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   <title>Some hard questions... :   Isn&amp;#039;t there some type...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=235">wannaknow</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;23&nbsp;2013 at 1:04pm<br /><br />Isn't there some type of legal entity that audits a city and their decision making staff.&nbsp;It seems like there are numerous almost criminal activities being done by our city leaders. Their real estate practices are out of control. Their favoritism affects everyone. I saw where a mayor in another state went to prison for choosing only a select group of contractors that were allowed to operate in the city. Does that happen here? <div></div><div>I know there are financial auditors and the city got thru all that via their moving funds from here to there. Why didn't the auditors find the secret money from no-where that the city finds when they need it?&nbsp;Are they allowed to be in the real estate market? I see that some of the council members are involved in some of the citizen projects which I think would be illegal.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Couldn't all these violations be presented in a clear and concise way and presented to someone in a higher power than the city to determine if anything illegal was being done? The majority of the people in this town could care less about the issues because they either are part of the elite group and get what they want or they are the ones who take the hand-outs and don't care. This is proven when it comes time to vote.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Then there is the small group of concerned citizens like us that care. What steps can be taken that will produce results? </div>]]>
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   <title>Some hard questions... : Yes,VV,It is time. Don&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1299">over the hill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;10&nbsp;2013 at 11:03am<br /><br />Yes,VV,It is time. Don't let the screen door hit you.........]]>
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   <title>Some hard questions... : Oh boy! Help me here. I may be...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;10&nbsp;2013 at 7:24am<br /><br />Oh boy! Help me here. I may be in deep crap. Several years ago, I had an addition put on the house. I contracted the builder and submitted the plans to the city and got a building permit. Had the city inspector out to sign off at completion. Should I have gotten a "Certificate of Appropriatness" for this also? No one told me when applying for the building permit that I would need this Marty Kohler sponsored/ historicalgroup/snobby form as well.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /><br />Speaking of appropriate.....isn't it time these city <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> 's packed their bags and moved out of town?  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 07:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Some hard questions... :    Vet....I barely got away...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">409</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 7:33pm<br /><br /><font size="1">Vet....I barely got away with this: <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div></div><div></div><img src="uploads/259/car_hoods.b.jpg" height="213" width="550" border="0" /><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Before starting on that, I may need to wait on this: <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div><div><a href="http://www.cityofmiddletown.org/docs/planning/cert_appropriate_2011.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cityofmiddletown.org/docs/planning/cert_appropriate_2011.pdf</a></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div></font>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Some hard questions... : MikeP....Oh well...maybe they&amp;#039;ll...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 10:00am<br /><br />MikeP....Oh well...maybe they'll throw up some of those "historically appropriate" junk auto hoods to make up for it!!! <br /><br /><br />Don't tease us with the notion that the car hood idea is still being entertained Mike. Being the arts lover that I am, I wanted to see those pesky Cohen car hoods on the PAC in the worst way. (SEE 409's photo idea in previous posts) Would have said so much about the rich arts heritage the downtown has been known for the last 5 decades.  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle" />....that and the velvet Elvis and "Dogs Playing Poker" paintings. Since the car hood idea won't happen at the PAC, perhaps 409 could give us a rendition of what a car hood attached to the new lighting would look like as we drive down S. Main St. Maybe the household name and street address stenciled on the car hood as well.......]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Some hard questions... : I can&amp;#039;t wait to find out...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 8:01am<br /><br />I can't wait to find out the REAL COST of this historic Main Street Light Project. <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>I have never seen so much tap dancing about the cost of a project and who was going to be paying for what.<DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 08:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Some hard questions... :   Why...the exact type should...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 6:29am<br /><br /><font size="2">Why...the exact type should be noted on the "Certificate of Appropriateness" issued by the Historic Commission before these lights were authorized. </font><div>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="2">Oops..wait...there was no "Certificate of Appropriateness", was there???&nbsp; But how could that be???&nbsp; Wouldn't that be a violation of City Ordinance 1210???</font></div><div><font size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="2">Hmm...laws don't seem to be much of a factor when City Hall, friends of City Hall, or the so-called history gang are involved, do they???</font></div><div><font size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="2">Oh well...maybe they'll throw up some of those "historically appropriate" junk auto hoods to make up for it!!!</font></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 06:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Some hard questions... : I BELIEVE THE ANSWER LIES IN ASKING...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 6:15am<br /><br />I BELIEVE THE ANSWER LIES IN ASKING THE MIDDLETOWN HISTORICAL SOCIETY WHICH DESIGN IS THE MOST ACCURATE FOR THE S. MAIN ST. AREA. THEY SEEM TO BE THE EXPERTS ON THIS SUBJECT, RIGHT MIKE?  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> THIS COULD EASILY BE DONE, OF COURSE, BASED ON THE MANY PICTURES MIKE FOUND IN HIS INVESTIGATION ON GAS LIGHTS THROUGHOUT MIDDLETOWN'S HISTORY. <br /><br />AS AN OPTION, WE COULD ALWAYS ASK THE MULLIGANS AND KOHLERS AS THEY SEEM TO BE AMONG THOSE LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS. THEY WOULD KNOW THE APPROPRIATE LIGHTING FOR THE TIME PERIOD. ]]>
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   <title>Some hard questions... :    Which fixture will it be...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">409</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;07&nbsp;2013 at 10:58pm<br /><br /><font size="1">Which fixture will it be on S. Main St.?<div></div><div><img src="uploads/259/IMG_0457.jpg" height="253" width="190" border="0" />&nbsp;<img src="uploads/259/IMG_0466.jpg" height="253" width="190" border="0" />&nbsp;<img src="uploads/259/IMG_0459.jpg" height="253" width="190" border="0" />&nbsp;<img src="uploads/259/IMG_0461.jpg" height="253" width="190" border="0" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Fixture types&nbsp;#1 &amp; #2 are installed in the Sunset Park / Aberdeen Dr. area.</div><div>Type #2 are primarily installed in the Highlands area.</div><div>Type #3 is currently installed on MainSt. &amp; part of Central Ave. in downtown.</div><div>Type #4 is currently installed on part of Central Ave. downtown.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>S. Main residents originally referenced the lights in the Sunset/Aberdeen area. (#1 &amp; #2)</div><div>Then Mr. Tadych referenced the lights on N. Main. (#3)</div><div><a href="http://blip.tv/tv-middletown/middletown-ohio-city-council-business-meeting-july-19-2011-part-&#111;ne-5394123" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blip.tv/tv-middletown/middletown-ohio-city-council-business-meeting-july-19-2011-part-one-5394123</a></div><div>Is the two headed fixture #4 a possibility? Of course these only use 2x the electric.</div><div>Or maybe there is a mystery fixture in our future.</div><div>The fixtures to be installed &amp; exact number have not been identified to my knowledge.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div></font>]]>
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   <title>Some hard questions... : What a can of worms they have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1299">over the hill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5071<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;07&nbsp;2013 at 8:23am<br /><br />What a can of worms they have opened.]]>
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