Middletown Forum : Property registration proposal

Property registration proposal : more hopeful than bitter nowthe...

Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:56:47 +0000

Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 4562
Posted: Nov 14 2017 at 4:56pm

more hopeful than bitter now
the "sell-off/shut down" process was painful and I let it show back then

That feeling went away
I will work towards our future and am willing to contribute many ways

Admin/Council??
Hopefully getting it right to make one united town working forward in every corner--but still has to show me(and probably many others still left here)

no rant

Property registration proposal : Spider John -Your timely post...

Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:53:04 +0000

Author: Analytical
Subject: 4562
Posted: Nov 14 2017 at 3:53pm

Spider John -

Your timely post of 5/27/2012 sadly rings true 5.5 years later. During this time, owner-occupied dwelling units

declined, population declined, renter-occupied dwelling units increased, residential property demolitions

mushroomed, "downtown" redevelopment deals expanded because of virtual give-away's of city-owned real

estate/tax abatements/direct financial subsidies plus an increased number/percentage of poverty level

income households. One important remaining question is: what will Middletown look like five years from

now in 2022 or ten years from now in 2017?

spiderjohn wrote:

thanx 4 the insight, mr.goose

hope that u don't get cooked

Informative and thought-provoking.

40% rentals in a town of this size is incredible.

Even more incredible is the metamorphosis that brought us to those figures.

I have lived here for my entire life--went through the public school system k-12,

and have been in business locally throughout.

I can't accept the concept that our own local govt. has long-term led us into this situation

simply to pad their pockets, their cronies' pockets, and to provide long-term job/bennie security.

I also rate the current and last Councils as being the most destructive in my memory.

Add in the direction of Admin, and we have a very citizen/business unfriendly situation

If you are small, local or retail, Economic Development doesn't exist. You are merely here to pay the city piper for countless over-regulatory legalities and little to no support or services.

I am the owner of an 86yo business that has thrived locally until the last decade.

I have survived every kind of competition imaginable, however I can no longer win vs. the current levels of small crime and the demographic rate of poverty. Living wage jobs don't exist here. Quality of life shopping/entertainment options are few and far between here. No one with anything going for them is going to move here.

I live in a reasonably upscale neighborhood, yet the home next to me has been vacant for over two years.

It is in serious dis-repair and completely over-grown. The city has ignored the situation.

I operated two businesses in once-thriving strip centers.. The first went vacant, and I operated there 30 years as the only business in a center that looks like something out of bombed-out Baghdad. I went through countless ED directors who promised tenants within 6 months. Never heard from any of those ED people again. All packed up and left.

I also operated in another once-thriving retail center which is currently following the same course. Didn't like what I sensibly had to do, I took my losses and vacated both locations. Didn't need to go through the decline twice. Local businesses are on their knees like never before, and competition has nothing to do with their problems. Thefts, break-ins, vandalism,and low-income demographics are more than small businesses can over-come when it goes on for as long as it has(and will continue) here.

I have had enough of our Council and Administration.

I have no faith in either of them.

I don't trust them, and don't agree/approve with their actions.

My only method of recourse is to starve them into submission via the ballot box.

I will not support them on any issues until I see serious about-face change (I don't see it coming from this group). Tear this system down, and re-build from the ground up. Painful but necessary.

Mr.Adkins?

Maybe what he is doing now is necessary to begin the journey back to where we need to be.

I don't see anything else moving us towards prosperity. It surely won't be art galleries and property giveaways and a pipe dream about an area that no longer has any significance in our recovery.

A few years ago, we were told that the east end was our salvation.

That situation has blown apart, and never gets a mention any more.

An embarrassing entrance to our community, now book-ended by the never-ending re-do on the western front.

Can we stick with something until we get it right?

jm bitter o

end of rant

Property registration proposal : I knew you could do it Vet. Keep...

Wed, 05 Sep 2012 06:23:28 +0000

Author: Middletown29
Subject: 4562
Posted: Sep 05 2012 at 6:23am

I knew you could do it Vet.
Keep up the balanced perspective.

Property registration proposal : Hey Middletown 29.....here's...

Wed, 05 Sep 2012 06:12:09 +0000

Author: VietVet
Subject: 4562
Posted: Sep 05 2012 at 6:12am

Hey Middletown 29.....here's some positive news!!

Landlords, city come to an accord on rental registration

MIDDLETOWN —
Landlords in the community and city officials have agreed a rental property registration ordinance — which would have charged fees — won’t be necessary.

A committee of city staff and landlords have met a few times since May to discuss middle ground that will allow the city to keep track of unresponsive property owners and not require what landlords had called unnecessary bureaucracy that would have harmed those who follow city regulations.

“It became apparent that to meet the needs that we were looking at, a full-blown rental registration-type legislation that had been seen in other places was not needed to meet the goals that were identified by the committee,” said Middletown Law Director Les Landen.

The committee agreed: there would be no comprehensive local rental registration ordinance; lists of rental property owners would be formed through utility bills; the city would promote the county’s registration program; stakeholders and the city will encourage property maintenance; and there will be an ongoing communication bridge between landlords and the city.

A key recommendation is the communication bridge.

“If we communicate on the front end, we may be able to prevent some of the back end problems we see every year,” Landen said.

There you go 29. Ole Leslie Landen and company made a good choice. Positive feedback for the city from your old "Negative Nemesis"....The Vet.

Property registration proposal : Vivian Moon wrote:Acting...

Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:15:37 +0000

Author: LMAO
Subject: 4562
Posted: Jun 23 2012 at 6:15pm

Vivian Moon wrote:

Acting City Manager’s

Weekly Briefing

June 18, 2012

Rental Property Registration and Vacant Property Registration

Two committees consisting of City staff and community members have been

formed to discuss possible solutions to recurring problems with some rental

and/or vacant properties in the City. By including property owners and City staff cooperative work can be done to deal with these issues. Both committees are scheduled to have their first meetings in the next few weeks

Why would you need two separate committees to discuss this problem?

They can form all the committees as they want but I still wont pay the crooked,spineless ones a dime.Doesnt make a bit of sense cos as I have said before,my properties are registered with the butler county.Cant help it that the crooks cant manage their money.

Property registration proposal : Ms. Viv, I agree that a single...

Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:39:33 +0000

Author: greygoose
Subject: 4562
Posted: Jun 23 2012 at 11:39am

Ms. Viv,

I agree that a single committee could handle it. I can only assume that the city is looking at it as two issues; landlord registration being one and abandoned properties being the other. The committeee dealing with abandoned properties may not have any local landlords on it. Just a guess on my part.

GG

Property registration proposal : Acting City Managerâ€™s Weekly...

Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:21:33 +0000

Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4562
Posted: Jun 23 2012 at 8:21am

Acting City Manager’s

Weekly Briefing

June 18, 2012

Rental Property Registration and Vacant Property Registration

Two committees consisting of City staff and community members have been

formed to discuss possible solutions to recurring problems with some rental

Why would you need two separate committees to discuss this problem?

Property registration proposal : No brain matter = stupidNo heart...

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:58:23 +0000

Author: greygoose
Subject: 4562
Posted: Jun 09 2012 at 10:58am

No brain matter = stupid No heart = coward

Property registration proposal : PacmanIâ€™m not sure that I agree...

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:44:20 +0000

Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4562
Posted: Jun 09 2012 at 5:44am

Pacman
I’m not sure that I agree with your dent statement. I believe if these funds had been focused on the areas of need we could have made a BIG DENT in these problem areas.
You would be shocked at the total amount of HUD Funds that have flowed through the doors of City Hall since 2000.
The rest of the problem occurred because of poor city planning by placing too many large low income properties in a saturated area.

NO LEADERSHIP, NO PLAN, NO VISION, NO FOCUS = FAILURE

Property registration proposal : Vivian,The amount of funds...

Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:14:50 +0000

Author: Pacman
Subject: 4562
Posted: Jun 08 2012 at 10:14pm

Vivian,

The amount of funds that HUD gives the city will never make a dent in the problems of wards 1 & 2. I agree with the rest of your post, the only way Middletown will save itself is to draw in Middle income residents. The city has no focus, no vision, and no sense of direction.

Pacman