Middletown Forum : VOTES FOR LEVY http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : School Tax Issues : VOTES FOR LEVY Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:32:27 +0000 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:52:42 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5740 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ VOTES FOR LEVY : Riveter and company.....IF history... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=43105&title=votes-for-levy#43105 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 24 2014 at 11:52am

Riveter and company.....

IF history is accurate and the proficiency results, the lack of any significant measureable progress from the recent new schools that have been built and the lack of progress toward the half way point in indicators are to be predicted, I think most all of us will see nothing for our money......again, in the coming years. Has anything that the school district offered, in the last several decades, meant anything other than stagnated mediocrity? Where are the schools in comparison to a decade or two ago? About the same, right? New supers haven't done anything. New schools/new learning environments haven't done anything. New methods adopted haven't opened any eyes, right? More levy money doesn't seem to be the answer as to changing anything. At the bottom two decades ago....at the bottom now with property values, quality and image slowly sinking in the west.

All of us have contributed, either willingly or unwillingly, toward the school effort over the years, and, with the exception of those who would offer numbers that mean nothing in the overall scheme of things, those who would see goodness in any catastrophy and those who are in total denial concerning reality, most of us continually see the same old stagnated pond of water that is the Middletown school district.

Most school board members will vehemently disagree that the house of cards fell long ago. That is expected as they have to play the part of "authority support/PR for the schools". Most teachers and admin will deny any downward trend as it is their livelihood they are trying to protect. And most pro-levy supporters will provide resistance to those who would criticize because they love sponsoring the perennial loser at the track while continually throwing their money down the "it'll get better if you just keep giving us what we want" hole of promises.

These people apparently do not think it necessary that they see any dividends on their investment. As a matter of fact, amazingly, they are quite satisfied, and are willing to give more, if absolutely no progress is made at all.

And now we wait for the flak from the school board members and the school supporters, who will offer the same non-producing, non-changing, non-logical arguments they have been playing on the taxpayer for years. Have their ideas and game plans been successful? Just look at the data and lack of improvement in any area you wish to find the answer to that question.

If these people would only open their eyes and realize it is time to acknowledge the reality that it is a futile effort in it's current state.   ]]> Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:52:42 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=43105&title=votes-for-levy#43105 VOTES FOR LEVY : I'm glad I voted against... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=43104&title=votes-for-levy#43104 Author: buckeye43719
Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 23 2014 at 9:10pm

I'm glad I voted against the levy. The only thing people cares about is sports. I have never voted for a school tax levy in Middletown and never will.]]> Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:10:19 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=43104&title=votes-for-levy#43104 VOTES FOR LEVY : 22 votes!!!!! It's laughable... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=43103&title=votes-for-levy#43103 Author: RRiveter
Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 23 2014 at 4:46pm

22 votes!!!!! It's laughable now! Gave a good fight but in the end all of you "Yes voters" will see what you've allowed to happen!!!

MCSD could have received MORE money from the state due to the "poor" tax valuations that our district is in... but since they decided to bully everyone with LIES, look at the end result!

And to top it all off, the VERY DAY BEFORE votes were in the front page story was how we are in the RED!!!

Hello, is this thing on?

You bought yourselves a new Ferrari and won't be able to afford insurance or tires!!!!

So when there's a problem on the bus at 7 am with a 12 year old and a 17 year old, just remember you voted yes for this!

When you drive down Girard and see a HUGE green field that has litter scattered all over it, and possibly a MECCA for crime, drug activity and who else knows, YOUR VOTE REALLY DID COUNT!

Way to go. Way to keep DOWNTOWN BEAUTIFUL! You keep moving things farther away from where the heart of this town is... Get it together.

Hoping one day to find unity. Until then, this place is NOTORIOUS for putting the cart before the horse. When you're at the bottom, the only way to go is up. <---- We'll see.]]> Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:46:59 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=43103&title=votes-for-levy#43103 VOTES FOR LEVY : Ms. Moon: I have no clue. I don&#039;t... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42986&title=votes-for-levy#42986 Author: chmoore1
Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 07 2014 at 10:25pm

Ms. Moon: I have no clue. I don't have any affiliation with the schools, other than being a resident. just 1chmoore.]]> Sat, 07 Jun 2014 22:25:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42986&title=votes-for-levy#42986 VOTES FOR LEVY : The 30-40 individuals I have spoken... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42985&title=votes-for-levy#42985 Author: acclaro
Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 07 2014 at 8:19pm

The 30-40 individuals I have spoken cannot believe the schools cost more than paving all of Middletown, and the voters made buildings a priority over infrastructure. 'Moving forward' has a new meaning: 'moving to a new city'.
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Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 07 2014 at 6:14pm

chmoore
Since Verity School is in the wrong neighborhood and MSB will be needing money why hasn't this property been
placed on the open market and sold?
This is a total waste of taxpayers money to let this school just sit and rot away.]]> Sat, 07 Jun 2014 18:14:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42984&title=votes-for-levy#42984 VOTES FOR LEVY : Also, be forewarned: I WILL be... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42981&title=votes-for-levy#42981 Author: chmoore1
Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 07 2014 at 5:29pm

Also, be forewarned: I WILL be bringing this topic up periodically, until the assurances are made. Now, just 1chmoore.]]> Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:29:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42981&title=votes-for-levy#42981 VOTES FOR LEVY : Now that the planning and design... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42980&title=votes-for-levy#42980 Author: chmoore1
Subject: 5740
Posted: Jun 07 2014 at 5:26pm

Now that the planning and design of the new middle school will be underway, it would be nice to get the assurance from the board and superintendent that several "treasures" will be incorporated in the new/remodeled buildings. Among these are the statues of Abe and George, and the stone "wisdom sayings" on the exterior of the building (auditorium, gym, etc.). The statues should be easily moved. NO ONE should personally profit from these unique items. No "backroom deals," no "handshake purchases," no "silent"---or even public---auctions of these. On this topic, I am MORE than just 1chmoore.]]> Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:26:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42980&title=votes-for-levy#42980 VOTES FOR LEVY : Ok ktf, say we go along with the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5740&PID=42657&title=votes-for-levy#42657 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5740
Posted: May 24 2014 at 7:31pm

Ok ktf, say we go along with the yes voter game plan and bulldoze Vail and build a brand new middle school by the high school while adding to the high school. Great, you will get what you want.......again.

Picture this scenario:

The new middle school is in place and functioning and the high school is enjoying it's new found additional space. All the latest gimmicks and gadgets including air conditioning and benches to massage the students so they can feel good about their school experience, new gyms for all the sporting activity which pleases Ison because we will have many gyms across the street from MUM as he sees his sports mecca taking traction with mutiple mega events. It is educational utopia for the Middletown city schools and nary a cloud in the sky.

Everyone is happy at the school board. Super Ison is smiling daily, Marcia Andrew is feeling good about things and ch is happier than he has been in years. All the school supporters have their day.

BUT WAIT.....how will all of these yes voters explain that the kids aren't doing any better in this latest version of the Taj Mahal....JUST AS THEY ARE DOING NOW AND HAVE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS IN THE NEW TAJ MAHAL ELEMENTARIES THAT WERE BUILT. ACCOUNTABILITY BE DAMMED! WE ONLY CARE THAT THE KIDS ARE COMFY AND IN A NEW ENVIRONMENT. WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' IMPROVEMENT. DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HIGH ON THE LIST OF IMPORTANCE NOR EVEN MENTIONED AS A CONCERN. NEW SCHOOLS ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT COMES OUT OF 'EM, DON'T CHA KNOW!


IF THAT HAPPENS, and history tells us that it will, WE WILL HAVE BEEN TAXED FOR THESE NEW SCHOOLS, and, once again, will not have gotten jack squat for our money as to any benefit......ALTHOUGH THE KIDS WILL HAVE AIR-CONDITIONING AND BE "ALL COMFY" WHILE THEY PERFORM AT A LOW LEVEL.

DOES ANYONE IN THE YES VOTE CAMP CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEW SCHOOLS AFTER THEY ARE BUILT OR IS EVERYONE SO WRAPPED UP WITH GIDDY DELIGHT THAT WE HAVE A FEW MORE NEW SCHOOLS AND DON'T CARE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE EFFORT WAS?

HOW ABOUT THE NEW SCHOOL SUPPORTERS PUT AS MUCH INTEREST IN WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE DAM NEW SCHOOLS AS THEY DO IN GETTING THEM BUILT.



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Subject: 5740
Posted: May 23 2014 at 9:12pm

Vet I do agree with you on most of your points about taxes and holding people responsible. However I had to split with you on this issue mainly due to the fact that the community, does have an obligation to provide a decent place for education, much like we had when we went to school. True we may not of have had A/C and internet when we went to school, but they are a fact of life now. Much like the community also needs to provide support, services and a building to it's senior citizens, which I also voted for. 
The fact of the matter is the middle school has lived a good life, and it could of lasted longer if it was maintained by prior school boards, sadly that did not happen. So we could either let the middle school stay as is, and let things in the school slowly deteriorate and get more expensive trying to maintain, or build a new middle school with help from the state that is more efficient, and is capable of being added to in the future.



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