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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? :   jsmith2011 wrote:I understand...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;05&nbsp;2014 at 7:01am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by jsmith2011" alt="Originally posted by jsmith2011" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>jsmith2011 wrote:</strong><br /><br />I understand the teacher's union informed the MCSD teachers yesterday that they cannot expect much in the way of more money in the new contract being offered to them because the school district is broke due to mismanagement of money by the board and the treasurer.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />js, I doubt if Ms. Andrew will respond. She and her friends of the schools have what they want. They have a new school being built for them. They have some unexpected money coming back their way. They have all relatively newly built elementary schools in place. Everyone in town seems to be very pleased with the "progress" of the schools at this time as there is no public outcry concerning performance, either scholastic or indicators. All is well in the Middletown schools and it is business as usual. The levy supporters defy logic as to their reasons for their backing of this school system. The bar is almost touching the ground at this point. We move on aimlessly with nary a change in direction on the horizon nor a hope of real progress to be seen. <br /><br />As a side note, in the Journal, there is a video segment on the redo of Barnitz Stadium. In that video, Sam Ison says something about new buildings not making a major difference or something to that affect. Caught me by surprise as this same guy was a major leader in getting the bond levy approved for the new middle school being built. His message seems to be mixed here.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? : I understand the teacher&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=791">jsmith2011</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;03&nbsp;2014 at 8:23am<br /><br />I understand the teacher's union informed the MCSD teachers yesterday that they cannot expect much in the way of more money in the new contract being offered to them because the school district is broke due to mismanagement of money by the board and the treasurer.]]>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? :   What does Avis and MCSD have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1553">Dean</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;29&nbsp;2014 at 10:23am<br /><br />What does Avis and MCSD have in common? They <strong><em><u>try </u></em></strong>harder. But, Avis is number two behind Hertz. MCSD is at the bottom with 600 + Ohio districts ahead. Just give em time. Its only been 15 years now for crying out loud. It takes time.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? :   Thank you Spiderjohn. Believe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;29&nbsp;2014 at 9:24am<br /><br />Thank you Spiderjohn.&nbsp; Believe it or not, the board has been (and will continue to be) focused on improving academics.]]>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? : Thank you for devoting time and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;28&nbsp;2014 at 4:24pm<br /><br />Thank you for devoting time and caring about the children, school system and community, Ms.Andrew. Inspiring, considering the difficult and unpopular decisions that must be made. We all may disagree on the road travelled, however hopefully we all are in synch on the destination.<br /><br />Maybe time to focus more on the educational results of the sacrifice imo.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? :   Vet--Yes, the property owners...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;28&nbsp;2014 at 4:05pm<br /><br />Vet--Yes, the property owners will have to pay less than originally thought at the time of the vote on the bond levy.&nbsp; As I stated, if the OSFC commission members approve what their staff are recommending to us, Middletown will have to borrow bonds in the amount of $45 million, not $55 million as originally planned.&nbsp; That will reduce the millage from approximately 4.0 mils to 3.2 mils. (Again, that is not the official word of the auditor. That is my math that 45 is 82% of 55; 3.2 is 82% of 4.0.)&nbsp; The property tax increase has not been calculated yet, because it does not go into force until the January 2015 tax bills.&nbsp; We hope that we will be able to have the OSFC vote on the new percentage in time for the January bills to reflect the lower bond amount.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Acclaro-- I&nbsp;have no way to verify&nbsp;who you spoke with at OSFC, or what was said. 40 - 45% is of course more than 26% but it is also, of course, less than 64%, which is what the OSFC has now told us they will match.&nbsp; You say you were told that Middletown could receive funding in 3-5 years if the levy did NOT pass.&nbsp; That is basically what I am saying when I say we would have to get in the back of the line.&nbsp; Without any certainty that when we got to the front of the line again, the state would still have money available.&nbsp; Passing the levy kept us in the front of the line, and it seems likely now that we will get more money from the state than the deal the voters approved.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? : Ms. Andrew:&amp;#034;That will increase...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;28&nbsp;2014 at 3:01pm<br /><br />Ms. Andrew:<br /><br />"That will increase the state percentage funding, for only the second phase, to 64%."<br /><br />For clarification.....<br /><br />If the state has increased the amount the district will receive for Phase 2 to 64%, will we property owners have less to pay as was originally thought? Will we see our property tax increase re-calculated or is that an "auditor office question"? Could you tell us an approximate number as to homeowner savings versus the original plan?<br /><br />Thank you.  ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? : As a point of clarity, although...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;28&nbsp;2014 at 2:50pm<br /><br />As a point of clarity, although moot, and not desiring to further a debate on outcomes which may have occurred, I had contact a few weeks before the levy with the chief financial officer within OSFC in regards to the future calculation and predictability of MCSD receiving a higher % state match in the event the levy failed. Further, the question centered upon the time-frame such match would be made available. <br><br>From such discussion, using financial projection modeling forecasts, it was stated the expectation on the subsequent schools, MCSD would receive approximately 40%-45% state match, and typically, when a district levy fails, is placed in a separate category and has availability of new funding via OSFC school match, in about 3-5 years. This came directly from a senior OSFC member. One might argue the cost for capital would increase over 3-5 years associated with inflation, and other factors, but 9 out 10 typically would agree, 40-45% state match, is higher than 26%. <br><br>It is indisputable the state match through OSFC&nbsp; is based upon tax valuation; that is, if a district is poorer compared to a richer district, and all districts are stack ranked accordingly, the % contribution/ match by OSFC is inversely proportional, lower tax base- higher state match.<br><br>My statement is justification for my belief in May, it was better to await a better future match, that had no material detriment to the district, by failing the levy on the contribution of OSFC at that time. It passed, and its history.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? :   Processor&amp;#039;s summary of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;28&nbsp;2014 at 1:58pm<br /><br />Processor's summary of the situation is correct.&nbsp; Middletown was/is locked in to the 2-phase agreement which locks in the 26% state funding rate.&nbsp; We did, unsuccessfully, try to get the percentage increased for the whole 2-phase project, but the legislation was vetoed.&nbsp; The OSFC has now come to us, and not only said they will let us out of the agreement that binds us to 26%, but that they recommend it (both to us and to the commission).&nbsp;&nbsp;That will increase the state percentage funding,&nbsp;for only the second phase, to 64%.<div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Any comments Ms. Andrew? :   I will try to respond to a...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5811<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;28&nbsp;2014 at 1:47pm<br /><br />I will try to respond to a couple of points.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>First, the statements made during pre-election, that if the bond levy failed, the money promised by the state would go away, were and still are correct.&nbsp; If we had not passed the bond levy within 13 months of our "number" coming up, as required by the state, we would have lost the money allocated for Middletown, and gone to the back of the line, with no guarantee of ever getting to the front of the line again.&nbsp; We remain at the front of the line, so to speak, even if we walk away from the 2-phase agreement,&nbsp;BECAUSE we passed the bond levy, and have already received approval of our master plan fromt the OSFC.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Second, the statements made by acclaro and viet vet that the district could somehow get more state money than what the OSFC just proposed to us (64% of just this second phase project), if we didn't pass a bond levy, is not correct, unless they mean that Middletown may&nbsp;continue to slide in property values in relation to other districts, and if the district waits more years to apply, the percentage paid by the state could go up some more.&nbsp; RIght now, the maximum the district can get is what the OSFC just proposed to us -- 64% of the high school/middle school project = $50 million.&nbsp; By far the biggest change in valuation came from the elimination of the business tangible property tax; a small amount comes&nbsp;from Middletown's property values declining more than other districts in the recession.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Third, I don't understand acclaro's comments from Friday about accelerated payments.&nbsp; What accelerated payments? The current recommendation from OSFC that the district drop the 2-phase agreement and switch to a new application for just the second phase, does not accelerate any payments.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Finally, I made many posts prior to the election on my views as to the need for new/renovated school buildings.&nbsp; I have nothing further to say on that.&nbsp; I posted here because I thought Vet had questions about the new development from the OSFC, which I have answered.</div>]]>
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