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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : Stanky - Why does the city want...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;24&nbsp;2012 at 4:17am<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN =msgsidepro1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">Stanky</SPAN><strong><FONT size=3> - </FONT></strong></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN =msgsidepro1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Why does the city want to tear down the </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Temple</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> building? A parking lot? seriously?<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Stanky<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>The Temple Art Group came before City Council to request the </SPAN><st1:place><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Temple</SPAN></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"> </SPAN><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Building</SPAN></st1:place></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"> be donated to their group. It was the same action that the Middletown Historical Society did last year when they request the </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Bank</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"> </SPAN><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">One</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"> </SPAN><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Building</SPAN></st1:place></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"> be donated to their group.<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>None of the buildings that the city has purchased will be torn down anytime soon because they want to be part of Main Street USA. <BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>CHAPS was at the meeting to support the City’s investment in restoration of all the old downtown building. Didn’t you notice Mr. Mulligan smiling as they stood up and spoke to save all of the old building on </SPAN><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Main Street</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">. Just another dog and pony show for the public.<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : Steve Dillman&amp;#039;s store ran...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 5:26pm<br /><br />Steve Dillman's store ran out of room for the semi's so the city wants to use the space after the Temple is torn down. Also, it competes with PAC, so that's the second justification.]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : Why does the city want to tear...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=853">Stanky</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 3:23pm<br /><br />Why does the city want to tear down the Temple building?  A parking lot?  seriously?  ]]>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : When the high end apartments known...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 12:50pm<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">When the high end apartments known as </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Trinity Place</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> were built they had to put some Section 8 there in order to fill the complex...I believe the same will happen with these apartments.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : If you read the workbook Mr. Presta...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 10:30am<br /><br />If you read the workbook Mr. Presta kindly provided the link, it said with specificity, the intent was to build apartments for "high income earners." But, it won't be high income earners, which was the motto of Joe Mulligan during the election what Middletown needs, it will be more section 8, they just will put them close to Walmart so they can walk over, use their food stamp debit card, and then give plasma for $50. at Bioscience. That is the 'new' Middletown of the past 20 years.]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : Did you check out the workbooks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 10:25am<br /><br />Did you check out the workbooks from the past concerning this parcel of land? There are letters signed by the folks living around the proposed site of these apartments that were opposed to building the complex on a past proposal. Seems they were concerned about the place becoming low income and voiced concern for what usually transpires with Section 8---IE- more crime, lower property values, image, etc. Looks like they will not be listened to by council as per standard operating procedure of citizen exclusion. <br /><br />I agree Vivian....looks like another opportunity for a builder (friend of city hall?) to construct some low income apartments down around Wal-Mart so that the city can up the count and do some more "city trashing".  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> I can understand the majority of council approving crap like this. They are the nimrods who continue to wreck the city. What I don't understand is Mr. Laubach and Ms. Scott-Jones going along with all of this. Thought they might offer us some hope. But then again, maybe not. Sad to see.]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : I can&amp;#039;t get over AJ&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=483">Bill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 10:23am<br /><br /><P>I can't get over AJ's silly bluetooth hanging from his ear.&nbsp; How ridiculous.&nbsp; </P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : ground swat The approval of this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 9:28am<br /><br /><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">ground swat<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>The approval of this property for 216 new apartment units was an insult to any thinking resident of </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">. Mr. Kohler nor Mr. Cristo could tell us how many 1 bedroom, 2 bedroom or 3 bedroom units were going to be built in this complex. They also didn’t know the cost per square foot of these rentals. Do you really believe the answers or should I say non answers to these questions? <BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>Do you really believe that if they can only rent 150 of these units that they will not rent the other 66 units as Section 8 at 110%? Did you hear Mr. Mulligan say that they have NO control over who these apartments are rented to?<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>Yep this is the new reduction Section 8 Plan for the City of </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">…dump them on </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Warren</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"> </SPAN><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">County</SPAN></st1:PlaceName></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">.<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></SPAN>]]>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting : Did not get a chance to see meeting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=797">ground swat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 7:26am<br /><br />Did not get a chance to see meeting yet but did see 5min of Cristo talking as if he had marbles in his mouth. Were those answers he was giving that council seemed happy with??]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>02/21/2012 council meeting :     Quite ironic, isn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4394<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 6:53am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Quite ironic, isn’t it???<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Both Annie and Mayor Muggsie will soon bevoting to move the discussion of the people’s business upstairs and <strong><em>AWAY</em></strong> FROMthe view of any cameras.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>But you can betyour sweet bippy that they will be calling for every media camera around tocover any ribbon-cutting or dedication ceremonies.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">That kind of shows you where their hearts are—and they are <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">NOT</i></b>on the side of the people!!! <o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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