Middletown Forum : Citizen Comments Rules http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Citizen Comments Rules Tue, 06 Oct 2026 13:00:45 +0000 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:27:21 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=536 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Citizen Comments Rules : I think Citizens comments will... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2031&title=citizen-comments-rules#2031 Author: John Beagle
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 03 2008 at 9:27am

I think Citizens comments will take off soon. People have to gather their courage before they put their foot in their mouth.

Give it a few months. Citizens will have their say.
]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:27:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2031&title=citizen-comments-rules#2031 Citizen Comments Rules : They may as well take the meeting... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2030&title=citizen-comments-rules#2030 Author: Pacman
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 03 2008 at 9:20am

They may as well take the meeting back upstairs.  Most citizens have to work and can't be at City Hall by 5:30.  The 5:30 start time is to early and just another roadblock to citizens input.]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:20:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2030&title=citizen-comments-rules#2030 Citizen Comments Rules : Journal article -Sept 3-Marconi... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2028&title=citizen-comments-rules#2028 Author: VietVet
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 03 2008 at 7:27am

Journal article -Sept 3-Marconi says that "a person may get mad at what a council person may say and come running down to city hall to complain". Schiavone says that "you need to be careful of what you say". Armbruster says that having the comments at the end of the meeting is taking away from family time.( He would have said something about his parks too if there would have been time allowed) Anita Scott-Jones says that she's always been a proponent of citizen's comments and that she didn't need Marconi speaking for her (with all due respect, of course). Reading this article was like reading a script from a soap opera. Each person said their lines- each person had their own agenda- and none of the conversation connected, had any substance to it, or was relevant to substantive topics about running this city. His mayorship, Lawrence Mulligan. Jr. (don't forget-The Third), Ford(will she ever contribute anything?) or Tax Master Becker apparently had nothing to offer as they were not mentioned in the article. This group of council members reminds me of the beginning phase of the old "You Tube"- Laura Williams, Bob Wells era of dysfunctional/carnival atmosphere type talk. This group apparently can't seem to form a consensus in public about a simple topic such as citizens comments. No wonder they can't tackle and solve more complex problems like fixing/funding the streets or getting decent jobs in here. The circus continues and is in town twice a month. Stay tuned.]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:27:52 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2028&title=citizen-comments-rules#2028 Citizen Comments Rules : Folks I think it is more of the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2025&title=citizen-comments-rules#2025 Author: Pacman
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 02 2008 at 1:55pm

Folks I think it is more of the Council not wanting the "gotcha factor" when it comes to questions.  Many questions asked by citizens on the spur of the moment can not be answered fully or only get partial token answers.
 
I agree it is sometimes hard to get answers from council unless you hit them in Public, it is unfortunate that the Middletown Journal does not do an adequate job when it comes to city matters and its newspaper.
]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:55:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2025&title=citizen-comments-rules#2025 Citizen Comments Rules : I can hardly wait. It's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2023&title=citizen-comments-rules#2023 Author: Middletown News
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 02 2008 at 10:43am

I can hardly wait.
 
It's like sound off, only in person.
]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:43:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2023&title=citizen-comments-rules#2023 Citizen Comments Rules : "Intelligent discontent is... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2022&title=citizen-comments-rules#2022 Author: arwendt
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 02 2008 at 10:41am

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization. Progress is born of agitation. It is agitation or stagnation." - Eugene Victor Debs
 
To not allow some form of open public dialogue with council would be a mistake in my opinion.
]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:41:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2022&title=citizen-comments-rules#2022 Citizen Comments Rules : Tazman- I see no harm in standing... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2021&title=citizen-comments-rules#2021 Author: VietVet
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 02 2008 at 10:29am

Tazman- I see no harm in standing before council and asking, point blank, without grandstanding, questions concerning the funding and the gameplan on fixing our streets. I see no harm in asking them, since I've seen no action from them, questions on how they plan to create job development in this town. I see no harm in asking them about how they plan to attack the overabundance of housing in this area. And I certainly believe that it should be done one on one/face to face with the understanding that they will provide a response at that time from each member. The days of "we'll get back with you on that" are wearing mighty thin to some of us. They need to accomodate the citizens that they are suppose to serve. As it is now, they are dictating how it will be. They are suppose to be understanding and execute the way the people want their town.I want my questions answered. I don't give a damn about the grandstanding nor the people who do it.]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:29:28 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2021&title=citizen-comments-rules#2021 Citizen Comments Rules : Actually the ranting,raving,idiocy,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2020&title=citizen-comments-rules#2020 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 02 2008 at 10:23am

Actually the ranting,raving,idiocy, showboating and grandstanding originated WITH Council bickering among themselves publicly. Their petty squabbles and personal conflicts set our city backwards for a good five years. Failure to control themselves and weak/unwilling mayors have plagued these sessions.
 
After the citizens endured months/years of public tantrums, the public assumed similar conduct to be acceptable public behavior, and such was tolerated by our mayors. Abuse of time limits, topics etc. is mainly a Council responsibilty, though the citizens must do better this time.
 
Let's don't scapegoat the public for poor past behavior of our mayors and Council.
 
This is the citizens' only venue for questions and comments.
Such dialogue SHOULD be made possible, followed with attention and welcomed. 
 
Let Mr.Murphy go NOW.
He serves no real purpose as a 30-day lame duck, other than to collect salary/bennies.
Seems he has been working for this Cincy outfit all along, globetrotting supposedly at their expense, however on our time. Probably need to examine the city's relationship with this organization also, and keep Mr.Murphy totally out of the mix with municipal dealings.
 
jmo
]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:23:07 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2020&title=citizen-comments-rules#2020 Citizen Comments Rules : no--that's not the purpose... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2018&title=citizen-comments-rules#2018 Author: Tazman
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 02 2008 at 9:26am

no--that's not the purpose of citizen's comments. Everyone knows the purpose of citizen's comments is to rant, rave and make the people of Middletown look like the idiots they seem to be and confirm to everyone outside of Middletown just that.

If you want to have a dialog with a city council member doing it in citizen's comment is not the place to do it.

Here we go again.....let the showboating, over stating grandstanding begin!]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:26:39 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2018&title=citizen-comments-rules#2018 Citizen Comments Rules : VietVet wrote:They just don't... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=536&PID=2017&title=citizen-comments-rules#2017 Author: .308
Subject: 536
Posted: Sep 02 2008 at 8:56am

Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

They just don't want to get involved with the people do they?
 
If that's the case they picked the wrong job or we elected the wrong council
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