Middletown Forum : City Owned Property http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : City Owned Property Tue, 06 Oct 2026 21:06:35 +0000 Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:43:54 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5128 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ City Owned Property : lol when I was being courted... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37327&title=city-owned-property#37327 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 22 2013 at 7:43am

lol
when I was being courted to provide a food market in that area, I was told that I was not going to be able to have any
on-site parking
figure out that one
 
it is getting crazier down there by the day, while the rest of the city(where actual self-functioning businesses exist)
is totally ignored
 
and these people want to micro-manage the arrangements for re-do of the east end mall??
 
no f'n way
]]> Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:43:54 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37327&title=city-owned-property#37327 City Owned Property : Even worse than that, Kohler... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37325&title=city-owned-property#37325 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 11:22pm

Even worse than that, Kohler beats normal businesses over the head making them provide more parking than they think they need before they can even apply for a permit.  Then he makes them use half of the parking spaces for "landscaping" to hide their business from the public so potential customers can't even find the place!!!
 
I love this town.
]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:22:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37325&title=city-owned-property#37325 City Owned Property : Pacman wrote: Why is... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37324&title=city-owned-property#37324 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 11:17pm

Originally posted by Pacman Pacman wrote:

Why is it the City's (aka Residents) responsibility to provide parking for CS?  Let CS cover the cost of purchase and rehab.
 
PacmanCool
Excellent observation, Pacman!!!
 
I brought that exact point up with someone earlier today.  What do you think Gilleland and the Council would say if you or I needed additional parking for a business that we owned, and asked them to provide it for us free of charge???  I'm sure that they'd fall all over themselves to "move", "second", and vote "YES" for us, right???
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]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:17:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37324&title=city-owned-property#37324 City Owned Property : Why is it the City's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37321&title=city-owned-property#37321 Author: Pacman
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 7:58pm

Why is it the City's (aka Residents) responsibility to provide parking for CS?  Let CS cover the cost of purchase and rehab.
 
PacmanCool
]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:58:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37321&title=city-owned-property#37321 City Owned Property : Good point about the tanks. In... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37309&title=city-owned-property#37309 Author: Stanky
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 11:13am

Good point about the tanks. In which case I'm surprised the city gave Ligon anything. The should've played hardball with Ligon and warned that the EPA could come a'callin.]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:13:36 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37309&title=city-owned-property#37309 City Owned Property : Stanky wrote:I don't think... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37303&title=city-owned-property#37303 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 9:50am

Originally posted by Stanky Stanky wrote:

I don't think this particular purchase is a bad one. Relatively small amount of $$ and a chance to control the usage on a parcel that is very close to Cincy St.


That's fine Stanky, let the city purchase the property, but let the game play out with the owner and EPA with the potential work of removing the tanks and knocking down a dilapidated structure BEFORE the city purchases the property rather than the city (taxpayers) incuring the cost of removal. (Again, why should the taxpayer pay for property prep for sale), for what a private property owner is responsible for? As far as we know, the property is still deeded to Ligon's daughter, right? Let her handle the prep to sell. It may not be a "small amount of money to purchase" if you include the potential building teardown and removal of tanks for EPA compliance.]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:50:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37303&title=city-owned-property#37303 City Owned Property : Stanky,I think the big issue... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37301&title=city-owned-property#37301 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 9:25am

Stanky,
 
I think the big issue on the investment and price is what it will take to clean it up.  If the underground tanks are still there, they have to be removed.  This would be very costly.  I have not heard anything mentioned from the city stating they are not there - which kind of makes me wonder what they are hiding. 
]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:25:27 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37301&title=city-owned-property#37301 City Owned Property : I don't think this particular... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37300&title=city-owned-property#37300 Author: Stanky
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 9:06am

I don't think this particular purchase is a bad one. Relatively small amount of $$ and a chance to control the usage on a parcel that is very close to Cincy St.]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:06:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37300&title=city-owned-property#37300 City Owned Property : Today's Journal...continuation... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37299&title=city-owned-property#37299 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 7:58am

Today's Journal...continuation of Laubach's objection to the city owning property....



Council members Ann Mort and Joe Mulligan said the property will benefit the future of the city.

“Whether the city is in or out of the land business, the city ends up with land because people walk way from them whether we want it or not,” Mort said

NO THEY DON'T. IF THE OWNER WALKS AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY GOES INTO FORECLOSURE AND THE BANK TAKES POSSESSION OF SAID PROPERTY TO RESELL IT. THE CITY ISN'T FORCED TO TAKE THE PROPERTY. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THE CITY WOULD OWN AN AWFUL LOT OF HOUSES IN TOWN TOO. WHY DOES MORT AND MULLIGAN THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED AT ALL IN UNWANTED PROPERTY. THAT IS BETWEEN THE OWNER ON THE DEED AND THE LENDING INSTITUTION AND A PRIVATE MATTER. NONE OF THE CITY'S BUSINESS....BUT THEY WANT TO MAKE IT THEIR BUSINESS IF THE LAND SUITS THEIR PLANS. STILL DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY THE CITY INSISTS ON ACTIVELY PURSUING REAL ESTATE INVESTMENTS USING TAXPAYER MONEY WITHOUT TAXPAYER CONSENT.

Mulligan said the purchase “is a relatively small investment” with a few benefits, including a better aesthetic look and making it ready for development in the future

ON THIS PROPERTY IT MAY BE A SMALL INVESTMENT MULLIGAN BUT HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE ENTIRE THATCHER PURCHASE PACKAGE. THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T A SMALL INVESTMENT AND ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS GIVE AWAY MOST OF IT. WHAT DID THE PEOPLE GAIN BY USING THEIR MONEY FOR THE LAND PURCHASES?

“I respect Josh’s position that the city needs to be more careful,” he said, “but I think we’re just trying to provide a setting of redevelopment

ANOTHER WAY OF MULLIGAN SAYING "I WILL LISTEN TO JOSH JUST TO BE POLITE, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA DO AS WE DAM WELL PLEASE". ]]> Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:58:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37299&title=city-owned-property#37299 City Owned Property : Correct VetWhile the land fits... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37291&title=city-owned-property#37291 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 5128
Posted: Mar 20 2013 at 3:31pm

Correct Vet
While the land fits squarely among city property and alleged needs,
The cost of tank removal and EPA approval makes it an expensive
purchase/re-hab at a time when we are supposedly cash-strapped.

Then again, the current owners can't afford the fix
(Unless someone else really owns the property)]]> Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:31:35 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5128&PID=37291&title=city-owned-property#37291