Middletown Forum : Agenda 3.5.2013 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Agenda 3.5.2013 Tue, 06 Oct 2026 09:07:12 +0000 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:40:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5094 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Agenda 3.5.2013 : Journal story......Home >... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37139&title=agenda-352013#37139 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 12 2013 at 6:40am

Journal story......

Home > NewsPosted: 3:48 p.m. Monday, March 11, 2013


MIDDLETOWN

City Council OKs street, lighting projects

Residents in the city’s Historic South Main Street District said the installation of decorative street lights this year will make their neighborhood safer.

HORSE MANURE

City council supported 5-0 both a repaving project and the lighting project

DISAPPOINTING MR. LAUBACH AND MS. SCOTT-JONES. THOUGHT YOU WERE CHAMPIONS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AND NOT INCLINED TO CATER TO THE SMALL CONTINGENT OF INNER CIRCLE CLIENTELE. YOU DO REALIZE YOU WILL BE JOINING US IN HELPING PAY FOR THESE PRIVILEDGED PEOPLE, DON'T YOU? THE REST OF THE CITY IS NOT TREATED WITH THE SAME "ENTHUSIASM" AS THE S. MAIN ST. CLAN. YOU KNOW BETTER THAN TO SUPPORT THIS IDEA. YOU CAVED AGAIN. YOU JUST HELPED THE VERY PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE AFFORDED THE WHOLE COST AND CREATED A HARDSHIP FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT. WHAT IS YOUR REASONING FOR SANCTIONING PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY ARE WORTHY OF SPECIAL TREATMENT?]]> Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:40:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37139&title=agenda-352013#37139 Agenda 3.5.2013 : HICKMAN LAWN CARE CONTRACT3 YEAR... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37103&title=agenda-352013#37103 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 08 2013 at 1:44pm

HICKMAN LAWN CARE CONTRACT

3 YEAR TOTALS
2013……………………..$340,846.00
2014……………………..$350,613.50
2015……………………..$350,613.50
GRAND TOTAL……...$1,042,073.00

THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT. A MILLION BUCKS FOR THREE YEARS TO MOW GRASS (PARKS, WEATHERWAX, (OR DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LAWN PEOPLE?) AND MEDIANS???), MAYBE MULCH SOME BEDS/REPLACE BUSHES PERHAPS?????WHAT DID "WE THE PEOPLE" GET FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT? 350 GRAND A YEAR???? HOW MANY OF YOU (ME INCLUDED) THINK WE ARE IN THE WRONG BUSINESS?

IS THIS IN THE REALM OF BEING CORRECT? THINK THERE'S ENOUGH RETIREES/YOUNG PEOPLE WITH RIDING MOWERS THAT COULD DO THIS FOR A SUMMER AND EARN SOME EXTRA CASH AT FAR LESS ON THE WAGES?]]> Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:44:55 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37103&title=agenda-352013#37103 Agenda 3.5.2013 : HICKMAN LAWN CARE CONTRACT3 YEAR... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37102&title=agenda-352013#37102 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 08 2013 at 12:17pm

HICKMAN LAWN CARE CONTRACT

3 YEAR TOTALS
2013……………………..$340,846.00
2014……………………..$350,613.50
2015……………………..$350,613.50
GRAND TOTAL……...$1,042,073.00

The above estimated totals are based on the number of mowing times shown; however, city staff determines actual mowing frequency and will increase or decrease the mowing as weather conditions dictate.  Usually the annual mowing costs fall within this range.

 

General Fund covers approximately 43%, Auto & Gas Tax covers 47%, Storm Fund covers 6% and Water Fund covers 4% of the mowing budget.

Why is money being removed from the Storm Fund and the Water Fund to pay for mowing?

Why do we have all these separate Restricted Funds if the money can be used for whatever City Hall wants or needs.

Once again this is a perfect example of why we have no money left in the fund for the separation of our sewer system.



]]> Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:17:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37102&title=agenda-352013#37102 Agenda 3.5.2013 : Mike_Presta wrote: SHEESH!!!... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37084&title=agenda-352013#37084 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 08 2013 at 5:00am

Originally posted by Mike_Presta Mike_Presta wrote:

SHEESH!!!  Don't they teach them anything at Harvard???
I must apologize to everyone for this remark!!!
 
I am truly sorry and did not intend to cast any aspersions upon the oldest institute of higher education in the United States.
 
I hope that everyone understands that while Harvard, any other Ivy League school, and virtually all other public and private institutions of higher education in America are capable of teaching a multitude of things, none of them...not even Fenwick High School...can teach common sense!!!
]]> Fri, 08 Mar 2013 05:00:23 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37084&title=agenda-352013#37084 Agenda 3.5.2013 : This is beyond me!!! Park... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37078&title=agenda-352013#37078 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 07 2013 at 9:39pm

This is beyond me!!!  Park & Rides by definition are NOT meant to be built at destinations!!!

Are these people crazy...or just stupid???  Park & Rides are meant to be built at less congested areas (for example in the suburbs or at cities' edges where parking space is NOT at a premium) so that cars can be parked and mass transit can be taken into congested areas where parking IS at a premium!!! 

Now these people are saying that they want more parking space so they are putting in a Park & Ride?!?!?  What are they gonna do let the inner city people park there and then bus them to Towne Mall when it gets redeveloped???

If they think parking is at a premium, they should put a Park & Ride out near I-75, or in Franklin or Monroe and bus them IN to downtown Middletown, not have them park in downtown Middletown to bus them OUT!!!

SHEESH!!!  Don't they teach them anything at Harvard???
]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:39:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37078&title=agenda-352013#37078 Agenda 3.5.2013 : On the issue of parking, it's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37075&title=agenda-352013#37075 Author: Neil Barille
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 07 2013 at 11:02am

On the issue of parking, it's like deja vu with most things downtown -- "CART, MEET HORSE".  Before worrying about parking I would think the business owners have about 10 other issues on their plate that are more important.  Like...um...customers!]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:02:38 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37075&title=agenda-352013#37075 Agenda 3.5.2013 : Amen,Stanky http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37074&title=agenda-352013#37074 Author: over the hill
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 07 2013 at 10:13am

Amen,Stanky]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:13:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37074&title=agenda-352013#37074 Agenda 3.5.2013 : A "vision" that is dictated... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37072&title=agenda-352013#37072 Author: Stanky
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 07 2013 at 10:06am

A "vision" that is dictated by what free money you can grab is not a vision at all. ]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:06:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37072&title=agenda-352013#37072 Agenda 3.5.2013 : "This lot back here is full... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37071&title=agenda-352013#37071 Author: ktf1179
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 07 2013 at 9:45am

"This lot back here is full every day,” said Rumford, who’s business is next to Cincinnati State Middletown. “They’re only going to continue to grow. And if they put an RTA stop, it’s greater transportation options for the students.”"

Dear Deborah,

Very few good things have come from the RTA, expect moving some criminals from Dayton to the other parts of the area. All you got to do is talk to the area business around the Dayton Mall to find this out. When I use to work at Circuit City, we would routinly have people get off the bus, steal from us, and get back on the bus and go home. That is why the City of Springboro keeps fighting to keep the RTA out of it's city. Let;s hope a connection to the RTA does not happen
]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:45:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37071&title=agenda-352013#37071 Agenda 3.5.2013 : "If you build it, they will... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5094&PID=37070&title=agenda-352013#37070 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5094
Posted: Mar 07 2013 at 9:33am

"If you build it, they will come. Maybe". MAYBE as in speculating without facts.

"Nancy Griffith, owner of Mockingbirds, a cafe inside the Pendleton Art Center at Central Avenue and Broad Street, said she knows more parking might be needed in the future if downtown continues to develop, but she’s a bit hesitant about the need right now"

"MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE IF.....IF DOWNTOWN CONTINUES TO GROW"

AGAIN SPECULATING VOID OF FACTS

"but at this point, I’m not certain. It could in theory bring people that wouldn’t normally be headed this way.”

"I'M NOT CERTAIN"

"Denise Hamet, the city’s economic development director, said the marketing and the potential sale of the Manchester Inn and growth of Cincinnati State Middletown and other downtown businesses and facilities “are already creating more demand for parking"

HOW DOES ONE STATE "ARE ALREADY CREATING MORE DEMAND FOR PARKING" WHEN THE MANCHESTER IS VACANT WITH NO BUYER AND HAS YET TO HAVE ACTIVITY AND CS HAS ONLY HALF THE STUDENTS SIGNED UP ACTUALLY ATTENDING CLASSES DOWNTOWN? MORE EMBELLISHED SPECULATION WITHOUT ACTUALLY SEEING RESULTS.

“We think this only will increase in the future, so we’re really only trying to plan ahead,” she said

WE "THINK".......

"Hamet said the lot’s owner Elizabeth Ligon was closing the car wash business there and the city saw an opportunity to purchase the land and avoid another vacant structure downtown"

HAMET, THERE ARE MORE VACANT STRUCTURES DOWNTOWN THAN OCCUPIED ONES. GIVEN THAT FACT, WHY PURCHASE ANOTHER PROPERTY ON SPECULATION? HAVEN'T WE ALREADY TRIED THAT?......AND HOW'S THAT WORKED OUT FOR YOU TO DATE? WE ARE ALREADY GIVING SPECULATION BUILDINGS AWAY FOR A BUCK.

“We thought this was a really good opportunity to leverage city resources,” Hamet said

WHAT?

"Deborah Rumford, co-owner of Rumford Productions and The Music Club downtown, said there is quite a bit of downtown parking, but agrees with Hamet that it’s likely not enough to satisfy the growth that’s expected downtown"

THE GROWTH "EXPECTED"- MORE SPECULATION

AND WHAT HAPPENS IF ALL OF THIS ANTICIPATED GROWTH DOESN'T HAPPEN OR HAPPENS AT SUCH A SNAILS PACE THAT THIS ACTIVITY WASN'T REALLY WARRANTED?

"And with a park and ride, Rumford said people’s perceptions of a struggling downtown may be changed"

YEAH, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE PERCEPTION OF THE STRUGGLING DOWNTOWN. A PARK AND RIDE. SURE.

“This lot back here is full every day,” said Rumford, who’s business is next to Cincinnati State Middletown. “They’re only going to continue to grow. And if they put an RTA stop, it’s greater transportation options for the students.”

AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE CURRENT TERMINAL AND SURROUNDING PARKING ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WOULDN'T ACCOMODATE THE STUDENTS? IT'S ONLY A BLOCK UP AND OVER. NOT A LONG WALK AT ALL. USE THE CURRENT TERMINAL AND STOP BUYING MORE PROPERTY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE USED.

WOULD ANY OF YOU PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT LIKE THIS?




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