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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN :    Thanks for your reply Jef,I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 1:40pm<br /><br />Thanks for your reply Jef,<div><br>I hope your kids continue to do well.<br><br>Pacman<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" /></div>]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN :  Yes, we do have 30 days to install...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1340">JEF</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 1:30am<br /><br /><div>Yes, we do have 30 days to install light bulbs. I could have easily put them in while he was here, but that wasn't allowed. &nbsp;The cost to have new paperwork and a new inspection seems a waste of the city's funds, wouldn't you agree? &nbsp; (It's an automatic&nbsp;re-inspection, you get the paperwork before they leave)</div><div><br></div><div>I lived in a terrible neighborhood before this home with a huge majority of Section 8 tenants. Terrible people and a blind-eyed landlord, absolutely content with running down the neighborhood...why? I don't know or understand it myself.</div><div><br></div><div>Crime runs rampant in the program, I wish they'd <b>drug test </b>and do criminal background checks.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>There are no time limits on Section 8, they don't promote people getting off the program. They do however boast big headlines to flare up the community, making promises to people who want the program gone.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>When people are removed from the program, they just hop all over the city destroying more homes and communities, they don't leave Middletown.</div><div><br></div><div><i>As far as the schools go, I was lucky to get my son into Central Academy this year and he does much better. As far as the high school, my daughter is in &nbsp;advanced classes, so I do try to give them the best&nbsp;opportunity.</i>&nbsp;<i>But the stats on the schooling speaks volumes.</i></div><div><br></div><div>Sorry it took so long to reply.</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by JEF - Dec&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 1:38am</span>]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN :    JEF,The inspector failed...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 9:04pm<br /><br />JEF,<div></div>The inspector failed you without an option to replace the light bulb within X # of days?&nbsp; <div></div><div>Replace the lightbulbs and request another inspection.<br><br>Open enrollment in most schools begin in April.&nbsp; Check it out.&nbsp; <br><br>Pacman<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Pacman - Dec&nbsp;26&nbsp;2012 at 9:10pm</span>]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN : JEF.....Glad that you are one...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;20&nbsp;2012 at 6:17am<br /><br />JEF.....<br /><br />Glad that you are one of the more upstanding citizens in the Section 8 program. You do see where the taxpayer, who is footing this program, can become frustrated and label all Section 8 as bad due to a certain percentage that have made Section 8 a way of life rather than a temporary helping hand up, right?<br /><br />Could you tell us how long you are allowed to be in the Section 8 program before they expect you to be on your own and independent of taxpayer help? IE- any time limit to receive Section 8?<br /><br />It is awfully ironic that since Middletown instituted this program, crime has picked up considerably. IMO, Section 8 and all that goes with it. does attract criminal elements from outside the city as to drugs, theft, and more serious offenses up to and including murder and certainly doesn't help the image in some cases. It also encourages low income to move here with the voucher program and lowers the per capita income level of the city. City leaders are making this town a ghetto, just to create some revenue flow. Poor tradeoff. The last thing we need here, given all the other problems this city has, is more problems created by negative fallout from this program. Instead of concentrating all the Section 8 here in Middletown, the answer is to spread it out to other communities so that everyone enjoys the highs (?) and lows of the program. All need to share more equally. JMO]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN : Not sure how to edit my prior...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1340">JEF</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;19&nbsp;2012 at 4:05pm<br /><br />Not sure how to edit my prior post, but I FIRMLY believe that drug testing would eliminate a large chunk of undeserving tenants.]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN : I&amp;#039;m a section 8 recipient.I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1340">JEF</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;19&nbsp;2012 at 3:42pm<br /><br />I'm a section 8 recipient.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I moved into a very acceptable home, and it is still in the same condition after 2 years. I pay 70% of my rent, and Middletown Housing comes in with the 30% balance.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><b>Recently (2 weeks before Christmas), I failed my inspection. &nbsp;For missing 5 light bulbs.&nbsp;</b></div><div><br></div><div>My house is clean, we are drug free, my lawn is maintained, and I have an excellent, law abiding landlord.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Should my children and I be put out for light bulbs? &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Why should we be punished, for so many others who fail to abide by a program that is essential for my children to have a roof over their heads?</div><div><br></div><div>We've never bothered a soul, and I consider my family a benefit to Middletown. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We &nbsp;already tolerate a below average offering of education, which I believe contributes to a poor quality of life. No brains, no job, no home, sign up for Section 8. &nbsp;It's all connected. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I see why there is a frustration with bad tenants and bad landlords. I can't stand them either, look what they are doing to the rest of us. Unfortunately, we all seem to be placed in the same group.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN :    Are you referring to the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;07&nbsp;2012 at 8:52pm<br /><br />Are you referring to the side walk, the driveway cut, gutters, or the blacktop??&nbsp; Where is this pothole in front of your property?<div><br>If it is the sidewalk, driveway cut, or gutters, the landowner is required to repair these items.&nbsp; <br><br>The place&nbsp;I lived in prior to living in Ohio, this was the city's responsiblity.&nbsp; <br><br>Pacman<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Cool" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN : I see people commenting on the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1291">LH4</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;07&nbsp;2012 at 8:37pm<br /><br />I see people commenting on the pot hole issue. Now section 8 inspectors are failing property inspections due to pot holes in front of a property. How many do you all have in front of your homes?? <br />Coincident .... I think not. Amazing what level  they are going to.]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN : LH4:  &amp;#034;VietVet  I completely...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 11:57am<br /><br />LH4:<br /><br />"VietVet <br />I completely agree with you some of the people on the system do nothing but abuse it! <br />But there are many on the system that have no other way. The elderly,mentally handicapped..etc.. . You would be surprised how many people do really need it"<br /><br />Agree. And this is why EVERYONE ON THE PROGRAMS NEEDS TO BE AUDITED TO VERIFY AND SEPARATE THE ONES WHO REALLY NEED IT FROM THE ONES RUNNING THE SCAMS. UNANNOUNCED AUDITS TO SEE THE REAL PICTURE OF WHAT IS OCCURING, NOT SCHEDULED TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO CHANGE THE SCENE. JUST ASKING FOR CONTROL OF THE PROGRAMS TO OVERSEE THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY. <br /><br />LH4:<br /><br />"Do they love to rent section 8? No...it would be wonderful to have good paying tenants, be able to charge a decent rent and not have to deal with the section 8 headache!! "<br /><br />NOT KNOWING THE RENTAL SITUATION IN MIDDLETOWN, COULD WE STILL FILL THE EMPTY APARTMENTS AND HOUSES WITH NON SECTION 8 PEOPLE, CHARGE A REASONABLE RATE OF RENT AND STILL KEEP THE LANDLORDS IN BUSINESS? SURE WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET THIS PROGRAM OUT OF TOWN.......OR, AT THE VERY LEAST, HAVE ONLY THE AMOUNT OF SECTION 8 THIS TOWN IS TAILORED TO HAVE. OTHER THAN THE GENERAL CLIMATE OF THE CITY, CREATED OF COURSE BY CITY HALL, IS THERE A REASON(S) WHY LANDLORDS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME FILLING RENTAL HOMES AND APARTMENTS? IS THE RENT TOO HIGH? NOT ENOUGH JOBS TO LURE PEOPLE TO TOWN TO RENT? NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE HERE NO MATTER HOW LOW THE RENT GOES, JUST BECAUSE THE CITY LEADERS HAVE MADE TO TOWN SO UNDESIRABLE? <br /><br />THE LANDLORDS ARE JUST CASHING IN ON THE OVERABUNDANT HUD HANDOUTS AND GETTING A GUARANTEED PAYOUT FOR THE RENT THROUGH THE FEDS. CAN'T BLAME THEM. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S HELPING TO RUIN THE CITY....AT THE VERY LEAST, IMAGE WISE. <br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <title>2012 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN : Very Well Said, LH4. It&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1296">digger-2</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4629<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;06&nbsp;2012 at 10:03am<br /><br /><strong><em><font color="#ff00cc" size="3">Very Well Said, LH4.</font></em></strong>&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><div>&nbsp;</div><div><strong><em>It's the bureaucrats who have decimated older residential neighborhoods via their wasteful and misguided spending of HUD funds.&nbsp; Their community improvement policies and plans continue to make a bad problem even worse.</em></strong></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><strong><em><font color="#ff00cc" size="3">Go Mitt Go !!!</font></em></strong>&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /></div><div><strong><em><font color="#ff00cc" size="3">Good Luck Josh Mandel !!</font></em></strong>&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /></div>]]>
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