Middletown Forum : $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal Mon, 05 Oct 2026 18:35:18 +0000 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:01:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5851 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : Dean wrote: Lets go play... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43897&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43897 Author: John Beagle
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 17 2014 at 2:01pm

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Lets go play golf and keep it open?

Maybe a MiddletownUSA outing!

Thumbs Up
]]> Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:01:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43897&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43897 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : Lets go play golf and keep... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43896&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43896 Author: Dean
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 17 2014 at 1:26pm

Lets go play golf and keep it open?]]> Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:26:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43896&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43896 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : From MJ:Weatherwax to remain golf... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43884&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43884 Author: 409
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 16 2014 at 5:02pm

From MJ:
Weatherwax to remain golf course in 2015

Middletown golf pro Jim Kraft signs one-year lease with property owner


MIDDLETOWN —
Weatherwax Golf Course will remain a golf course — at least for another year — after a local golf professional finalized a deal Thursday with the landowner to lease the property through November 2015.

Jim Kraft, of WMVH LLC, signed a one-year lease with Myron Bowling Auctioneers, Inc., to keep Weatherwax open as a golf course. Both parties declined to disclosed the value of the lease agreement, but confirmed that it goes into effect Nov. 3 and runs through Nov. 1, 2015.

Myron Bowling, a Hamilton auctioneer who bought the 36-hole golf course from the city of Middletown for $1.6 million, said Kraft has an option to continue to lease the property “for as many years as he’d like to after that.”

“Everybody wants a golf course, and now it’s a golf course again,” Bowling said in a phone interview with the Journal-News. “If you want it to stay a golf course, then go golf.”

Some residents and local golfers worried that Weatherwax might be leased or sold for some other use. When Bowling closed the deal with the city last month for Weatherwax, he indicated there was a “50-50 possibility” that it could re-open as a golf course next year.

In fact, an auction for the property, equipment and other items was scheduled for Nov. 15, but after the deal with Kraft, the event has been canceled, Bowling said. He said nothing, including golf carts and other equipment, belonging to the golf course has been sold.

Bowling confirmed there were parties other than Kraft interested in Weatherwax, and at least one person had a use other than a golf course in mind for the land located in Madison Twp.

“But that didn’t come to fruition,” Bowling said. “We were on a timeline, and he (Kraft) had a ready offer so we kept it a golf course.”

Kraft, 57, of Middletown, has 28 years of experience in the golf industry, which includes having been a golf pro at Pleasant Hill Golf Club since 1988. He said his motivation for leasing Weatherwax is simple.

“I didn’t want to see it close, and I thought it was a good business opportunity,” said Kraft, who plays Weatherwax about twice a week during the golf season. “When I saw the auction sign up at Weatherwax I asked them in they were entertaining anyone on leasing the golf course, and they said yes.”

Kraft said the deal took about three weeks to negotiate after he first approached Bowling about the lease. He said his next steps will be to familiarize himself with the grounds and course operations.

Kraft said he plans to keep just about everything the same at Weatherwax, but hasn’t made any final decisions about staffing yet. Dave Tieman, the longtime golf professional at Weatherwax, will work his last day there on Nov. 2.

“It’s going to be a privilege to serve our customers and the Middletown area,” said his brother David Kraft. “We are really looking forward to it.”

City Manager Doug Adkins said Thursday any plan that keeps the golf course open and available to the public is great for the citizens of Middletown.

“I hope the course remains open for years to come and wish any operator good luck in their endeavor,” Adkins said in an email to the Journal-News.
]]> Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:02:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43884&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43884 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : Kinda got off topic with a discussion... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43882&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43882 Author: Alien
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 16 2014 at 11:39am

Kinda got off topic with a discussion about Doug's house. I am hearing that a golf course operator has been working with Bowling on a lease for next year but doesn't sound too positive.]]> Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:39:30 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43882&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43882 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : Not sure if this was posted... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43881&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43881 Author: Rhodes
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 15 2014 at 4:03pm

Not sure if this was posted yet or not, but just ran across the listing for Weatherwax up for sale.  $2,250,000

http://www.comey.com/p/5401-Mosiman-Rd-Madison-Twp-OH-45042/mls_cincy/1421906
]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:03:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43881&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43881 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : Speaking of the Sec 8 fiasco:... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43856&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43856 Author: over the hill
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 12 2014 at 6:23pm

Speaking of the Sec 8 fiasco: I suppose most have forgotten the lies and deception on that and we know how that ended. He can blame it all on Judy saying he was just "doing what he was told" but that only goes so far. Too many nasty thing from his office to believe it was all Judy. He loved the power and he's loving this power even more. Saying all the right things to win over as many as he can. Wel'll see if a tiger can change his spots. Sec8 is gone. Officially Nov 1 . Nelson & Nelson gone Jan 1. So I've heard.]]> Sun, 12 Oct 2014 18:23:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43856&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43856 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : spiderjohn wrote:if YOU were... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43854&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43854 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 11 2014 at 6:10pm

Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

if YOU were moving here now with a large family and had Mr.A's income range, where would YOU locate, and how much would YOU spend?
Where would you send your children to school?

just wondering, since we are all pretty familiar with the community--fair ??


Look north and east.....Oaks, Manchester Manor, DiVinci Dr. Areas around Thorn Hill, Rosedale from Milton out to Breiel are nice, older neighborhoods. Dorset, Eaton Dr. McGee- very nice older homes. As swohio mentions, the old hospital area has great appeal. Sadly, as time goes by, the neighborhoods around Euclid and Kensington, once very nice, have lost a step or two in prestige. Like stacked dominos, the neighborhoods starting south and west and heading north and east are falling.

Kids go to Fenwick or Monroe schools if possible. Middletown public is not a choice if quality is important. Too many indicators as to a poor to mediocre education to be had here. Not at all like it use to be. ]]> Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:10:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43854&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43854 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : He will take his glorious time... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43853&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43853 Author: Talking Heads
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 11 2014 at 3:06pm

He will take his glorious time in selecting a new home. After all, HE IS the City Manager. We go by Mr. A-Almighty's rules now, even though we's all know this is just a stepping stone to the next gom'ment job. He continues to hide behind sheep's cloth. He is not a Shepard. Him pushing the sale of Weatherwax in the first place is another Sin, not the success he preaches. He thinks we dumb.
]]> Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:06:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43853&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43853 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : He'll but Bill Akers Sr house... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43852&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43852 Author: acclaro
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 11 2014 at 2:29pm

He'll but Bill Akers Sr house on Rosedale.

He'll send his kids to Fenwick.

He'll watch Middletown continue its decline, while hiring mothpieces, pr interns, ED staff, to tell others how Middletown was in the past, but turning the corner. In other words, same story the past 30 years.

When is the HUD announcement coming by the way, the press release delayed for months.  
]]> Sat, 11 Oct 2014 14:29:40 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43852&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43852 $1.6 Million Weatherwax Deal : spiderjohn wrote:if YOU were... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5851&PID=43851&title=16-million-weatherwax-deal#43851 Author: swohio75
Subject: 5851
Posted: Oct 11 2014 at 1:27pm

Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

if YOU were moving here now with a large family and had Mr.A's income range, where would YOU locate, and how much would YOU spend?
Where would you send your children to school?

just wondering, since we are all pretty familiar with the community--fair ??


It is a fair question.
 
I'd try and stay in the $185-$240k price range.  Really isn't a reason to go beyond that.

As far as neighborhoods, if I were he, I would consider homes around the old hospital and/or the rosedale/milton/fleming area, depending on taste.  I think it would send a good message if he picks an older, more central neighborhood, indicating his has faith in Middletown's established neighborhoods.  It would also put him closer to the City Building. 

As far as schools are concerned, if he purchased a home in Renaissance, kids would go to either Franklin or Lebanon, spending on which section of the neighborhood the house is in.  Personally speaking, I see no issues sending kids to Middletown.  Making education a priority begins in the home, and kids can excel in the MCSD. 


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