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   <title>Swallens Update : Jonathan:   Further to my original...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 5:10pm<br /><br /><FONT size=1>Jonathan:</FONT> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT size=1>Further to my original post, consider this quote from Ms. Gilleland's 10/10/2008 Weekly newsletter:</FONT></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT size=1>"</FONT><FONT size=1>As Council knows, this festival continues to be supported by the City. In addition to the $10,000 cash contribution, we also provide $10,000 cash in postage and copying costs. Our City crews also work 3 weeks prior to the festival and a week afterward.</FONT><FONT size=1>"</FONT></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Swallens Update : Mike:  Good point if it was...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=106">Middletown News</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;14&nbsp;2008 at 11:30am<br /><br />Mike:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Good point if it was the citiy's hangars. Not sure that is the case, but I don't know for sure. </DIV><DIV>Why would Mr. Runford complain about the lack of police assistance at the event? Again, I don't&nbsp;know for sure, but I did consider the source. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Swallens Update :   Jonathan Haller wrote:HereIam:...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;14&nbsp;2008 at 5:22am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jonathan Haller" alt="Originally posted by Jonathan Haller" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jonathan Haller wrote:</strong><br /><br />HereIam: <DIV>Also I am very disapointed in the City for not supporting Middfest. This is not what we need. I understand that the airport people helped out with hangar space for free.</td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Uh, Jonathon, aren't the airport facilities owned by the City???&nbsp; And didn't the City Manager compliment the city staff&nbsp;by saying:&nbsp;"Our crews are doing a great job of <strong><EM>balancing the special activities</EM></strong> with the storm clean-up"???</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I'm not trying to start an arguement, but it is difficult for me to understand how anyone can say that they are "disapointed in the City for not supporting Middfest"!!!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>PS:&nbsp; If you answer this, please don't expect a reply very soon.&nbsp; I am not ignoring you, but I will only have sporadic internet access for the next couple of weeks.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Swallens Update : HereIam: I think Mr. Rumford...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=106">Middletown News</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;13&nbsp;2008 at 4:21pm<br /><br />HereIam:<DIV>I think Mr. Rumford is more correct than you think. We have increased our hotel room number, yet many hotels in the area were filled to near capacity from the looks at the parking lots.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also restaurants greatly benefited too.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Congratulations to Middfest organizers, this was a excellent event!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also I am very disapointed in the City for not supporting Middfest. This is not what we need. I understand that the airport people helped out with hangar space for free. Way to go!</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Swallens Update : drumford - where do you get the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=40">HereIam</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;13&nbsp;2008 at 11:14am<br /><br /><P>drumford - where do you get the figure that Middfest filled every hotel room in the city?&nbsp; I would bet my last dollar that if you asked the Best Western, the Ramada Inn or any hotel at I-75 they would tell you a different story.&nbsp;</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Swallens Update : Yes, with partners. The Levy family,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;07&nbsp;2008 at 7:37am<br /><br />Yes, with partners. The Levy family, I believe and one other partner.]]>
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   <title>Swallens Update : Does Perry own the Manchester?...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">John Beagle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 4:53pm<br /><br />Does Perry own the Manchester?]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Swallens Update : The Swallens building has been...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 1:39pm<br /><br />The Swallens building has been empty for 20+ years.<DIV>Mr.Thatcher has ample opportunity to either buy it or find a renter. He is obviously interested since it sits accross from his failing Manchester Inn and his surrounding properties(the former CG&amp;E building and the two former banks at the corner of Main and Central).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Is tearing the building down prudent at this expense?</DIV><DIV>Probably not, since there is no better proposed use for the site(and the parking garage). The old Montgomery Wards building nearby also might be razed. Sorg, the burned out structure on the river, the un-used bicentennial commons, and the seriously water-damaged and pretty much un-salvageable AK-owned(?) structure across from the Bash location.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>No police protection for Midfest, after supplying the same(on credit) for the air show?</DIV><DIV>Any word if the city has been re-imbursed(or will be) for the air show security yet?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Still--with the market tanking big-time due to the economic disaster heavily fueld by the bail-out(which was supposed to save us!), there will be little cash flow to spur new economic development or business expansion risks.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The up-coming Obama election and the tax grabs to soon follow will only depress the market and business thinking even more. We can bail out the losers forever, though if it destroys the remaining winners, all will be lost.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>jmo</DIV><DIV>Revolution?</DIV><DIV>Will you be the problem or the solution?</DIV><DIV>Kick out the jams, brothers and sisters!</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Swallens Update : Interestingly Middfest was not...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=37">drumford</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 12:49pm<br /><br />Interestingly Middfest was not allowed to use the Swallens building this year unless they could come up with $6,000.&nbsp; Is this a sign that the city is no longer interested in Middfest?&nbsp; They also refused police patrols and lights.&nbsp; Although the event filled every hotel in the area and brought in a much needed boost to the local ecconomy it would appear that Ms. Gilleland does not see the value of the event.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Swallens Update : I agree with Perry. Why spend...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=106">Middletown News</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 581<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;06&nbsp;2008 at 11:03am<br /><br />I agree with Perry. Why spend millions tearing things down. <DIV>What's next, the Manchester?</DIV>]]>
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