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   <title>Orman Building :   Mike PThanks for the responds....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=252">Wots</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;22&nbsp;2012 at 7:06pm<br /><br /><div>Mike P</div><div>Thanks for the responds. </div>]]>
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   <title>Orman Building :    Pacman wrote:  The only...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;14&nbsp;2012 at 11:38pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Pacman" alt="Originally posted by Pacman" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Pacman wrote:</strong><br /><br />The only that matters is the last Entity holding the bag, and that would be The City Of Middletown.<div><br>Pacman<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Cool" /></div></td></tr></table><font size="2">Agreed!!!&nbsp; But Mr. Wendt asked about the history of the building.&nbsp; I had recently read a post on facebook about exactly that so I tried to accomodate him.</font>]]>
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   <title>Orman Building :   The only that matters is the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;14&nbsp;2012 at 11:20pm<br /><br />The only that matters is the last Entity holding the bag, and that would be The City Of Middletown.<div><br>Pacman<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Cool" /></div>]]>
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   <title>Orman Building :   Mike_Presta wrote:  arwendt...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=128">swohio75</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;14&nbsp;2012 at 1:45pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" alt="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mike_Presta wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by arwendt" alt="Originally posted by arwendt" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>arwendt wrote:</strong><br /><br />All so sad! Anyone know anything about that history of the building?</td></tr></table> <FONT size=2>The following is courtesy of&nbsp;a post on a&nbsp;Facebook page about memories of Middletown.&nbsp; The poster cautioned that, while some of it is from reference material, other parts are from memory and may not be completely accurate:</FONT><DIV></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><DIV>The building in question known as the Orman Building was originally owned and occupied by Water Refinning. When they went out sometime in the 80's it was purchased by Eddie Orman who intended to use it for storage of his antique cars and other things - maybe even rent some of it out. He built a lavish apartment in the building where he lived till he left and went to Florida. At that time a guy named Scott, who was a friend of the Orman Family took it over to sell used cars out of and also store various things. He did ok for a while and then business started going down hill so on December 17, 2002, Orman Enterprises sold it to Great Miami Real Estate for $400,000. I don't know what they intended to do with the property. On June 24, 2009 Great Miami Real Estate sold it to the State of Ohio for an undisclosed price. On August 25, 2009. the State of Ohio sold it to the City of Middletown, also for an undisclosed price. It was the City's intent to use it for storage of old city property, repossed cars and other recovered stolen property they no longer wanted to keep at the city building property room (storage room)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>This is paritally correct.&nbsp; The building was not originally owned by Water Refining.&nbsp; They moved in in the 1960s.&nbsp; The building was orignally Advance Bag Company.&nbsp; Here are some details:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Mark Albert Thomas, president of the Wardlow-Thomas Pper Company, was also an organizer of the Advance Bag Company with the late James Lawrence, before the turn of the century in 1889.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>They later sold their interests to the Col. M. W. Renick in 1906 who became the president of the concern and led it to great success. At some point firm relocated to Lousiana and became now known as the Southern Advance Bag Company.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The Advance Bag Company site still stands and is known as the Orman Building. Eversharp Incorporated took over the building in 1947 and in 1963 the Water Refining Company relocated here.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thomas' survivors have long history with Middletown and included: one daughter, Mrs. Margaret Crane of South Main Street; two sisters Mrs. M. T. Barnitz and Mrs. C. E. Woodward, of the family residence, four grandchildren, William Crane of Huntington, Long Island, Mrs. William Crawford, Mrs. James Martindale, and Mrs. Ames Gardner, all of Middletown.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Orman Building : Thanks Mr. Presta! </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">arwendt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;14&nbsp;2012 at 10:27am<br /><br />Thanks Mr. Presta!]]>
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   <title>Orman Building : The city learned from the Obama...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=483">Bill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;13&nbsp;2012 at 10:15pm<br /><br />The city learned from the Obama 2009 stimulus -- don't let a good crisis go to waste.]]>
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   <title>Orman Building :     arwendt wrote:All so sad!...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;13&nbsp;2012 at 7:04pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by arwendt" alt="Originally posted by arwendt" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>arwendt wrote:</strong><br /><br />All so sad! Anyone know anything about that history of the building?</td></tr></table><font size="2">The following is courtesy of&nbsp;a post on a&nbsp;Facebook page about memories of Middletown.&nbsp; The poster cautioned that, while some of it is from reference material, other parts are from memory and may not be completely accurate:</font><div></div><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><div>The building in question known as the Orman Building was originally owned and occupied by Water Refinning.  When they went out sometime in the 80's it was purchased by Eddie Orman who intended to  use it for storage of his antique cars and other things - maybe even rent some of it out.  He built a lavish apartment in the building where he lived till he left and went to Florida.  At that time a guy named Scott, who was a friend of the Orman Family took it over to sell used cars out of and also store various things.  He did ok for a while and then business started going down hill so on December 17, 2002, Orman Enterprises sold it to Great Miami Real Estate for $400,000.   I don't know what they intended to do with the property.  On June 24, 2009 Great Miami Real Estate sold it to the State of Ohio for an undisclosed price.  On August 25, 2009. the State of Ohio sold it to the City of Middletown, also for an undisclosed price.  It was the City's intent to use it for storage of old city property, repossed cars and other recovered stolen property they no longer wanted to keep at the city building property room (storage room).</div><div>&nbsp;</div></blockquote><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">409</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;13&nbsp;2012 at 7:00pm<br /><br />Do ya suppose the MMFer's are going to friend city hall back $75,000 to help take care of this? <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;13&nbsp;2012 at 6:53pm<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: auto 0in" =cmcredit><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Second city-owned building found crumbling<BR></FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><BR><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">By </FONT><a href="http://www.middletownjournal.com/staff/michael-d-pitman/" target="_blank"><U><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Michael D. Pitman</FONT></U></A><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: auto 0in" =cmsource><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Staff Writer <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: auto 0in" =cmdateline><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">MIDDLETOWN — <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">A second city-owned vacant downtown building in as many months has partially crumbled due to apparent deterioration.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Last week, the Manchester Inn’s Sonshine building, 101 N. Main St., had bricks fall from its facade onto the sidewalk. Access near the building on North Main Street and Manchester Avenue has been blocked by an orange plastic safety fence.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“The structure of the building is fine, just the brick facade has come loose,” said Doug Adkins, Middletown community revitalization director.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">However, the future stability of the building is in question, he said.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“The condition of the metal lintels and mortar joints makes it impossible to know the stability of the remaining facade,” Adkins said.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Contractors removed loose brick from the building’s facade this past weekend. However, he said metal lintels — load-bearing building components — above the windows on building’s second floor are deteriorating and rusty, and mortar joints were inspected and also found to be deteriorating.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">The sidewalk next to the building has been blocked from pedestrian access because “high winds or other conditions may trigger further collapse of the weakened facade presenting a hazard to anyone occupying the area below,” Adkins said.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Last week the city hired Vickers Wrecking to stabilize the partially collapsed wall and roof of the Orman building, 500 N. Verity Parkway. City officials were notified on July 27 of the partial roof collapse at the northwest wing of the city-owned building. Debris fell from the side of the building — which the walls are protruding — onto the adjacent railroad track.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">The roof is apparently pushing on the building’s exterior walls, Adkins told city council last week.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Issues with the Orman building are forcing the city to raze the building sooner than anticipated, and could cost between $500,000 to $1 million, said City Manager Judy Gilleland. She said this would “wipe out” one of the city’s last remaining downtown project funds, but city staff is looking for grants to help offset some of the cost.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">The fate of the Sonshine building, and how much that fate will cost the city, is being discussed, Adkins said.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“We are still looking at what the options are, possible risk and benefit of each option and then gathering costs and source of funding,” he said.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">The city will likely address the Orman building’s issues before rendering a decision on the Sonshine building.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Bid packets are being prepared to be sent out to potential companies that would be interested in razing the Orman building. Packets had been sent out, but Adkins said they were pulled and reconfigured to reflect the stabilization work to be done this week. A date to open the bids has not yet been set.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><o:p><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4709<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;13&nbsp;2012 at 6:47pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Apparently the city is going ahead with their more expensiveplan (according to the latest story in The Middletown Journal).<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">In retrospect, I should have had a city hall insider suggestoff-loading the Wausau equipment across the street from the Ormanbuilding.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I should have known that theywould never have considered a suggestion from a mere common citizen.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>In their eyes, what could a mere citizenpossibly know?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>As with the removal ofthe roof over City Centre mall, they simply snicker and say “you don’tunderstand…go sit down”.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">If I would’ve convinced Jim Verdin’s son-in-law or Ms. Boberto suggest it, it would have been a wonderful idea and we could’ve savedthousands of dollars.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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