Middletown Forum : More Red Light Cameras Needed http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Income and Property Tax : More Red Light Cameras Needed Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:15:22 +0000 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:10:19 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4914 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ More Red Light Cameras Needed : I thought the red light cameras... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44229&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44229 Author: rngrmed
Subject: 4914
Posted: Dec 18 2014 at 9:10pm

I thought the red light cameras were already ruled unconstitutional after by a judge after citizens were not afforded the opportunity of a trail after receiving a ticket.

Didn't I read that they the red lights were to stop being used already? I know I seem some flash around town still

]]> Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:10:19 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44229&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44229 More Red Light Cameras Needed : Paul Nagy wrote:Of course,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44228&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44228 Author: rngrmed
Subject: 4914
Posted: Dec 18 2014 at 8:55pm

Originally posted by Paul Nagy Paul Nagy wrote:

Of course, the camera took the picture and they charged me a hundred dollars. With all of the problems we were dealing with I held the bill for about seventeen days. I answered the summons and told them that it was a medical emergency and I did the right thing under the circumstances and I would do it again under the same circumstances. They added another $25 in penalties and refused to give me a hearing because I didn't respond within fifteen days
Paul Nagy


Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

Another red light camera story from the Journal......

Cameras used for more than red-light violations, police say
The controversial cameras are also used to help solve crimes.

When the motorist receives the citation in the mail, they can either pay the $100 fine, which increases $25 if not paid within 30 days; or argue against the ticket in Middletown Municipal Court.



Sounds like Mr. Nagy was charged the $25 against City policy
]]> Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:55:38 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44228&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44228 More Red Light Cameras Needed : Yep John and what are all these... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44223&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44223 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4914
Posted: Dec 18 2014 at 6:25pm

Yep John and what are all these cities going to do-do-do without all that easy extra cash to fill their coffers?

]]> Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:25:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44223&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44223 More Red Light Cameras Needed : There is a bill on Governor John... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44218&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44218 Author: John Beagle
Subject: 4914
Posted: Dec 18 2014 at 5:04pm

There is a bill on Governor John Kasich's desk that essentially will ban traffic cameras in the state of Ohio. 

The bill requires local governments to station a police officer at any intersection where a red light camera is operating. This move would make the cameras useless and too expensive for most cities to operate.

]]> Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:04:35 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=44218&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#44218 More Red Light Cameras Needed : Actually, I don't believe... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37422&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37422 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 4914
Posted: Mar 31 2013 at 10:24am

Actually, I don't believe that Marianne was on the Advisory Board when red light cameras were discussed.
The MU-M rep at that time was probably Dr.Ewers.
Though Marianne's husband would have probably been there back then.]]> Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:24:30 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37422&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37422 More Red Light Cameras Needed : VietVet wrote: Marianne... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37421&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37421 Author: 409
Subject: 4914
Posted: Mar 31 2013 at 10:08am

Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

Originally posted by Marianne Marianne wrote:


Originally posted by Chris Fiora Chris Fiora wrote:



The biggest issus I have with the red light cameras in Middletown is that they've shortened the yellow lights to try and catch more people.  The yellow light should be long enough to comfortably stop without having to jam on the brakes.  This is not the case in Middletown.


Mr. Fiora,
From where did you receive this information?  Middletown has not "shortened the yellow lights to try and catch more people."  I'm disappointed that an elected member of the Middletown BOE would perpetuate this idea.  






Marianne.....might be true that the city hasn't shortened the yellow light sequence as you state. You would know as you are on the Citizen Advisory Board to the Police. However, if this is not the case, the yellow light timing should be looked into as some yellow light intervals are extemely short. Example? Watch the timing on the light at Marshall and Central by Cincinnati Eye Institute. The yellow light is very short in nature and allows very little time to clear the intersection before the light turns red. Some lights on major thoroughfares like Breile are short on the yellow light step also. Hard to stop the car at 45 with the quick lights. IMO, ALL traffic lights need to be re-examined for yellow light timing and made longer if similar to Central and Marshall. No proof, but it almost appears that this is done on purpose as a revenue enhancer for the city, especially if teamed up with those dam cameras. Let's put the city engineer's office to work changing the light timing to a more reasonable rate. Might even prevent an accident or two by giving drivers more time to clear an intersection before the other direction starts the NASCAR start sequence.
 
From the ORC:
4511.094 Signs required for photo-monitoring devices.
(C) A local authority that uses traffic law photo-monitoring devices to enforce any traffic law at an intersection where traffic is controlled by traffic control signals that exhibit different colored lights or colored lighted arrows shall time the operation of the yellow lights and yellow arrows of those traffic control signals so that the steady yellow indication exceeds by one second the minimum duration for yellow indicators at similar intersections as established by the provisions of the manual adopted by the department of transportation under section 4511.09 of the Revised Code.
 
Is this really happening?
 
]]> Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:08:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37421&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37421 More Red Light Cameras Needed : I do have a question. When going... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37420&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37420 Author: ktf1179
Subject: 4914
Posted: Mar 31 2013 at 9:07am

I do have a question. When going north on Dixie Hwy. at Ohio 122. Is it legal to turn right if the light is red? I counted at least 10 vehicles run the red light.  The only reason I ask this is ODOT or the city setup a special traffic light for the people in the right turn lane. I know with Austin Blvd. and 741 it is illegal to turn right on red, I just wasn't sure if the same applied to this intersection.]]> Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:07:08 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37420&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37420 More Red Light Cameras Needed : The goal of the cameras is... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37417&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37417 Author: Pacman
Subject: 4914
Posted: Mar 30 2013 at 10:47pm

The goal of the cameras is to increase overall safety, not generate money for the city, Hoffman said.
If someone cares to do some extensive research, they could go back prior to Jan, 2011 (this is when I went blind) and view the workshop meetings held upstairs at city hall (before council meetings) and you will find that Ms Gilliland stated is words to this effect that they could add more red light cameras to increase revenues into the general fund.  

You may also search this blog and be able to find it in here when I posted it at the time it occurred.
]]> Sat, 30 Mar 2013 22:47:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37417&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37417 More Red Light Cameras Needed : Another red light camera story... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37413&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37413 Author: VietVet
Subject: 4914
Posted: Mar 30 2013 at 4:26pm

Another red light camera story from the Journal......

Cameras used for more than red-light violations, police say
The controversial cameras are also used to help solve crimes.

When the motorist receives the citation in the mail, they can either pay the $100 fine, which increases $25 if not paid within 30 days; or argue against the ticket in Middletown Municipal Court.
Hoffman said the City of Middletown receives 55 percent of every paid red-light camera violation, and the other 45 percent goes to RedFlex, a major player in the traffic-camera industry that also operates the cameras in Hamilton.

HOFFMAN REFERENCES MONEY THE CITY RECEIVES FROM THE FINES.

If the 15,381 violations since 2010 were paid, the city received $845,955 for its general fund in those three years, while RedFlex received $692,145. The city also receives 100 percent of any late fees, Hoffman said.

HOFFMAN REFERENCE MONEY MADE BY THE CITY AGAIN. THEN SAYS......

The goal of the cameras is to increase overall safety, not generate money for the city, Hoffman said.



NOW, WE HAVE A NEW JUSTIFICATION FOR CAMERAS FROM HOFFMAN......

The effectiveness of red light cameras can’t be judged solely on the number of accidents at the intersection, he said. For instance, police are capable of using the video footage of an intersection to search for a possible suspect. When Barbara Howe, of Monroe, was found in the back of her trunk in a Middletown apartment parking lot, police reviewed the footage at local intersection to look for potential suspects.

TRACKING DOWN A SINGLE SUSPECT CAR, ON ONE OF 12 CAMERAS LOCATED ON ROUTES THE SUSPECTED CAR MAY/MAY NOT HAVE TAKEN. WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT A PARTICULAR CAR WOULD BE SEEN, AT A PARTICULAR TIME, ON A PARTICULAR DATE, AT A PARTICULAR LOCATION, AROUND THE HOWE DISAPPEARENCE DATE?

A Hamilton County Court judge ruled recently that a traffic camera ordinance in a small village near Cincinnati is invalid and unenforceable. Lawmakers are also proposing a state law banning all traffic cameras in Ohio.

NOW, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. IF IT IS UNENFORCEABLE IN CINCY, IT SHOULD BE UNENFORCEABLE IN MIDDLETOWN MAJOR. IT IS BIG BROTHER AS AN UNWANTED PASSENGER IN YOUR CAR. IT IS GOVERNMENT INTRUSION IN YOUR LIFE. JMO]]> Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:26:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37413&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37413 More Red Light Cameras Needed : Lets face the facts that the biggest... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37314&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37314 Author: TANGO
Subject: 4914
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 2:02pm

Lets face the facts that the biggest thing that the cameras are good for is money for the city. If it was not for the money than their would be no cameras FACT.  Its just an other way the city and states can get more money for more control because they know  whats best for you.]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:02:44 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4914&PID=37314&title=more-red-light-cameras-needed#37314