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Posted: Sep 04 2012 at 6:22am

Originally posted by Stanky Stanky wrote:

Don't worry Vet, Ryan's plan (like most out there) to deal with the entitlement programs does not involve cuts for those already over 55 or so. Nope, fear not. Even though your generation has run this country into the ditch by living high on the hog, giving out pork for votes, and favored consumerism over retirement savings, any remedies for our nation's problems will fall on the back of those under 50. What about the concept of shared sacrifice?   


Stanky:

"Even though your generation has run this country into the ditch by living high on the hog, giving out pork for votes, and favored consumerism over retirement savings, any remedies for our nation's problems will fall on the back of those under 50."

Not proud of some of the things my generation has done just as, I would imagine, the generation before us had their issues. Each generation leaves problems for the next. Not exclusive to the baby boomers. Agree, we like our toys. Motorcycles, classic cars (have two myself) a nice house....very materialistic/status leaning generation. Ironically, the boomers started out protesting big government and detesting anything the government did and authority of any kind. Today, most of those same protesters of the 60's have become what they once hated.....conservative, engaged in politics, greedy, selfish, trusting of government......they have BECOME the government.....and it ain't very pretty. Some of the boomers (me) still detest government, still don't want big brother in our business, still hate authority we don't respect......but I understand your disdain for the boomers. We were (are) greedy little people aren't we. Your generation will have it's fair share of bad apples too. You will be labeled also. Just need to wait for it.

As to the subject of entitlement. Through payroll deductions for over 43 years now, I have had Social Sec. taken out to take care of the people who have already retired. When it is my turn at 70, shouldn't I be given the same priveledge? I will have paid into it every week for 51 years. Just recouping some of the money that was involuntarily taken from me, right? Anything wrong with that?]]> Tue, 04 Sep 2012 06:22:33 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34646&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34646 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : TonyB wrote:SJ,We're... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34645&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34645 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 4737
Posted: Sep 04 2012 at 3:32am

Originally posted by TonyB TonyB wrote:

SJ,
 We're out of Iraq, getting out of Afghanistan, and removed the dictator of Libya without losing a single person!!!
WHAT???Shocked]]> Tue, 04 Sep 2012 03:32:07 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34645&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34645 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : SJ,There was very little "progressive"... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34644&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34644 Author: TonyB
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Posted: Sep 03 2012 at 11:12pm

SJ,

There was very little "progressive" in the 2009 stimulus. More than half of that was in the form of tax cuts to "small business"; you know, the "job creators". Yeah, the usual waste, fraud and government handout went along with it, too. This whole bulls*** about who created their business shows me which news organization you watch. No where and at no time did the president say that business owners didn't create their own business. What he said was that without the roads, bridges, electrical infrastructure, an educated work force, building a 21st century business would be impossible. No one lives in a vacuum. The very reason humans dominate the planet is our ability to work together and share information. In a consumer based economy, it is the customer who creates the business, i.e. a need to fill.
As for foreign policy, ask Osama bin Laden or Mummar Khadafi what they think of Obama's foreign policy. Oh, that's right, you can't 'cause their dead!!! We're out of Iraq, getting out of Afghanistan, and removed the dictator of Libya without losing a single person!!! Romney wants to go back into Iraq, stay in Afghanistan and start an immediate war with Iran!!! That seems to be quite a contrast in foreign policy.

Vet,
One thing caught my eye that I had to question. The idea that this whole economic problem started with Clinton. When Clinton left office, there was no annual budget deficit and the country's debt was decreasing. Tax cuts for the rich and two wars took care of that along with the Medicare pharmacy giveaway. Where Clinton screwed up was in revoking the banking regulations that eventually caused the banks to act like casinos and gambled pensions and mortgages which they lost. That is what needs restored is the division between "banking" and "investment" companies.
]]> Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:12:26 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34644&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34644 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : Don't worry Vet, Ryan's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34640&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34640 Author: Stanky
Subject: 4737
Posted: Sep 03 2012 at 5:55pm

Don't worry Vet, Ryan's plan (like most out there) to deal with the entitlement programs does not involve cuts for those already over 55 or so. Nope, fear not. Even though your generation has run this country into the ditch by living high on the hog, giving out pork for votes, and favored consumerism over retirement savings, any remedies for our nation's problems will fall on the back of those under 50. What about the concept of shared sacrifice?   ]]> Mon, 03 Sep 2012 17:55:36 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34640&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34640 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : Like the Spider, I will also "hold... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34639&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34639 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Sep 03 2012 at 4:52pm

Like the Spider, I will also "hold my nose" when voting this time. As I've said before, don't like Obama's sponsorship of illegals and the rights they are reported to enjoy under his leadership. Don't like his minority push either. Have doubts about the Obama Care thing and don't like all the bail-out packages either. Simply don't know enough about Romney as yet to give him my vote. Seems vague in his message so far. Gonna have to ramp up the specifics to tell me what he is all about before November. Ryan? Need to know more about him too. At 63, I'm very interested in the future of Social Security and Medicare as I approach my chosen age to retire- 70. There is talk that Ryan wants to change things. I'm not going to be a happy camper if that happens. Will have paid into it for 51 years at age 70. Don't screw with what I put in. Ryan will need to clarify what he wants to do. Comes across like Josh Mandel......a kid with a squeeky voice. Are they of age to run for office? Just kidding. ]]> Mon, 03 Sep 2012 16:52:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34639&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34639 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : Could Paul Ryan be a crazy loose... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34635&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34635 Author: Lebanonian
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Posted: Sep 03 2012 at 1:45pm

Could Paul Ryan be a crazy loose cannon who will say anything and lie about anything in order to achieve an end?

http://www.newsday.com/opinion/viewsday-1.3683911/filler-marathon-runners-don-t-forget-their-time-what-was-paul-ryan-thinking-1.3946386

"Ryan told a radio host last week he ran that marathon, the only one he’s ever run, in “under three (hours), high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.”

He actually completed it in just over four hours.

For you non-runners out there, he was describing an athletic feat that would be, while not world class, pretty elite. We’re talking more than 26 miles at a sub-seven minute per mile pace. Few casual runners can run more than one or two miles at that clip."

Ryan comes off as genteel and calming and most middle class people will buy that he's solid and dependable. Looks can be deceiving.

]]> Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:45:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34635&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34635 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : Tony--what is progressive... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34632&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34632 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 4737
Posted: Sep 03 2012 at 10:45am

Tony--what is progressive about stimulus $$ wasted, and adding trillions to national debt?
GW started it, however the Pres snowballed it downhill with no measurable success.
Telling business owners that govt. built their businesses and is responsible for their success is nonsense.
Actually, it is the exact opposite. Private business success has made possible government expenditures.
 
Obama is all show--he has never stopped campaigning, and has never really provided leadership.
His foreign policies are non-existent, and have confused our allies(left in the cold) and emboldened our adversaries.
 
That being said--I don't think much of Romney either.
I do like Ryan, and expect him to have Biden for lunch in their debates.
Still--the media will continue to spin in the hard-core liberal direction, cvontrary to their real purpose for being..
 
Health care?
I am not sure
As a citizen and employer, I am getting screwed currently, and wonder if maybe the Pres's plan
might be an improvement for me.
 
I dread the uglnyess coming in the next two months of campaigning.
Obama is dirty and hiding behind his PACs
I don't think that Romney has begun yet, and expect him to hit full-force soon after this week's convention.
 
Can't either side explain their plans and positions positively with substance?
Give us something to actually believe in and support!
Quit blaming GW for the Wall St mess that Clinton covered up by concealing the fraud behind the phony gains. GW walking in to a collapsing situation, yet he only made it worse. Obama has continued the downward spiral exponentially, hiding behind his media-supported smokescreen.
 
jmo
 
we are screwed either way, thoiugh I will hold my nose, and once again vote for a "change" in leadership.
]]> Mon, 03 Sep 2012 10:45:16 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34632&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34632 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : Stanky,I don't know where... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34630&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34630 Author: TonyB
Subject: 4737
Posted: Sep 03 2012 at 9:15am

Stanky,

I don't know where you get your information but I have a suspicion it's simply created in your head!!! Show me anyplace where you can find information that Obama wants to pay slave reparations. That's bulls***!!! As for the free food, housing and medical care, show me where he advocated that anyone should get these things for nothing!!! You talk a lot of crap but never provide the backup to your fantasies. I was also unaware of your mind reading abilities. "In his mind" is such a garbage phrase because you don't know what's in someone's mind so stop pretending you do and stop using it as justification for things that you don't know about!

Bocephus,

OH!!! You sure showed me with your "Yea, Right!" post. What's the matter, couldn't find a true progressive to ask? Obama only seems liberal to those on the extreme right. To most anyone else, he's a moderate. Once again, instead of assuming, go ask someone who is a progressive and they will tell you the truth. That might go against your preconceived notion of Obama but it will definitely enlighten you to what progressives think of Obama!!!
]]> Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:15:39 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34630&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34630 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : rngrmed, check with attorneys... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34619&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34619 Author: Stanky
Subject: 4737
Posted: Sep 02 2012 at 5:31pm

rngrmed, check with attorneys that specialize in this. I believe Jim Langendorf on University Blvd handles labor law questions.]]> Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:31:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34619&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34619 “25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH!” : He doesn't have any of... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34618&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34618 Author: rngrmed
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Posted: Sep 02 2012 at 4:15pm

He doesn't have any of the "required" E.O.E signs posted.   My understanding is that businesses are required to have signs from the Department of Labor.  My knowledge in this area is very limited, so I could be wrong.  I have thought about reporting several times.  Passed on several good candidates just because of age.  ]]> Sun, 02 Sep 2012 16:15:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737&PID=34618&title=25-reasons-time-for-a-switch#34618