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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :     Observer,  That doesn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;28&nbsp;2012 at 8:03pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Observer,<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">That doesn’t change the fact that Mr. Wyrick held the officeof interim Clerk for only a few weeks, while Ms. Swaim was Clerk (and sat onthe money) for nearly a year before she turned the money over at a politicallyopportune time.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections : Mike,  Thanks for the response....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=514">Observer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;28&nbsp;2012 at 9:29am<br /><br />Mike,<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks for the response.&nbsp; The Cash for Clunkers explanation doesn't make sense to me.&nbsp; That program ran from July of 2009 through late August 2009.&nbsp; It's very hard to believe that funds were just coming through in late 2011, that's almost 2 years!&nbsp; It's the gov't so i guess it could be possible.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I guess for me it's hard for Jeff to have it both ways.&nbsp; He wants credit for the money turned over to the county that he didn't turn over.&nbsp; If the practice was to turn it over monthly then how was there in excess of $700,000 in the account when Mrs. Swain took over?&nbsp; From reading about&nbsp;Jeff he was Cindy's chief deputy for several years.&nbsp;&nbsp;If it was the practice of Cindy to turn the money over annually then why is Jeff banging on Mary for doing the exact same thing Cindy did and turn it over annually?&nbsp; From a budgeting perspective it seems to make perfect sense to do it annually as opposed to monthly&nbsp;in the event that the office has a money crunch and needs funds toward the end of the year.</DIV><DIV><BR>I don't doubt your sincerity Mike it just seems to me Mrs. Swain has a legitimate point on the funds she turned&nbsp;over and&nbsp;Jeff seems like a decent enough guy and should focus more on the qualifications he has for the job.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :  Agreed on both points Bo, and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;28&nbsp;2012 at 8:59am<br /><br />Agreed on both points Bo, and well stated. Please vote Tuesday, or before. Santorum will not win nomination, he's slipping as he has had his day in the sun. The debate is catching up with him.<br><br><img src="uploads/334/romney_logo_believe.png" height="56" width="157" border="0" /><br><br><br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=313">Bocephus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;28&nbsp;2012 at 7:53am<br /><br />It makes me nuts to watch the news and see that men such as Santorum or Newt are even still in the race (thanks religious right) Mitt in my mind is the only one that could defeat Obama.But it looks like that Santorum may be the nominee and he stands about as much chance as Mclame and Sarah Palin did in 2008.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>I have this silly notion that Mitts religion is whats keeping the religious right from supporting Mitt Romney.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I think I would just stay home from the poles if Rick Santorum is the Republican candidate or else just write in Mickey Mouse on that section of the ballot.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Mitt Romney is the best and possibly only hope we have of ending Obamas reign.</div>]]>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :   Hey Vet...And the Dems have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;27&nbsp;2012 at 9:18pm<br /><br />Hey Vet...<div><br>And the Dems have done such a good job for the last three years<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :     Observer wrote:Mike,  I&amp;#039;ve...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;27&nbsp;2012 at 5:17pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Observer" alt="Originally posted by Observer" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Observer wrote:</strong><br /><br />Mike,<div>&nbsp;</div><div>I've been watching this race for awhile.&nbsp; My question regarding Jeff's claim about the $1M dollars would be that if the money was there before Mary took office why didn't he or his predicesor return it when they had the chance in previous years?&nbsp; I do enjoy his bio&nbsp;particularly the part where he describes himself as being treated as a "rock star" at Association meetings.&nbsp; </div></td></tr></table><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Observer,<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">If I understand the mechanics of it correctly (and I amunsure that I do), it had always been the policy under previous Clerks of Courtto transfer surpluses to the General Fund once a year at the end of the fiscalyear. The small surpluses in previous years made this a non-issue until anincrease in fees and the “cash for clunkers” program caused surpluses to grow.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">When former Clerk of Courts Cindy Carpenter became a CountyCommissioner, Jeff Wyrick (who had been working in the Clerk of Courts officefor ten years) was appointed <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">interim</i></b> Clerk of Court but served inthat office for <strong><font color="#ff0000">only a few weeks</font></strong>.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>He waspreparing to return the surplus funds on a monthly basis when the CentralCommittee met to appoint a Clerk to serve until the next election.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Mr. Wyrick lost by only a few votes to MarySwaim (his opponent in the upcoming primary election). <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><strong><em>Ms. Swaim, chose NOT to turn over the surplusfunds</em></strong> but instead sat on the surplus until she felt she could make a politicalpoint out of it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;'>That is my understanding.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>You can read the “full story” here: <a href="http://jeffwyrick.org/?page_id=563" target="_blank">http://jeffwyrick.org/?page_id=563</a></span>]]>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :   acclaro wrote: Fair enough...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;27&nbsp;2012 at 3:57pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by acclaro" alt="Originally posted by acclaro" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>acclaro wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />Fair enough questions Vet.Try again:1) Romney strongest on border control and illegal immigration. The Dream Act need not apply under Mitt, unlike Obama. I thought you left Az because of lowered wages from immigration of Latinos's?2) Iran- crippling sanctions, and direct hit if required. No nuke under Mitt's stewardship.3) Gas. Mitt's policy is clear; disallow the Chinese manipulation of their currency driving our $ downward in a spiral, and setting high export taxes on crude we export to foreign powers. The US has a huge crude surplus presently, that is being exported to Europe today. Mild winter translates to overcapacity in oil reserves, but export tariff tax will penalize Exxon, Chevron, Shell, etc, from exporting to highest bidder. Keeping crude barrels in US drives gas prices down, raising currency provides greater buying power of crude imported. Thirdly, Mitt is for fracking, and opening all federal land for drilling. Offshore ocean exploration and drilling will be lifted. And, nuclear power plants will be built, and additional REFINERIES. Obama's Plan? Everyone drop $40,000 for a Toyota Prius or a Chevy Volt, which gives 100 miles on a charge.    <img src="uploads/334/mitt.jpg" height="249" width="202" border="0" />  ,   <br /><br /><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />I like the idea that Romney is strong at the border. You are correct. We did leave Tucson due to the poor job selections, low wages and no benefits scenario. Agree with his stance on illegals. Don't want 'em here either. <br /><br />Sanctions for Iran? Ok, might work but will it bring them to their knees and shut them down on the rhetoric and the Gulf of Hormuz (sp?) blockade talk? Dunno. I've about had it with the Syrians, Iraquis, Iranians and the Afghans (on the book burning incident). To hell with the Afghans. If this is the way we're treated after driving the Taliban out (at least until we leave for good, then they'll be back), I say pull all US people/troops out and low level nuke 'em. Exteme, perhaps. Send a message- you betcha. Not gonna take anymore of the world's crap anymore.<br /><br />Don't know how Romney will accomplish the Chinese manipulation of currency thing. If we have a surplus in gas, why do we have gouging going on at the pump? Isn't it common knowledge that if supplies are plentiful, prices favor the consumer? Apparently, not in this case. The oil companies just keep socking it to "we, the people" and no one is there to speak for us......ever. Tax the oil companies? Hell, they'll just pass it on to us. Nowhere to go in a monopoly driven industry. ]]>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :  Fair enough questions Vet.Try...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;27&nbsp;2012 at 3:26pm<br /><br />Fair enough questions Vet.<br><br>Try again:<br><br>1) Romney strongest on border control and illegal immigration. The Dream Act need not apply under Mitt, unlike Obama. I thought you left Az because of lowered wages from immigration of Latinos's?<br><br>2) Iran- crippling sanctions, and direct hit if required. No nuke under Mitt's stewardship.<br><br>3) Gas. Mitt's policy is clear; disallow the Chinese manipulation of their currency driving our $ downward in a spiral, and setting high export taxes on crude we export to foreign powers. The US has a huge crude surplus presently, that is being exported to Europe today. Mild winter translates to overcapacity in oil reserves, but export tariff tax will penalize Exxon, Chevron, Shell, etc, from exporting to highest bidder. Keeping crude barrels in US drives gas prices down, raising currency provides greater buying power of crude imported. Thirdly, Mitt is for fracking, and opening all federal land for drilling. Offshore ocean exploration and drilling will be lifted. And, nuclear power plants will be built, and additional REFINERIES. <br><br>Obama's Plan? Everyone drop $40,000 for a Toyota Prius or a Chevy Volt, which gives 100 miles on a charge.&nbsp; &nbsp; <br><br><img src="uploads/334/mitt.jpg" height="249" width="202" border="0" />&nbsp; , &nbsp; <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :  Virtually all GOP members running...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;27&nbsp;2012 at 3:04pm<br /><br />Virtually all GOP members running unopposed, its time for a change in Butler Cty, including judges, treasurer, commission, across the board.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>March 6 Primary elections :   acclaro wrote:Vet, then lets...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4410<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;27&nbsp;2012 at 3:04pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by acclaro" alt="Originally posted by acclaro" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>acclaro wrote:</strong><br /><br />Vet, then lets deploy the KISS (keep it simple principle):Do you prefer capitalism over socialism; I prefer capitalism.Do you prefer we go bankrupt or reign in our debt? I prefer fiscal soundness.Do you prefer $8.00/gal gas while you drive to WPAFB or $2.50/gal? I prefer $2.50.Do you prefer a country not hit by a nuclear bomb given to LAMEA terrorists coming in as a dirty bomb, or a non attack? I prefer the latter.A simple choice. A clear vision. Mitt Romney.<br /><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Again, I'll ask the question I asked before. How much of what is stated in 409's Best State/Worst State link was under Romney's administration?<br /><br />To address your response....<br /><br /><br />I prefer capitalism (handled correctly). Socialism with emphasis on minority priority is what we are getting from Obama. Too many dam handouts to minorities while shafting the majority. Don't care for that as I watch the majority rights eroding to benefit select segments of society under the "give away the house" Democrats.  <br /><br />Obviously reigning in the debt is preferred (for the country as well as individual households). The ONLY logical choice here. <br /><br />$8.00 per gallon as opposed to $2.50/gallon? How is Romney going to do that for us consumers, unless he regulates the oil and gas industry, starts drilling in off limits areas of the country and convinces the oil companies to build more refineries at a faster clip? How do you control an industry that gouges the consumer without hourly notices at the pump?<br /><br />Dirty bomb....terrorists......<br /><br />Think Romney has any better plan to protect the country than anyone else? Haven't heard his ideas on this as yet. Does he have any experience in this arena? How about any military/war experience? What about his foreign policies? Will he keep going from war to war as has been the foreign policies of Bush and Obama- IE. Iraq to Afghanistan, possibly Syria and Iran upcoming?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Not familiar with his beliefs.<br /><br />It won't be as clear nor as simple for me until I hear more than what I hear each night in the news (local and national editions)from this guy. I hear him pounding on Santorum (or Gingrich when Newt had the lead early on) on a repetitive basis moreso than hearing him lay out his policies and what he would like to do as President. His approach seems vague as to his gameplan to this point. JMO]]>
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