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   <title>School Spending : Vet:You&amp;#039;d be surprised to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 9:15pm<br /><br />Vet:<div><br></div><div>You'd be surprised to learn how little homes on the east side are actually worth today!!!</div><div><br></div><div>Ask someone who has actually tried to sell one!!!</div>]]>
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   <title>School Spending :   Mike_Presta wrote:Vet:You left...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 8:58pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" alt="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mike_Presta wrote:</strong><br /><br /><div><font size="2">Vet:</font></div><div><font size="2"><br /></font></div><div><font size="2">You left out one of the most important lines in The Journal's story about Ison's speech to City Council.  It was found in the last paragraph of the article:</font></div><div><font size="2"><br /></font></div>&lt;blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"&gt;<div><font size="2">For every<u> $59,000 </u>of home market value, <u>the average home price in the city</u>, the levy would cost the homeowner $84 a year. Ison said volunteers are gathering at 9 a.m. Saturday to begin a door-to-door campaign. He said those volunteers will identify themselves to residents.</font></div></blockquote><div><font size="2"><br /></font></div><div><font size="2">$59,000!!!!  The<strong><em> <font color=""#ff0000"">"average home price"</font></em></strong> in our city is down to <strong><em><font color=""#ff0000"">$59,000!!!!</font></em></strong> This is due to the misguided leadership Middletown has been plagued with in recent decades.  </font></div><div><font size="2"><br /></font></div><div><font size="2">Our home values will only continue to decline unless serious changes are made at City Hall.</font></div><br /><br /><br /><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />WHY AM I HEARING THE ELVIS SONG "IN THE GHETTO" AS I READ YOUR POST? THE  BOYS AND GIRLS AT CITY HALL HAVE INCLUDED ALL OF US INTO THEIR GHETTOLAND THEME HAVEN'T THEY. WONDER WHERE ISON GOT THE $59,000 AVERAGE PRICE FOR THIS TOWN? CAN'T TOUCH MANY HOUSES ON THE EAST SIDE FOR THAT CAN YOU? MUST BE A TON OF PROPERTY IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN THAT ARE DRAGGING THE OLD AVERAGE WAY DOWN. THE PRICE ONES PAYS FOR NOT FOCUSING ON THE WHOLE TOWN AND SINGLING OUT ONLY ONE AREA FOR ATTENTION. WONDER HOW OLE LES LANDEN FEELS ABOUT HIS PROPERTY VALUE DECLINE OVER ON EDITH DR. AND GILLELAND ON ANTRIM CT? HOW ABOUT SCOTT-JONES ON CENTRAL? ADKINS IN MASON ISN'T CONCERNED, NOR ARE MULLIGAN AND KOHLER AT THEIR PROTECTED LOCATION. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 8:50pm<br /><br />Mike, without taking the time to pull it from historic records in the Journal archive, Bill Becker and Dave Durisch at the time, ran the 2.25% tax campaign premised on about $100 Mm needed to repave the entire 600 mile plus range of streets in Middletown. This outrageous building levy, which I also recall was pitched initially at about $65 Mm, now at $90 Mm +, is equivalent to paving the entire city of Middletown.<br><br>So Ison, the Board, and Donham Abbey think the home owner should pass a 90 Mm levy for a building when student performance has been stuck with no improvement, declining student population, and the equivalent of what was required to repave all of Middletown because of the diverted school infrastructure funds.<br><br>And to attempt to comprehend this to be an emergency, when city council WILL NOT put back a percentage of funds for infrastructure? Numbing.<br><br>If this levy passes Marty Kohler will get his wish. Middletown's population will be decreased by 13,000-15,000.<br><br>What stupidity; a school levy when houses are in decline, school performance anemic, and the city dumping the golf course a $1.00 giveaway for $500,000 in expenditures.<br><br>These people have destroyed Middletown, and taxation will not restore it. <br><br>In typical fashion, their only plan for revenue is taxes, and the resident in quick sand, as the corporations have left for much greener pastures.<br><br>Defeat it.&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 8:05pm<br /><br /><div><font size="2">Vet:</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">You left out one of the most important lines in The Journal's story about Ison's speech to City Council. &nbsp;It was found in the last paragraph of the article:</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: n&#111;ne; padding: 0px;"><div><font size="2">For every<u> $59,000 </u>of home market value, <u>the average home price in the city</u>, the levy would cost the homeowner $84 a year. Ison said volunteers are gathering at 9 a.m. Saturday to begin a door-to-door campaign. He said those volunteers will identify themselves to residents.</font></div></blockquote><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">$59,000!!!! &nbsp;The<b><i> <font color="#ff0000">"average home price"</font></i></b> in our city is down to <b><i><font color="#ff0000">$59,000!!!!</font></i></b> This is due to the misguided leadership Middletown has been plagued with in recent decades. &nbsp;</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Our home values will only continue to decline unless serious changes are made at City Hall.</font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 3:03pm<br /><br />Hopefully, these Journal comments reflect the majority. Get that absentee ballot and VOTE NO:<br><br><span ="cmListItemCount">18 Comment(s)</span>                <div ="cmPaginati&#111;nC&#111;ntainer">                    <span ="cmPaginati&#111;nResults">Comment(s) 1-18 of 18</span>                    </div>                                <div ="cmList comments_list">                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982052">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/justabitcrazy/" border="0" alt="justabitcrazys avatar" title="justabitcrazy" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by justabitcrazy at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982052/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 5:36 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982052" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>One of the best things to brag about is the graduation rate of your students and the ratings of your overall school district, not how close you are to a college campus.  Who brought this idiot in to run the schools...</p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982149">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/Heraclitus/" border="0" alt="Heraclituss avatar" title="Heraclitus" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by Heraclitus at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982149/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 6:06 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982149" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>The Superintendent knows even less about Economics than he does about Education. Middletown's lagging economy will not be stimulated by 3 gymnasiums in proximity to each other...hey wait! why not put a cover over Central Avenue and build a mall?  Middletown is consistently on the bottom tier for quality of education and this administration wants the local citizens to piss away more of what they already don't have to build him a gym...good luck passing that levy. <br><br>The old High School on Girard  may be the best building they have (and it has 2 gyms Woooo!), don't buy into scare tactics about THAT being the reason people are leaving... look instead at what this administration has not done to educate children.</p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982165">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <br>                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">&nbsp; <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/BarneyRubble/" border="0" alt="BarneyRubbles avatar" title="BarneyRubble" />                            </li></ul></div></div></div><div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982285">Posted by BarneyRubble at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982285/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 7:10 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer"><div ="cmComment"><ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982285" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>Heard this before: "we need this for the children" ?  But after every levy is passed they always seem to give themselves more raises. Middletown Sam Ison is currently making $126,000 a year. His salary will increase to $138,000 next year and then to almost $150,000 the following year. It's never about the children, it's all about enriching themselves. Not to mention any building project will use Steed-Hammond-Paul as architects who always give thousands to the pro-levy campaigns. It's like pay to play. </p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982338">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/TomCat007/" border="0" alt="TomCat007s avatar" title="TomCat007" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by TomCat007 at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982338/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 7:26 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982338" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>Mr. has inversely made a terrific point.  If the Middletown City School District could perform any worse, it would a reason for selling my property.....if I could find a buyer.  How many levies, building programs, grants have been given to the district during the past 12 years???  Now for the litmus tests: How much higher is the graduation rate? How much lower is the need for discipline including suspensions or referrals to alternative schools? How many new buildings and ball fields does it take to raise GPA's?  How long should taxpayers wait to see a reasonable return on investment (ROI)?How much money should taxpayer funnel into a defunct system that never improves versus save for food, shelter, clothing, medical, tutors, college?  Children need more support at home for general living provisions.<br></p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982363">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/TomCat007/" border="0" alt="TomCat007s avatar" title="TomCat007" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by TomCat007 at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982363/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 7:45 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982363" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>One more brief point, just in case someone want to play demographics or poverty cards.  Even Dayton and Cincinnati districts have shown more improvement on the Ohio Score Card in recent years.  Middletown generally meets 2-5 indicator requirements each year.<br><br>Also, my comments are NOT against the children or education but they are against the long running squandering of money and resources that are meant prepare the children for college and life.<br><br></p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982373">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/Ricks2524/" border="0" alt="Ricks2524s avatar" title="Ricks2524" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by Ricks2524 at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982373/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 7:50 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982373" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>Levies are cure-alls for everything.. blah blah blah</p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982607">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/TyphoidMary/" border="0" alt="TyphoidMarys avatar" title="TyphoidMary" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by TyphoidMary at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982607/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 9:34 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982607" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>I wonder which classes at MHS are "the current trend for college credit" offered to the few students that might take advantage. I would bet the number of students wouldn't break 30.<br><br>I agree with Tomcat,  At what point do the property owners start holding the administration accountable for poor ratings? Throwing more hard earned tax dollars at it is clearly not the answer.<br><br></p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982626">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/rocoforce/" border="0" alt="rocoforces avatar" title="rocoforce" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by rocoforce at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982626/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 9:47 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982626" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>The best way to save money or bring up our education level would be to begin at the top.  There is a "good ol' boy" club and they are doing things in THEIR own best interests, not the school districts.  Look up the history of Libby Lolli (Dr. Elisabeth Lolli).  How many jobs has she been fired (asked to leave) in her past.  She was let go(left) from Monroe because she is incompetent in her abilities. So Middletown City Schools wants the "best for our children" yet they continue to hire second rate hacks who have no clue how to run an academic program.  She was given a 3 out of 5 on “provides adequate data to support budgetary requests" that's better than 50% but shouldn't we expect more from our school leadership?  They want to add $84 dollars per house based on the average current house price in Middletown.  But ask yourself, why are house prices so low in Middletown? Because NOBODY wants to send their kids to our horrible school system.  Everybody loves the Lakota school system and that's why people move there.  Middletown has some great homes, and some not so great.  But should't our average home price be higher than $59,000?  Don't ever think home prices have nothing to do with the school district.  It does, people move to areas where their kids will excel in the local school district.<br></p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982650">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/ben&#111;ni/" border="0" alt="ben&#111;nis avatar" title="ben&#111;ni" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by benoni at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982650/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 9:55 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982650" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>May 6, my vote is NO. All they know how to do in Middletown is tear down. How is it that building in Europe are still being used after 300-400 years +? Don't come to my door.</p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982758">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/PrivateSector/" border="0" alt="PrivateSectors avatar" title="PrivateSector" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by PrivateSector at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982758/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">11:07 p.m. Mar. 19, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982758" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>There is never enough money for the schools no matter how many levies are passed.<br><br>Why pass another, it won't be enough and the hand will be out for more next year.<br><br>Anybody that votes for a school levy is a fool.</p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982880">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/Judsba/" border="0" alt="Judsbas avatar" title="Judsba" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by Judsba at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982880/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 3:51 a.m. Mar. 20, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982880" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>Two things.  It may be radical, but levies are levied by property taxes, right.  I think that those who DO NOT pay taxes on property SHOULD NOT be able to vote on levies, plain and simple !  Second, the parochial schools provide excellent educations with no taxpayer dollars, right ?  (they are operated with tuitions, donations and other sources)  VOTE NO ON THE LEVIES and make the schools survive on what they already have, like we, the taxpayers do !   </p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1982946">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/UncleAndy2/" border="0" alt="UncleAndy2s avatar" title="UncleAndy2" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by UncleAndy2 at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1982946/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 6:56 a.m. Mar. 20, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1982946" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>It is nothing short of criminal for the piggly wigglies at Middletown to be talking about a tax levy when they are wasteful spenders of their current resources, and do a poor job of educating children.<br><br>The teacher salaries there are the second-highest in our area. Only the free spending criminals in Lakota outdo Middletown in teacher salary. Check it out:<br><br>Average salaries for Butler County teachers<br> Teacher salary average  for 2010-11 school year:<br><br>Lakota $63,505<br> Middletown $58,683<br> Fairfield $58,628<br> Ross $57,137<br> Hamilton $56,551<br> Talawanda $55,863<br> Edgewood $55,160<br> Monroe $54,489<br> Madison $50,765<br> New Miami $48,262<br><br>And what are taxpayers getting for these princely expenditures? Not much, it would appear. Middletown, which spent $8,733 per student, scored lower than state averages on recent standardized tests, a 74 percent in the performance index and a 33 percent in the indicators met, the lowest of any area district.<br><br>Every employee at Middletown City Schools should get a 10% haircut on the next paycheck. That will balance the books. And employees should get another 10% haircut next year if student performance does not improve. <br><br>The cuts should start with Superintendent Greg Rasmussen, who makes $130,000 a year to turn in inferior results. What a racket! <br><br>SOURCES:<br><br>http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/teacher-salary<br><br>http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/spending-doesnt-equate-to-higher-test-scores/nfC8N/<br><br>http://www.journal-news.com/news/hamilton-news/more-teachers-getting-second-jobs-in-sluggish-economy-1289928.html<br><br>http://uncleandystruthemporium.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/piggly-wiggly-oinker-school-superintendents-are-getting-rich-on-your-dime/</p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1983066">                                                <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment"><br></div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1983175">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/justabitcrazy/" border="0" alt="justabitcrazys avatar" title="justabitcrazy" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by justabitcrazy at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1983175/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 9:15 a.m. Mar. 20, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1983175" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>Andrea these students can still take those classes whether they are next door of down the street from the college campus.  What did Middletown students do a few years ago, when Cincinnati State was not located in Middletown just not go.  No, those who want to better themselves will find a way to achieve what they want, so maybe you need to look in the mirror before pointing the idiot finger.</p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1983275">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/taxpayeralways/" border="0" alt="taxpayeralwayss avatar" title="taxpayeralways" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment"><br></div>                        </div>                                            </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1983279">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <br>                            </div>                                                                    </div>                                        <div ="cmListItem cmClearfix" id="1983669">                        <div ="cmAvatar">                                                        <img src="http://www.journal-news/profile/avatar/GoofyJim/" border="0" alt="GoofyJims avatar" title="GoofyJim" />                            </div>                        <div ="cmCommentC&#111;ntainer">                            <div ="cmComment">                                <ul ="cmComments cmClearfix"><li>                                                                                                                        Posted by GoofyJim at <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/middletown-superintendent-levy-would-make-a-differ/nfGsp/#/comment/p1/c1983669/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">12:38 p.m. Mar. 20, 2014</a>                                                                                </li><li ="sprite ic&#111;nFlagged">                                            <a -cid="1983669" ="re_abuse">Report Abuse</a>                                        </li></ul>                                                                <p>This just amazes me every time another school tries to justify more money. If I am not mistaken there was just an article that the amount they spend on each child does not improve performance. Though I am sure the ones that back these levies will say the article was completely wrong. Secondly, did any one notice what they are using for the value of a house per $84 per hear. <br><br>I wish by law they had to go by the average price of the homes in the area to determine how much the levy would cost. <br><br>If I am not mistaken the teachers here are paid 2nd highest in the area and no improvement in performance but I am sure the students they have to deal with can be pretty interesting that is why I would expect this school or Hamilton to pay the highest wages and Lakota to be one of the lowest paid. (Oh boy I can hear the ones at Lakota now.)<br><br>Lastly, instead of keep coming back to the tax payer’s maybe they should bug the elected officials in Middletown to bring in businesses.<br>If I am not mistaken the teachers here are paid 2nd highest in the area and no improved performance. Makes you go hmmm. Though I would expect this school or Hamilton to pay the highest wages.<br><br>Lastly, instead of keep coming to the tax payers maybe they should bug the elected officials in Middletown to bring in business. If businesses were brought into the area you would see more tax money, things kinda work that way for your information teachers and government. </p>                            </div>                        </div>                                            </div>                    </div>&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Paul Nagy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 12:57pm<br /><br />Please <u>heavily</u> consider the things Acclaro has pointed out here. This is an outrageous <u>tax</u> (don't be fooled) and all involved ought to be ashamed to propose it, especially under present circumstances. If this is passed you will pay and Middletown will end up in desperate circumstances anyway. Vote NO! Tell those who come to the door&nbsp; to tell their leaders to do what is right for Middeltown's future and support public safety, Infrastructure and economic development.<br>Paul Nagy<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 12:46pm<br /><br />With Superintendent Price, the false selling point was the "Middletown Promise"' recall the free credits with MUM the district was working with MUM on that never came to fruition. <br><br>Now it is putting the Middletown school, high school, and MUM together creates a "Middletown Destination" for basketball, volleyball, sporting events, that will create Middletown as a destination?&nbsp; If there was not so much money at stake in the sinking Titantic this would be laughable, a form of levity.<br><br>At least the Middletown Promise in concept, had teeth. This sales pitch is as poor as the district he represents. <br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 12:06pm<br /><br />While it comes as no surprise the city council would allow the school district to make a pitch to get publicity and camera time on TV Middletown, it is absolutely appalling, indeed vulgar, city council would have the audacity to vote yes on a huge tax increase using the property "pizza" tax while letting the streets and infrastructure to crumble. Frankly, its outrageous and revolting.<br><br>Further, the levy is unconscionably expensive, and one of the highest in memory.<br><br>Consider the cost for these intervals:<br><br>100,000 property value- PAY 151.00<br><br>150,000 property value- PAY 214.00<br><br>200,000 property value- PAY 285.00<br><br>250,000 property value- PAY 356.00!<br><br>300,000 property value- PAY 427.00<br><br>What does the city, school system, and MUM/ C State have in common? OPERS retirement fund, unions, waste, and double and triple dip benefit.<br><br>Brick and mortar is a selling point for the worst performing school district in southwestern Ohio? How dumb does the school board, Ison, and city hall think you are? <br><br>CONSIDER:<br><p>Having the middle and high school students that close to a college would be “one of the best things to brag about,” Ison said. He said the plan has the possibility to “rejuvenate our town.”</p><p>Ison said if a middle school was built, it would give the district three gymnasiums in the same vicinity, and the district would attract athletic tourneys that would draw fans and stimulate the local economy.</p><p>Passing the bond issue would “make a difference in the future of Middletown,” he said.</p><p>And possible add to the district’s dwindling enrollment. Ison said there are 1,500 students who live in the Middletown district who don’t attend Middletown schools for various reasons. Ison said the condition of the nearly 100-year-old Middle School often is a reason given by parents.</p><p>“That’s crucial,” said Ison, adding losing those students costs the district $8.7 million to its general fund.</p><p>That’s why he said May 6 “is so important.”</p><p>REBUTTAL:</p><p>If having a high school and MUM within walking distance did nothing to bring more students to either, and certainly not Middletown High. If the intersection of the three was so important, why did they turn Manchester Middle School into a Butler Tech hub?</p><p>Ison is COMPLETELY wrong the building will create demand in Middletown; rather, it will destroy your property values. Do you thing paying 285.00 in tax on a 200,000 house will stimulate the sell of your declining property valuation? Please- think wisely. This is an outrageously aggressive tax increase. This will end up making Middletown one of the highest taxed areas (property tax) in Ohio, in a city that property values are continuing to decline, not rebound.</p><p>What is the purpose of the levy? A desperate 'Hail Mary' attempt to keep losing students fleeing the district.</p><p>FACT- students leave Middletown because of perfromance, NOT the added time to drive to Vail.</p><p>What are the two most over-used words in city hall and school district vernacular? "hope", "might", "possibility."</p><p>Only fools would vote for this levy, or OPER members, construction union workers, and civil engineering surveyors.</p><p>Thumbs Down on this outrageously expensive levy. Isn't asphalt more important folks than wasteful buildings that won't provide any benefit to enrollment nor ranking. I just spent $500.00 replacing my motor mounts from a city pot hole; better take the 356.00 in annual taxes and use that for car repairs from what the city DOES NOT maintain, than a passive building adding no valuation to property, demand, quality of life, and when a greater need exists, called city "INFRASTRUCTURE". &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br></p><p><br></p><br>&nbsp; &nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=555">bumper</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 11:08am<br /><br />ISON SALES PITCH, is just plain stupid! and more than a good reason to vote NO!!! really don't think Lebanon is missing him.. or marty  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> or judy <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5651<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;20&nbsp;2014 at 9:10am<br /><br />Hey! Another gem about the upcoming bond levy......<br /><br />Middletown superintendent: Levy would make a difference in schools, city<br /><br />MIDDLETOWN — <br />Calling it “a selling point for our community,” Middletown City Schools Superintendent Sam Ison asked City Council to endorse the district’s $55 million bond issue, a 4.0-mill bond issue and 0.26-mill permanent improvement levy<br /><br />Ison said by closing the Middletown Middle School, and building a new school on the high school property, all students in grades seven through 12 would attend school on Breiel Boulevard, across the street from Miami University Middletown. He envisions a day when a walking bridge would be built over Breiel.<br /><br />YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. WHAT HAS "BEING CLOSE TO MUM" GOT TO DO WITH YOUR SCHOOLS? IS THERE MAGIC IN THE AIR THAT WILL TRANSFER FROM MUM ACROSS BREILE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL? AND JUST HOW WILL THAT COMBINING THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL HELP THE CAUSE? DOES IT MATTER WHETHER THEY ARE SEPARATE OR COMBINED? <br /><br />Having the middle and high school students that close to a college would be “one of the best things to brag about,” Ison said. He said the plan has the possibility to “rejuvenate our town.”<br /><br />COMICAL. WE WOULD "BRAG ABOUT" THE HIGH SCHOOL BEING CLOSE TO MUM? WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? AND HOW WOULD THIS "CLOSENESS" REJUVENATE THE TOWN?  LET'S FACE IT, ISON AND THE PRO LEVY PEOPLE WILL SAY ANYTHING, TO THE POINT OF EMBARRASMENT, TO GET THEIR LITTLE LEVY PASSED. <br /><br />Ison said if a middle school was built, it would give the district three gymnasiums in the same vicinity, and the district would attract athletic tourneys that would draw fans and stimulate the local economy<br /><br />MERCY.<br /><br />Passing the bond issue would “make a difference in the future of Middletown,” he said.<br /><br />DID PASSING THE BOND ISSUE FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS "MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE FUTURE OF MIDDLETOWN".  NOPE. DIDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE SCHOOL PERFORMANCE EITHER.<br /><br />And possible add to the district’s dwindling enrollment. Ison said there are 1,500 students who live in the Middletown district who don’t attend Middletown schools for various reasons. Ison said the condition of the nearly 100-year-old Middle School often is a reason given by parents.<br /><br />“That’s crucial,” said Ison, adding losing those students costs the district $8.7 million to its general fund.<br /><br />That’s why he said May 6 “is so important.”<br /><br />He said the levy is “bigger than me,” then added: “It’s about our future, folks.”<br /><br />MY ISON, SUCH DRAMA. "BIGGER THAN ME"? "IT'S ABOUT OUR FUTURE"? <br /><br />MAYBE THE DISTRICT IS LOSING PEOPLE DUE TO THE REPUTATION AND PERFORMANCE RATHER THAN THE AGE OF THE BUILDINGS. COULD THAT BE THE REAL REASON? <br /><br />INCREDIBLE SALES PITCH. <br /><br />READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN THE JOURNAL ARTICLE AND SEE THE OVERALL TREND IN THINKING CONCERNING ISON'S COMMENTS. HE HAS JUST TRIPPED OVER HIMSELF IN ATTEMPTING TO SELL HIS LEVY. <br /><br /><br />]]>
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