cases, such as Middletown’s Middfest, city contributions have dropped to zero.</DIV><DIV><P style="FONT-SIZE: 15px">“<FONT color=#0000ff>It’s a matter of necessity and priority</FONT>,” said Middletown Mayor Larry Mulligan. “I would love to fund these festivals because they do enhance the quality of life, <FONT color=#0000ff>but we have to focus on other things like a solid infrastructure and economic development on a limited budget</FONT>.”</P><DIV><P style="FONT-SIZE: 15px">Mulligan said he can understand how festivals can be seen as an economic development tool but doesn’t believe they necessarily make the <FONT color=#ff0000>return on investment </FONT>necessary to keep funding them.</P><DIV><P style="FONT-SIZE: 15px">“In terms of long term economic development and growing jobs, I don’t know that it’s there,” Mulligan said. “I think they are primarily a quality of life item.”</P><DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>]]>
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