Middletown Forum : More Demos A Comin' http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : Community Revitalization : More Demos A Comin' Mon, 05 Oct 2026 15:12:52 +0000 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:30:17 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4930 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ More Demos A Comin' : Years ago, the former Sonshine,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=36012&title=more-demos-a-comin#36012 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4930
Posted: Dec 11 2012 at 11:30am

Years ago, the former Sonshine, Studio Theater, Middletown Cabinet and Montgomery Ward buildings

Cincinnati State has become the excuse for City Hall spending every dollar they can beg, borrow and steal from other funds to revive “Their Downtown”.
City Hall purchased the Sonshine building and Studio Theater.
I believe City Hall purchased the Middletown Cabinet for $90,000 and I do not believe this is an unsafe building so why do they want to demo this building? Why wasn’t this building put up for sale? So what friend of City Hall wants this property?
What about the old Rose Furniture building that was on the demo list because it was unsafe?

HOW MANY DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAXES HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE CITY COFFERS?
HOW MANY JOBS HAVE ALL THESE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ADDED TO DOWNTOWN?
HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR “THEIR DOWNTOWN”?


]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:30:17 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=36012&title=more-demos-a-comin#36012 More Demos A Comin' : My first problem with all this... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=36010&title=more-demos-a-comin#36010 Author: arwendt
Subject: 4930
Posted: Dec 11 2012 at 10:08am

My first problem with all this starts with the phrase "City owned structures". 

My second and third problems start there too.
]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:08:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=36010&title=more-demos-a-comin#36010 More Demos A Comin' : HOW MANY PARKING LOTS DO WE... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=36005&title=more-demos-a-comin#36005 Author: John Beagle
Subject: 4930
Posted: Dec 11 2012 at 8:43am

HOW MANY PARKING LOTS DO WE NEED
]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:43:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=36005&title=more-demos-a-comin#36005 More Demos A Comin' : VietVet wrote:Today's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=35999&title=more-demos-a-comin#35999 Author: Bocephus
Subject: 4930
Posted: Dec 11 2012 at 12:10am

Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

Today's Journal...

City targets five eyesores for demolition

Middletown officials are considering tearing down pieces of downtown’s history in order to build toward the city’s future.
Years ago, the former Sonshine, Studio Theater, Middletown Cabinet and Montgomery Ward buildings were some of the most highly-used and recognizable buildings in Middletown. Today, they are among the worst eyesores.
That’s why city officials are talking about spending between $1 million and $1.5 million to demolish those city-owned structures in the second phase of a two-part demolitions plan. The first phase of the city’s plan involves razing the Orman building at 500 Tytus Ave., which carries a price tag of $597,000.

JUDITH SAYS.....

“With severely blighted structures eliminated from the landscape, and fresh green space, parking lots or new buildings in their place — along with students from Cincinnati State and the draw from art establishments and restaurants — I believe our downtown will have a very lively and vital feel in five years,” said City Manager Judy Gilleland.

HOW MANY "NEW BUILDINGS" HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE ONES DEMOLISHED JUDITH? PLEASE NAME A FEW. HOW MUCH "GREEN SPACE" DOES A TOWN NEED AND HOW MANY PARKING LOTS DO WE NEED FOR THE FEW BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AND HOW MUCH PARKING IS NEEDED FOR WHAT, 200 STUDENTS AT MOST? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT, AT THIS TIME, THERE IS A NEED FOR AN ABUNDANCE OF PARKING. AND JUST HOW MUCH OF A "DRAW" HAS THE ARTS AND RESTAURANTS CREATED TO DATE? IF THE ARTS AND RESTAURANTS GREW THREEFOLD, THEY WOULD ATTRACT A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO THE DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THE ARTS ATTRACT LESS THAN 5% OF THE POPULATION AND THE TYPE OF RESTAURANTS THEY SEEK DOWNTOWN AND THE PRICES THEY CHARGE WILL MIMIMIZE ATTRACTION ALSO. I DON'T ENVISION THE "LIVELY AND VITAL (WHATEVER THAT MEANS) FEEL IN FIVE YEARS. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING YOU HAVE DONE DOWNTOWN LASTING, INCLUDING CS, BASED ON THE GROWTH TO DATE. NO TRAFFIC JAMS DOWN ON CENTRAL AND BROAD YET JUDITH. NONE 5 YEARS FROM NOW EITHER IMO......NOT WITH YOUR COLLEGE/ARTZY/FINGER FOOD RESTAURANT THEME YOU ARE BANKING ON. WRONG THEME FOR THIS TOWN. LIKE FORCING THE PEOPLE TO WATCH BALLET OR OPERA WHEN THEY WOULD RATHER WATCH WWE WRESTLING OR A DEMOLITION DERBY. YA JUST DON'T GET THAT THIS IS NOT A HIGHLY CULTURED TOWN. IT IS A WORKING CLASS TOWN. ALWAYS HAS BEEN.....ALWAYS WILL BE. STOP TRYING TO FORCE-FIT A CULTURED IMAGE INTO A NON-CULTURED CLASS OF PEOPLE.
 
Us Hillbillies have lots of culture it just dont involve much of what these people are trying to create.These people have gone crazy trying to build up a downtown while the rest of the I-75 corridor is trying to expand where the traffic is. And now these idjits just borrowed 1 million (wonder which of their buddies will see the $$$ from this "loan" ) for us to pay back when they cant even take care of the roads and safety services ? Has every one gone bloody mad ?
]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:10:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=35999&title=more-demos-a-comin#35999 More Demos A Comin' : Today's Journal...City targets... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=35997&title=more-demos-a-comin#35997 Author: VietVet
Subject: 4930
Posted: Dec 10 2012 at 7:31pm

Today's Journal...

City targets five eyesores for demolition

Middletown officials are considering tearing down pieces of downtown’s history in order to build toward the city’s future.
Years ago, the former Sonshine, Studio Theater, Middletown Cabinet and Montgomery Ward buildings were some of the most highly-used and recognizable buildings in Middletown. Today, they are among the worst eyesores.
That’s why city officials are talking about spending between $1 million and $1.5 million to demolish those city-owned structures in the second phase of a two-part demolitions plan. The first phase of the city’s plan involves razing the Orman building at 500 Tytus Ave., which carries a price tag of $597,000.

JUDITH SAYS.....

“With severely blighted structures eliminated from the landscape, and fresh green space, parking lots or new buildings in their place — along with students from Cincinnati State and the draw from art establishments and restaurants — I believe our downtown will have a very lively and vital feel in five years,” said City Manager Judy Gilleland.

HOW MANY "NEW BUILDINGS" HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE ONES DEMOLISHED JUDITH? PLEASE NAME A FEW. HOW MUCH "GREEN SPACE" DOES A TOWN NEED AND HOW MANY PARKING LOTS DO WE NEED FOR THE FEW BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AND HOW MUCH PARKING IS NEEDED FOR WHAT, 200 STUDENTS AT MOST? THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT, AT THIS TIME, THERE IS A NEED FOR AN ABUNDANCE OF PARKING. AND JUST HOW MUCH OF A "DRAW" HAS THE ARTS AND RESTAURANTS CREATED TO DATE? IF THE ARTS AND RESTAURANTS GREW THREEFOLD, THEY WOULD ATTRACT A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO THE DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THE ARTS ATTRACT LESS THAN 5% OF THE POPULATION AND THE TYPE OF RESTAURANTS THEY SEEK DOWNTOWN AND THE PRICES THEY CHARGE WILL MIMIMIZE ATTRACTION ALSO. I DON'T ENVISION THE "LIVELY AND VITAL (WHATEVER THAT MEANS) FEEL IN FIVE YEARS. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING YOU HAVE DONE DOWNTOWN LASTING, INCLUDING CS, BASED ON THE GROWTH TO DATE. NO TRAFFIC JAMS DOWN ON CENTRAL AND BROAD YET JUDITH. NONE 5 YEARS FROM NOW EITHER IMO......NOT WITH YOUR COLLEGE/ARTZY/FINGER FOOD RESTAURANT THEME YOU ARE BANKING ON. WRONG THEME FOR THIS TOWN. LIKE FORCING THE PEOPLE TO WATCH BALLET OR OPERA WHEN THEY WOULD RATHER WATCH WWE WRESTLING OR A DEMOLITION DERBY. YA JUST DON'T GET THAT THIS IS NOT A HIGHLY CULTURED TOWN. IT IS A WORKING CLASS TOWN. ALWAYS HAS BEEN.....ALWAYS WILL BE. STOP TRYING TO FORCE-FIT A CULTURED IMAGE INTO A NON-CULTURED CLASS OF PEOPLE. ]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:31:31 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4930&PID=35997&title=more-demos-a-comin#35997