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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site :    Marcia Andrew wrote:... First,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 7:40pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Marcia Andrew" alt="Originally posted by Marcia Andrew" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Marcia Andrew wrote:</strong><br /><br />... First, the Journal list is based on<strong><font color="#ff0000"> old data</font></strong>. For example, it lists Dennis Newell, the former high school principal (and it lists him as a teacher). Carmela Cotter has been the high school principal since last July.&nbsp; We hired a new Treasurer last August, whose salary is approximately $85,000.&nbsp; I don't know why the list does not include the prior treasurer, Lisa Fahnke. Her salary was in the same range....<div></td></tr></table><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Perhaps I can clear up some of the confusion regarding theway these salaries are reported, or at least how they have been reported in thepast.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>(I have not seen the actual listthis year.)<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">The list does not report “salaries”, but rather reports <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">compensation paid</b> to an individual overthe course of a calendar year, and lists that person’s title at the <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">end</b> of that calendar year.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">If butcher John Doe was hired at a salary of $70,000/year onJuly 1, he would make only $35,000 during the calendar year, so he would notshow up on the list.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">If baker Jane Doe had a salary of $70,000 per year, but resignedor was terminated on June 30 she would have made only $35,000 during thecalendar year, so he would not show up on the list.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">If candlestick-maker Richard Roe had a base salary of$40,000 per year worked so much overtime that he ended up earning $65,000, hewould be on the list as a “candlestick-maker” with a “salary” of $65,000.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">If Fred Foe started the year as a “master chef” with asalary of $120,000 per year, but was demoted on November 30 to “bus boy” at arate of $3,000 per month, he would be listed as “bus boy” with a salary of $113,000.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">I hope that this helps with the understanding of how the listis compiled and reported.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font></div>]]>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site : In 30 days a top consulting firm...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 5:26pm<br /><br />In 30 days a top consulting firm could come in, and wipe out 55% of the staff without one iota of negative impact on scores and rating. <br><br>NB, nope, you missed my pt. I acknowledged the willingness of Ms. Andrew and Mr. Fiora to have open debate only, and never gave praise to a lackluster academic performance nor bloated overhead. I did state also, it is obvious to most the changing demographics of Middletown made a comparison with performance in the 60's a little out of kilter with the performance today. The fact Monroe left Middletown is sufficient enough to see the school district has been lacking for many years.&nbsp; <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site : It doesn&amp;#039;t matter what they...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=791">jsmith2011</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 4:33pm<br /><br />It doesn't matter what they do all day......those salaries cannot be justified when you look at this school district.  Both the size of the school district and the performance.  Come on.....over a million dollars in salaries in the administration building alone.  This doesn't include principals, assistant principals and whatever other positions there are here and there.<br /><br />Plus, keep in mind that these amounts are only their salaries. It doesn't include the cost of the Iphone they all carry around, the Ipad that everyone has, the car mileage allowance, insurance and all the other perks.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site : Vet, what I&amp;#039;m saying is thatthe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=645">Neil Barille</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 3:40pm<br /><br />Vet, what I'm saying is that&nbsp;the job description you read will make the position sound very important and the duties varied, and you will not be satisfied with the description.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>acclaro, as I recall the Super was hired at $130k. Not sure where the other numbers you quoted are coming from.&nbsp; And I thought not long ago you were touting the good efforts of MCSD and its board?&nbsp; I'm guessing this Phase 2 has changed your tune?</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site : Ms. Andrew, there is simply no...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 3:23pm<br /><br />Ms. Andrew, there is simply no factual means to justify overhead, none. Isn't it also a fact Mr. Rasmussen started at a salary of under $110,000. and now is $147,000.? What on earth has he accomplished, other than a body, an FTE, put in a position with a title, the same as the treasurer under investigation from Monroe, just another FTE. You could wipe out 35-40% of administrators, and not tell a difference in performance. I do know the system and Ohio, as I am good friends with Kim Gray, who was super at Franklin now in a Cincinnati system. This constant excuse and blame game of fed or state is really getting old.&nbsp; &nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site :   Neil Barille wrote:Vet, do...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 3:02pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Neil Barille" alt="Originally posted by Neil Barille" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Neil Barille wrote:</strong><br /><br />Vet, do you really think the answers will satisfy you?  I'm guessing a detailed response about each position will be filled with details none of us are familiar with.  I'm sure what you hear would be that they do a lot of state and federal mandated reporting, assessments of this and that, measurables, metrics, budgetary issues, etc etc.  These answers could be snow jobs or do be very accurate.  I think it is likely these positions are needed and important, but what do I know. </td></tr></table> <br /><br />Neil, these are taxpayer provided positions in a public setting. They are obligated to communicate with those who pay the bills and who subsidize this. I think the public has a right to know what their money is buying as to activity on each job created if we are paying for the ride. Have you ever seen the school supply a job description to the public? How about info. on the position activity? Aren't you the least bit curious about what these positions entail on a daily basis? Don't you think they have an obligation to provide more information than to just create some abstract job, dissolve others, without some sort of detailed explanation as to their activities? Giving notice of a new position created and the salary that goes with it is not enough. What does it hurt to request some information? We don't get enough of it as it is. If you don't know what the job is, how can you make the statement that "I think it is likely these positions are needed and important" (kinda gullible, right?).......or, Neil.....maybe not. ]]>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site : Vet, do you really think the answers...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=645">Neil Barille</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 2:09pm<br /><br />Vet, do you really think the answers will satisfy you?&nbsp; I'm guessing a detailed response about each position will be filled with details none of us are familiar with.&nbsp; I'm sure what you hear would be that they do a lot of state and federal mandated reporting, assessments of this and that, measurables, metrics, budgetary issues, etc etc.&nbsp; These answers could be snow jobs or do be very accurate.&nbsp; I think it is likely these positions are needed and important, but what do I know.&nbsp; ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site :   Isn&amp;#039;t the Director of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1018">chmoore1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 1:40pm<br /><br />Isn't the Director of Operations being granted a two-year contract at tonight's meeting, according to the online&nbsp;Board Agenda?&nbsp; At what salary?&nbsp;&nbsp; chmoore<div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Facilities link on MCSD web site : &amp;#034;We have trimmed the ranks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 1:08pm<br /><br />"We have trimmed the ranks of administrative staff and everyone is doing more.  I invite you to learn more about the work of the central office so that you can understand why the work they do is essential to the operation and success of the school district". <br /><br />Marcia Andrew<br /><br />Just out of curiosity, Ms. Andrew, I would like to know what a typical days schedule looks like for the Director of Instructional Leadership and the Senior Director of Learning. What would they do in a typical week that would justify their positions and salary? How do they fill their time? IMO, the positions by title allude to being relatively the same or at least in the ballpark of similar duties. Perhaps having jobs with similar titles confuses those not familiar with the hierarchy. When they were positions, what did the Director of Technology, the Assistant Superintendent and Director of Communications do for a full week? How did they justify their salaries and fill their time? On the surface, to the taxpaying layman, these jobs really look like part time positions with hefty salaries and alot of "walking around checking on things" with an occasional meeting to go to. That's the perception. Perhaps an activity explanation to the public concerning each position and why it is necessary is in order here. Might clear the air about wasteful position creations on the part of the schools. The thinking with the general public is that there is inner circle cronyism and exaggerated position creation occuring both in the schools and in city government. Perhaps if you would offer an explanation as to why the position was needed along with the announcement of the position, it might end the mistrust the public has with your schools. <br /><br />Now for the truth. Have you cut positions but added more in other areas not announced or have you cut positions and not replaced at all? Seems to be a bit of confusion. <br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4382<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 10:56am<br /><br />I am at work right now and do not have time for a lengthy response. However, there are a lot of inaccurate statements being made about the salary list and admin employees.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>First, the Journal list is based on old data. For example, it lists Dennis Newell, the former high school principal (and it lists him as a teacher). Carmela Cotter has been the high school principal since last July.&nbsp; We hired a new Treasurer last August, whose salary is approximately $85,000.&nbsp; I don't know why the list does not include the prior treasurer, Lisa Fahnke. Her salary was in the same range.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Yes, the school districts's budget and complying with state and federal regulations IS so complex that an assistant treasurer is needed.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The district used to have an Assistant Superintendent, who had responsibility over learning/curriculum, and she ran a department that included other staff--including curriculum coordinators, grant specialists. You can't run a public school district without people performing these functions. I see you do not like it, but it is the truth. When the Asst Superintendent retired, the district hired the current Senior Director of Learning to run that department, but at a lower salary than an Asst Superintendent would have made. The department she supervises already existed, it did not grow from 0 to 9 in 4 years. We actually eliminated at least one curriculum coordinator position.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Similarly, Dr. Ison was hired with the new title of Director of Instructional Leadership.&nbsp; That title did not exist, but the department he supervises did, but it was called Student Services and was led by Susan Combs, the Director of Student Services. Dr. Ison makes less than Susan Combs did.&nbsp; At the same time, the Director of Technology and Director of Communications positions were eliminated. All of the functions of the various departments in the admin building were restructured under 2 fewer departments/directors.&nbsp; I explained this all on this board last year when the cuts were made and the departments were restructured, and I know all of you who just posted, posted then, but I guess its easier to just keep repeating misinformation.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>All of the psychologists employed by the district are trained psychologists, not teachers.&nbsp; They are required to administer a district that has almost 20% students identified as special needs, on federally mandated Individual Education Plans. This is over 1300 students who require IQ/cognitive and other testing that is performed by psychologists. Not to mention severed emotional challenges that many of our students struggle with. Unlike a private school, it is not an option to send them elsewhere because there needs are so great.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>We have trimmed the ranks of administrative staff and everyone is doing more.&nbsp; I invite you to learn more about the work of the central office so that you can understand why the work they do is essential to the operation and success of the school district.</DIV>]]>
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