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   <title>Here They Come! : NoLakota organization support?...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;16&nbsp;2012 at 10:02am<br /><br />NoLakota organization support? Yes.<br><br>The man whom wrote the blog about dumb wives voting for levies without any business acumen and husbands sticking $100.00 bills in purse? No.<br>]]>
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   <title>Here They Come! : Would this be the same kook is...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=483">Bill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;16&nbsp;2012 at 9:20am<br /><br />Would this be the same kook is just left the NoLakota group for his offensive, cowboy rantings?]]>
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   <title>Here They Come! : The School Board and its leadership...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;16&nbsp;2012 at 8:19am<br /><br />The School Board and its leadership have lost complete and all credibility. Of 5 options, not one was to simply upgrade buildings. It was either build one, upgrade another, or build two new ones. The firm wants to build, they make more money. How outrageous. And to use this as the argument:“<br><br><font color="#FF0000">"Buildings are important factors to attracting families to the community, increasing performance of students, reducing absenteeism,” said Stephen Wilczynski, executive director of Fanning Howey.<br><br><font color="#000000">If that is the case, as the elementary schools therefore failed, there is NO justification for this. I have been in contact and a Committee is being formed, to solicit the paid consultation of the man in West Chester that leads the charge against their school levies. He was on WLW 700 yesterday, and really takes a no prisoner attitude towards such waste, and is very well versed in defeating school levies. Bring it on BOE, this one is going to fail.&nbsp; &nbsp; </font><br><br><br></font><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Here They Come! : Now, wait a minute!!!!  Today&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;16&nbsp;2012 at 6:37am<br /><br />Now, wait a minute!!!!<br /><br />Today's Journal.....<br /><br />District seeks input on 5 construction options for high school, middle school<br />Architects present five plans to district’s facilities panel, public<br /><br />MIDDLETOWN — The turnout may have been small but the information gathered could prove to be a big help as Middletown City Schools updates its master plan for secondary schools.<br /><br />During two community forums Thursday, about 20 people provided input to the district’s facilities committee and architects with Celina-based Fanning Howey.<br /><br />Five options for Phase 2 Master Plan to renovate or construct new middle and high schools were presented; those in attendance voted on their most-favored choices.<br /><br />• Option 1: Cost $69 million to build a new high school and remodel the current high school for grades sixth through eighth.<br /><br />• Option 2: Cost $62 million to build a new middle school for grades sixth through eighth and renovate and expand the high school to add 60,000-square-feet.<br /><br />• Option 3: Cost $49 million to build a middle school for grades seventh and eighth, and renovate and expand the high school.<br /><br />• Option 4: Cost $54 million to build a new high school and a new middle school for grades seventh and eighth.<br /><br />• Option 5: Cost $55 million to build a school for grades seventh through ninth and renovate the high school.<br /><br />EVERY ONE OF THESE OPTIONS ARE TO BUILD NEW SCHOOLS. ISN'T  THERE AN OPTION TO RETAIN WHAT WE HAVE AND USE THE MONEY TO UPGRADE WHAT WE HAVE? THIS IS A "LOADED DICE" SCENARIO. NO MATTER WHAT DIRECTION THEY GO, SOME NEW SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE BUILT AT SOME LEVEL SOMEWHERE. THEY CAN'T CONVINCE ANYONE YET THAT THE NEW ELEMENTARIES HELPED THIS DISTRICT, MUCH LESS SUGGEST WE BUILD MORE. I KNEW THEY WERE HEADED THE NEW SCHOOL ROUTE BEFORE ANY OF THIS STARTED. <br /><br />74% PAID BY THE PEOPLE AND ONLY 26% PAID FOR BY THE STATE? NOT A VERY GOOD BREAKOUT, IS IT? BAD TIME TO BE ASKING ANYONE FOR MONEY FOLK. <br /><br />GOOD LUCK IN GETTING THIS PASSED IF IT GOES BEFORE THE VOTERS. ]]>
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   <title>Here They Come! : Smartman,I agree that the stage...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 1:56pm<br /><br />Smartman,<br><br>I agree that the stage at the current MHS is one of the best in the area. My suggestion was for the option to build a new HS bldg. If they stay at their current location, then what I proposed would be unnecessary.<br><br>]]>
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   <title>Here They Come! : Tony B, At this time I could not...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=131">Smartman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 11:48am<br /><br />Tony B, At this time I could not support phase 2 due to no auditorium. MHS has one of the best auditoriums in the GMC. It seats more, and the stage is nuch larger as is the set construction area. It serves no purpose to build a new HS and the bus students to another facility to rehearse. ]]>
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   <title>Here They Come! : Mike Presta - But won&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t land...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 11:24am<br /><br /><P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Mike Presta - But won’t land values be going way <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">UP</I></B>…now that we will be having a <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">SECOND </I></B></SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: red; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Community Improvement Corporation</SPAN></I></B></FONT></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"> competing for the properties??? <?: prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shape id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"><v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:ulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:ulas><v:path o:c&#111;nnect="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusi&#111;nok="f"></v:path><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shape></FONT></FONT><v:shape style="WIDTH: 12.75pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt" id=_x0000_i1025 ="#_x0000_t75" alt="LOL"><a href="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" target="_blank"></v:></v:shape><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT><v:shape style="WIDTH: 12.75pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt" id=_x0000_i1026 ="#_x0000_t75" alt="LOL"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"> <a href="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" target="_blank"></v:></FONT></FONT></v:shape><BR><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">(How many Community Improvement Corporations do they think we need???&nbsp; More importantly, how many do they think we can afford???)<BR><o:p></o:p><BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Mike, I just don’t know why you have to keep asking all these pesky questions when you know the City is doing it’s best to make Main Street and Their Downtown <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>thriving additions to our community….They need as many CIC’s as they can get to rid Middletown of THOSE OTHER people. They need to demo 3,000 houses in the 1st and 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Ward so it will have that nice artsy Bombed Out Look…yep that will reeally help the property values…..<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>Hmmm…If they demo 3,000 homes that are now paying property taxes how much money will be lost?...…OOOPS!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <title>Here They Come! : Mr. Shaffer,Sorry for butchering...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 10:14am<br /><br />Mr. Shaffer,<br><br>Sorry for butchering your name in the above post.<br><br>]]>
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   <title>Here They Come! : Mr. Schaeffer,I read the comment...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 10:10am<br /><br />Mr. Schaeffer,<br><br>I read the comment about a new auditorium/theater would have to be approved separate from the new school. If that is correct; may I propose a "radical" solution.<br><br>MMF currently have the contract to purchase the Sorg Opera House. Why not have MMF, the school board and the city renovate the Opera House, open a School for the Creative and Performing Arts, and concentrate building a top quality gymnasium in a new facility.<br><br>This would solve more than a few problems. The cost of renovating the Opera House to be used by the School District would open up the prospect of grant money to cover the cost of renovating. If I've read all the posts correctly (doubtful), that renovation cost would go towards the money the school district would count to reach the $40m "kickback" on capital improvements. It would leave the School Board the option of needing to design only an athletic facility and not an auditorium. It saves an historic, downtown building and provides for a unique education experience for Middletown students. It makes the city and the school district look like they are actually working together.<br><br>I'm sure there are some holes in this that I haven't thought of, considering that I just thought of it. It would seem a solution to a number of problems and provides for an opportunity to solve those problems with one decision. Sounds too simple. <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Here They Come! :     But won&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t land values...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4352<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 9:51am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">But won’t land values be going way <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">UP</i></b>…now that we will behaving a <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">SECOND <span style="color: red;">Community Improvement Corporation</span></i></b>competing for the properties??? <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></font></font></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">(How many Community Improvement Corporations do they think we need???&nbsp; More importantly, how many do they think we can afford???)<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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