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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : Vet: I&amp;#039;ve seen reports of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;07&nbsp;2008 at 11:06am<br /><br />Vet:<DIV>I've seen reports of some electrics that look downright slick...and they go from 0 to 100 mph in something like 3 (yes, THREE) seconds and top out at over 200 mph.</DIV><DIV>The downside??&nbsp; They cost about a million bucks a copy and carry only 2 people and a bowling bag.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If I can find it, I'll send you the link.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : Alright Mike, I may have to draw...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;07&nbsp;2008 at 10:47am<br /><br />Alright Mike, I may have to draw the line on driving one of those electric cars in the future ,that is, unless they make them better looking than the hybrids. Mercy, are they butt ugly! A man's got to have some pride in his ride, right, especially if he lived through the 60's muscle car era.]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : That&amp;#039;s the only reasonable...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;07&nbsp;2008 at 7:42am<br /><br />That's the only reasonable course, Vet, and we should do so with all due haste as well as all due precautions. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Along with that we should pursue energy alternatives. and we should renew our nuclear electric generation program, just as those darlings of the environmentalists the Scandinavians and French are doing.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Once battery technology does allow practical electrical cars, we will need all of the clean, safe, reliable electricity that we can generate to keep them on the road!&nbsp; <img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Up" /></DIV>]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : OK then, points well taken-everything...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;07&nbsp;2008 at 6:33am<br /><br />OK then, points well taken-everything that was deemed off limits to drilling should be removed from the list- let's start drilling and working on increasing refiner capacity. ]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : Agreed, Pacman! And we cannot...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;07&nbsp;2008 at 5:05am<br /><br />Agreed, Pacman!<DIV>And we cannot stop other nations from drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, and doing so closer and closer to our shores.&nbsp; Do any of you think that Castro or Chavez or Putin or the Chinese will be MORE environmentally conscientious than we will?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And use your heads for something other than hat-racks regarding electric cars!&nbsp; Just imagine that practical electric cars were available TOMORROW, and everyone traded in their internal combustion models ASAP.&nbsp; Do any of you think you will be able to re-charge them for FREE???&nbsp; We will need the exact same ADDITIONAL amount of <strong><EM>electrical energy</EM></strong> as that <strong><EM>petroleum energy</EM></strong> which we are replacing!!!&nbsp; Just WHERE would we get it???</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The same nuts who are against drilling are against nuclear power plants, coal-fired power plants, and natural gas fired power plants!!!&nbsp; (Also, all but the nukes are <strong><EM>NON-renewable, fossil fuels as well</EM></strong>!!)&nbsp; And we already have black-outs and brown-outs every time we turn around <strong><EM>WITHOUT</EM></strong> everyone charging up their vehicles!!!)&nbsp; Don't suggest hydro-electric...that's bound to get somebody's knickers in a knot because it will endanger the "habitat" of a minnow or two.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>In fact, don't suggest ANYTHING until you actually <strong><EM>"run the numbers"</EM></strong> and actually realize how much <strong><EM>energy being produced from petroleum</EM></strong> that your idea must <strong><EM>replace!&nbsp; </EM></strong></DIV><DIV><strong><EM></EM></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><EM>You will find that most of the suggestions are downright SILLY!!!</EM></DIV>]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : Vet when the first Gulf War ended...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 11:56pm<br /><br />Vet when the first Gulf War ended and Sadaam lit up all those oil rigs and dumped all that oil into the Gulf.&nbsp; The World was coming to an end according to the environmentalists.&nbsp; It didn't.&nbsp; <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>There are over 3500 oil&nbsp;tankers, and the Valdez is small compared to some of these tankers,&nbsp;cruising the oceans of the world loaded with oil.&nbsp; There are 1000's of offshore&nbsp;oil rigs throughout the world some in much harsher environments than we have in the USA and they manage to work.&nbsp; Are there accidents yes, that is the nature of the beast.&nbsp; Will there be oil spills yup.&nbsp; Will oil refineries continue to catch fire, yup.&nbsp;&nbsp; Will fuel storage facilities have accidents yup.&nbsp; Will coal mines have cave ins yup.&nbsp;Will trucks carrying gas get into accidents and explode, yup.&nbsp; Will natural gas tanks catch fire, yup.&nbsp; &nbsp; If we listen to the environmentalist we will never get out of bed in the morning and start our cars.&nbsp; An oil spill, contrary to popular belief, will not be the end of the world. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>There are about 1,717 producton platforms in the Gulf of Mexico.&nbsp; We don't hear reports of&nbsp; major&nbsp;oil spills from them do we, and they are in the path of hurricanes for 6 months of the year.&nbsp; California has platforms off its shores and believe me if they leaked an eye dropper full of oil&nbsp;there, the rest of the world would hear about it.&nbsp; While there is always the risk of a spill we can't live with "the sky is falling" mentality all of the time.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>This economy can not sustain itself on $4-5.00 a gallon gas for even&nbsp;12-18 months.&nbsp;&nbsp; To much is impacted by this sudden rise in gas.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : No...I do think we should drill...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=29">.308</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 11:25pm<br /><br />No...I do think we should drill now. That's a not a real question in my book. It’s like going to the Olive Garden and having the waitress ask: "Would you like some cheese on your entree?" The answer to both is a given. My point was we have to move past this&nbsp;and quick as it distracts us from focusing on a long term solution.]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : Jonathan- I doubt that if McCain...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 9:21pm<br /><br />Jonathan- I doubt that if McCain lifts the ban on off shore drilling that "you will be able to decide where to drill" That will be decided by your government, not the people. I agree with you on the drilling concept to ensure we have enough fuel for our economy. Now, will you be the first in line to volunteer for the potential cleanup if we have another "Exxon Valdez" episode on the oil rigs? Not taking the side of the environmentalist, mind you, but just trying to point out the impact to the oceans, wildlife and the land if a catastrophy occurs. Once that happens, there's no turning back on the permanent damage done. Just suggesting that we take a cautious approach to such an important decision for us and future generations. Refining- it's a shame that the big oil companies didn't get started on building additional refineries in the 70's. I guess the gas lines in the 70's, due to the lack of volume, didn't provide a clue to them that more fuel was needed. Perhaps 30 plus years ago, they could have built more refineries without the "not in my back yard" message now. Big oil companies are no friend of the working man and will get no praise from me. Just greedy corporate scum slowly choking the public financially. JMO]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : Right on Jonathan.   .308 and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 5:55pm<br /><br /><DIV><strong><FONT color=#ff0000 size=7>Right on Jonathan.</FONT></strong></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>.308 and Ernie I think you both miss the point.&nbsp; The point is not to drill every last drop of oil out of the U.S.&nbsp; The point is to start drilling now while we as a nation work on alternative fuels.&nbsp; Whether that be Wind, Nuclear, Bio-fuels, fuel cells, solar, Natural gas, etc.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The point is not to just tie our hands and put our economy into the crapper by not drilling.&nbsp; I don't see how it can be put any clearer than it has.&nbsp; Do it all and do it now and stop this petty bickering and arguing.&nbsp; Doing as Obama originally suggested and just sit here and suffer with High Oil prices, while we attempt to develope alternatives just ain't gonna cut it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>We need offshore oil drilling now! : Drill now, drill later, drill...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=29">.308</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 499<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 5:38pm<br /><br /><P =Ms&#111;normal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; mso-ansi-: EN">Drill now, drill later, drill here of drill there, all that is just a distraction to the real problem, that is our entire economy has been built on cheap oil sourced elsewhere. That horse has left the stable and we need another plan. </SPAN></P>]]>
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