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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN :   You&amp;#039;re absolutely right....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1408">processor</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;09&nbsp;2013 at 4:44pm<br /><br />You're absolutely right.&nbsp; I missed that in the description.&nbsp; Thanks&nbsp; I see your point now for the homeowners.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Seems kind of silly to me to move perfectly good ball fields and pay to rebuild them when they could stay where they are.&nbsp; The middle school could have two "fronts".&nbsp; One facing Manchester, or Breiel,&nbsp;and the other facing the "open concept" ball fields, etc.</div>]]>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN :   processor wrote:Vet,Why do...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;09&nbsp;2013 at 2:12pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by processor" alt="Originally posted by processor" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>processor wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br /><br />Vet,<div>Why do you think that the new middle school would be built where the ball fields are?  Have you seen the plans?  I always assumed that the middle school would be built where the current Manchester is but I haven't seen the plans.</div><div> </div><div>Regarding the athletic facility I thought that the plan was to, through private funds, re-hab Barnitz Field and move a lot of it there.</div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />TAKEN FROM THE JOURNAL STORY.....<br /><br />"Preliminary sketches have included placing the new middle school on the current softball and baseball fields and rebuilding the diamonds on the corner of Breiel Boulevard and Manchester Road to create an open concept."<br /><br />IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEREFORE, BACKUP TO THE BACKYARDS OF THE HOUSES THAT BORDER THE DIAMONDS. CORRECT?<br /><br />AND WITH THE BALL DIAMONDS OUT BY MANCHESTER ROAD, WON'T THERE BE SOME FOUL BALLS TARGETING CARS?<br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN :   Vet,Why do you think that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1408">processor</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;09&nbsp;2013 at 12:59pm<br /><br />Vet,<div>Why do you think that the new middle school would be built where the ball fields are?&nbsp; Have you seen the plans?&nbsp; I always assumed that the middle school would be built where the current Manchester is but I haven't seen the plans.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Regarding the athletic facility I thought that the plan was to, through private funds, re-hab Barnitz Field and move a lot of it there.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN : WAS THERE ANY DOUBT.....Plans...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 6:23am<br /><br />WAS THERE ANY DOUBT.....<br /><br />Plans move ahead for new middle school<br />Middletown to create campus with middle school next to high school.<br /><br />MIDDLETOWN — <br />The school district’s facilities master plan is officially updated with plans to build a new middle school next to the high school.<br /><br />The school board on June 24 approved an amended master plan to reflect the change. The plan had previously called for the two-story middle school to be built on the 39-acre site of the former George M. Verity Middle School on Johns Road.<br /><br />George Long, business manager, said the high school’s 45-acre site on Breiel Boulevard can now accommodate a middle school because the district plans to demolish the Manchester and Tiger Ellison buildings. The services and classes offered in those buildings will be moved into the high school once an additional 75,600 square feet of classroom space is added<br /><br />WONDER WHAT THE LONG TIME ATHLETIC SUPPORTERS OF MIDDLETOWN SPORTS THINK ABOUT TEARING DOWN THE FOOTBALL COMPLEX DEDICATED TO TIGER ELLISON? AND PRAY TELL, WHERE WILL THE BALL DIAMONDS GO? SOCCER FIELD? FOOTBALL PRACTICE FIELD? <br /><br />ALSO WONDER HOW THE PEOPLE IN THE SUBDIVISION NEXT TO THE BALL DIAMONDS WILL LIKE LOOKING AT THE LARGE 2 STORY BUILDING THAT WILL BE PLACED IN THEIR BACKYARD? KINDA CUTS DOWN ON THE VIEW, RIGHT?<br /><br />I LIKE THIS FROM MCNEIL.....<br /><br />Board member Katie McNeil said she’s been receiving lots of comments and feedback from residents on the revised construction plan.<br /><br />“It’s great to see that there’s excitement here, positive reaction and optimistic reports of how this can benefit our students to have a campus of a middle school and high school together,” McNeil said.<br /><br />YES INDEED, EVERYTHING'S ALRIGHT IN MIDDIELAND ACCORDING TO MCNEIL INCLUDING EXCITEMENT, POSITIVE REACTIONS AND OPTIMISTIC REPORTS.....IT DON'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS. QUESTION....DID SHE ASK ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT SHE KNEW WOULD GIVE HER THESE REACTIONS OR DID SHE BOTHER TO ASK PEOPLE OUTSIDE HER "COMFORT ZONE" FOR THEIR OPINION? IF SO, HOW DOES SHE KNOW THAT THIS IS THE TRUE PULSE OF THE COMMUNITY? ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2013 06:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN : Still not sure why the need to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1354">enough is enough</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;10&nbsp;2013 at 11:35am<br /><br />Still not sure why the need to put a weight room at Barnitz? Took a tour of Edgewood High School their weight room is incorporated into the new gym where all student athletes have access to use the facility. There is also a weight room at &nbsp;Middletown Middle School that only the high school basketball team gets to use. Why not combine all the weight equipment that we presently have so that all athletes and phys ed classes have access to this equipment?]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 11:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN : Processor,Thanks for theclarification.Enough...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1405">itsamee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;09&nbsp;2013 at 9:00am<br /><br />Processor,&nbsp;<div>Thanks for the&nbsp;clarification.</div><div><br></div><div>Enough is enough,&nbsp;</div><div>I agree with your comments on Vail. &nbsp;That building is well beyond&nbsp;usefulness. It is a beautiful classic building, but it cannot come close to dealing with today's codes. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Vet, &nbsp;</div><div>I understand what you are saying as well. It is hard to look at the "climate" and think, "lets pour more money into the system!" &nbsp;I really wish there was a better way to fund schools. The current setup seems ridiculous. As a property tax payer, it is unfair to us to foot pretty much the entire bill. That being said, I try and look beyond what is fed to us from the paper and even the state. The "report cards" etc that come out are kind dumb. &nbsp;They basically assure a district teaches to the test and then punishes the district and its students for failing to meet certain&nbsp;criteria&nbsp;beyond its control. &nbsp;For example, why do we punish the student with the 4.0 gpa because another student has chosen to drop out or fails the test because they dont care?&nbsp;</div><div>Its a paradox and one has to vote based on their own opinions.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 09:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN :   Itsamee, we have been pushing...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;09&nbsp;2013 at 8:57am<br /><br />Itsamee, we have been pushing off the need for a new operating levy by reducing our expenses to match the reduction in state and federal revenues. We should not need a new operating levy in the next few years if the assumptions we are making in our five-year forecast hold true, but alot depends on things outside our control, like the state budget for education.&nbsp; We are making additional cuts now for the next school year because we expect to lose 1.2 million in federal funds as a result of sequestration. If you would like more detailed information about our finances, you could watch the first part of our May 6th board meeting, which will be shown on TV Middletown and you can also link to a video of it from our website. Also on the website is the 5-year forecast document. Go to middletowncityschools.com, board of education, Board Docs, then choose the May 6 2013 meeting.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Enough is enough, I believe the 45 acres refers to the size of the entire high school site.&nbsp; There are several ways to fit in a new middle school, but the layout that was shown to us that appears to make the most sense was to put a middle school (with a middle school practice football field)&nbsp;where the baseball and softball fields currently are, and then move those ball fields over to the corner where the Manchester building and its parking spaces are right now. That would group most of the athletic areas together in a park-like setting. The Manchester building would come down. An addition would be built on to the front of the high school for the classroom space that is currently used by high school students at Manchester, resulting in a much better security situation. A new competition gym for basketball would be built next to the existing high school gym (the state standards allow&nbsp;for two high school gyms&nbsp;for a student body the size of Middletown).</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 08:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN : I like everyone else do not want...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1354">enough is enough</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 10:26pm<br /><br />I like everyone else do not want to see my taxes go up. However if you have not walked the halls of the middle school lately it has long passed its time. The track above the old gym was deemed unsafe, the wiring is pitiful at best, The restrooms are not in the best of shape. Etc. Etc.<div>As far as reaching those indicators, what makes you think the grades are going to go up when the city is attracting nothing but people looking for a free hand out such as section 8. In order to raise test scores you actually have to have a clientele that actually gives a dang about education.</div><div><br></div><div>Ms. Andrew&nbsp;</div><div>The forty-five acres at the high school is this the property that Manchester Tech currently sits on or is this where the baseball fields are located just looking for some clarification?</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN :   Other elementary schools are...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 8:00pm<br /><br />Other elementary schools are bearing the burden of High View being changed to a sixth grade center.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 20:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>10 YEAR PLAN :   Itsamee,I would be suprised...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1408">processor</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5246<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;08&nbsp;2013 at 4:44pm<br /><br />Itsamee,<div>I would be suprised if the school board put two levy's on the same ballot.&nbsp; By law it would have to be two issues since the money cannot be comingled.&nbsp; The last I heard the board wanted to put the bond issue on the ballet soon so that the district would have the funds in place once their number was called by the state.&nbsp; However, this was put on hold until the state resolves how much their contribution will be.&nbsp; Since Middletown started in the program the tax base has dropped so much that Middletown now qualifies for more state funds.&nbsp; However, current law requires that Middletown stay at the 26%.&nbsp; If our state representative has&nbsp;success in changing the law the bond levy may be for very little money.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I would&nbsp; be suprised if the board would be pursuing additional operating money for at least a few years.&nbsp; However, a lot will depend on the outcome of the state budget.&nbsp; Kasich had proposed additional money for districts such as Middletown but the legislature appears to be reducing the amount.&nbsp; The more the district can get from the state, the longer they will be able to hold out and not ask for addtional operating money.&nbsp; They have done a great job reducing their budget, my recollection is over $6 million per year reduction, but at some point they will need additional money since their costs will increase but their revenue won't.</div><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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