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   <title>Zogby: Too Close to Call :   Pacman wrote:         damn...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">arwendt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;17&nbsp;2008 at 2:05pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Pacman" alt="Originally posted by Pacman" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Pacman wrote:</strong><br /><br /><SPAN ="lingo_regi&#111;n"> <DIV><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><T><T><T><T><TR><TD colSpan=2><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 20px" vAlign=top width="99%"><DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>damn feds ain't no better.</FONT></DIV></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/partner.php?source=ap" target="_blank"></A></TD></TR></T></T></T></T></TABLE><!-- line end --><!-- date/author start --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><T><T><T><T><TR><TD colSpan=2><img src="http://www.breitbart.com/images/comm&#111;n/dot.gif" height="3" width="1" border="0" /></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="99%"></TD></TR></T></T></T></T></TABLE></DIV><DIV></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I agree. I started to type more, in order to better explain because even I did not agree totally with&nbsp;that statement, but I am running behind on a few projects and thought I would just leave saving the country up to Spider John. LOL</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Zogby: Too Close to Call :         Arwendt damn Feds...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;17&nbsp;2008 at 1:13pm<br /><br /><SPAN ="lingo_regi&#111;n"><DIV><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><T><T><TR><TD colSpan=2><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 20px" vAlign=top width="99%"><DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>Arwendt damn Feds ain't no better.&nbsp; It is a shame that the greatest country in the world and we can't even run an honest and fair election.</FONT></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>High court rejects GOP bid in Ohio voting dispute</DIV></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/partner.php?source=ap" target="_blank"></A></TD></TR></T></T></TABLE><!-- line end --><!-- date/author start --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><T><T><TR><TD colSpan=2><img src="http://www.breitbart.com/images/comm&#111;n/dot.gif" height="3" width="1" border="0" /></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="99%"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Oct 17 12:26 PM US/Eastern</SPAN><BR></TD></TR></T></T></TABLE></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>WASHINGTON (AP) - The <a href="http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=Supreme%20Court&amp;sid=breitbart.com" target="_blank">Supreme Court</A> sided Friday with Ohio's top elections official in a dispute with the state <a href="http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=Republican%20Party&amp;sid=breitbart.com" target="_blank">Republican Party</A> over <a href="http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=voter%20registrati&#111;ns&amp;sid=breitbart.com" target="_blank">voter registrations.</A> </DIV><P>The justices overruled a federal appeals court that had ordered Ohio's top elections official to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility. <P>Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, faced a deadline of Friday to set up a system to provide local officials with names of newly registered voters whose driver's license numbers or Social Security numbers on <a href="http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=voter%20registrati&#111;n%20&#102;orms&amp;sid=breitbart.com" target="_blank">voter registration forms</A> don't match records in other <a href="http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=government%20databases&amp;sid=breitbart.com" target="_blank">government databases.</A> <P>Ohio Republicans contended the information for counties would help prevent fraud. Brunner said the GOP is trying to disenfranchise voters. <P>In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help <a href="http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=America%20Vote%20Act&amp;sid=breitbart.com" target="_blank">America Vote Act</A> of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility. <P>Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue. <P>About 200,000 of 666,000 voters who have registered in Ohio since Jan. 1 have records that don't match. Brunner has said the discrepancies most likely stem from innocent clerical errors rather than fraud but has set up a verification plan. <P>McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said lower court rulings have clearly said the HAVA regulations require the secretary of state to match against the list, find where there's been fraud and inconsistencies and report them to counties. <P>"Why in the world would that not happen? We have the technology, the budget, the means and the manpower to make that happen. Do we really want to have to find out after the fact that we had counties that would have been decided one way or another because the secretary of state didn't bother doing the job the HAVA required?" Davis told reporters on a conference call. "I think the secretary of state ought to do her job," he added. </SPAN><BR></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">arwendt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;17&nbsp;2008 at 12:54pm<br /><br />Remember over the years how you would hear stories of how costly it would be to update voting machines or reform the system?<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Compared to $700 Billion how costly could it really be. AND if they want to nationalize something how about having the Fed take control of the voting&nbsp;process and get the states the heck away from it?</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;16&nbsp;2008 at 9:29pm<br /><br />Can we spell P-O-T-A-T-O.....ah E.&nbsp; The Quayle Gaff.&nbsp; Now we have the Biden Potato. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq-eeWow_WU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq-eeWow_WU</A></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;16&nbsp;2008 at 9:00pm<br /><br /><FONT color=#0000ff><strong>It is sad that once again Ohio is in the News for all of the wrong reasons, due the incompetent actions of a Public Official.&nbsp; Secretary of State&nbsp; Brunner (D)&nbsp;has simply turned off the connection to verify voter information in the States database system.&nbsp; What is the matter with these people.</strong> </FONT><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><DIV ="timestamp">October 16, 2008</DIV><DIV ="kicker"></DIV><H1><NYT_LINE =" " versi&#111;n="1.0">Ruling May Impede Thousands of Ohio Voters <YT_LINE></H1><NYT_BYLINE =" " versi&#111;n="1.0"><DIV ="byline">By <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/u/ian_urbina/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>IAN URBINA</FONT></U></A></DIV><YT_BYLINE><NYT_TEXT><DIV id=article><P>More than 200,000 registered <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/nati&#111;nal/usstatesterritoriesandpossessi&#111;ns/ohio/index.html?inline=nyt-geo" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>Ohio</FONT></U></A> voters may be blocked from casting regular ballots on Election Day because of a federal appeals court decision on Tuesday requiring the disclosure of lists of voters whose names did not match those on government databases, state election officials and voting experts said. </P><P>The court <a href="http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electi&#111;nlaw/litigati&#111;n/&#100;ocuments/orpvbrunnerenbanc.pdf" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>decision</FONT></U></A> requires Jennifer Brunner, the Ohio secretary of state, to provide the names to local election officials by Friday. Once the local officials have the names, they may require these voters to cast provisional ballots rather than regular ones, and they may ask partisan poll workers to challenge these voters on Election Day. Both possibilities could cause widespread problems when the voters show up at the polls. </P><P>Concerns about those problems led the Ohio Attorney General’s Office to file an appeal of the decision to the <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizati&#111;ns/s/supreme_court/index.html?inline=nyt-org" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>United States Supreme Court</FONT></U></A> on behalf of Ms. Brunner on Wednesday night.</P><P>The state’s appeal went directly to Justice <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/john_paul_stevens/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>John Paul Stevens</FONT></U></A> because he oversees the Sixth Circuit. It argued that the <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizati&#111;ns/r/republican_party/index.html?inline=nyt-org" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>Republican Party</FONT></U></A> had nearly two years to raise complaints about the process of screening voter registrations and failed to do so. Any changes now to the process would disrupt preparations for the election, it contended.</P><P>Federal law requires states to verify voter registration applications with a government database like those for driver’s licenses or Social Security cards. Names that do not match are flagged for further verification. Since Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, the decision will probably affect their party’s supporters disproportionately. Polling in the state shows Senator <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>Barack Obama</FONT></U></A>, the Democratic presidential nominee, with a slight lead on his Republican challenger, Senator <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/john_mccain/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>John McCain</FONT></U></A>.</P><P>Republicans have been angered by reports of voter-registration fraud linked to groups allied with Democrats, like Acorn, a community organizing group with ties to Mr. Obama. This month, the Ohio Republican Party filed a motion seeking to force Ms. Brunner, a Democrat, to hand over the list of all registration applications that had been flagged when checked using the state or federal databases.</P><P>In court papers, Republicans said they wanted the names to file challenges.</P><P>The 50-page decision by the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, in Cincinnati, reversed a 2-to-1 ruling by a three-judge panel of the same circuit last week. </P><P>It remains unclear when access to the lists would be given to local election officials. Before the state’s appeal to Justice Stevens, the appellate judges upheld a lower-court ruling giving Ms. Brunner until Friday to make the list available.</P><P>Social Security data indicate that Ohio election officials found more than 200,000 names that did not match this year; state election officials say their analysis of the data indicates that most of these are individual voters, not duplicate registrations. But Ms. Brunner said that problems with the databases could very well be why the names did not match. </P><P>“Federal government red tape, misstated technical information or glitches in databases should not be the basis for voters having to cast provisional ballots,” said Ms. Brunner, adding that she plans to require that notifications are sent to all voters whose records have discrepancies. </P><P>The Ohio Republican chairman, Robert T. Bennett, called the court ruling “a victory for the integrity of Ohio’s election.”</P><P>“Once again, Jennifer Brunner has wasted valuable taxpayer dollars only to have her partisan agenda rejected by a court of law,” Mr. Bennett said. </P><P>Daniel P. Tokaji, a law professor and voting expert at <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizati&#111;ns/o/ohio_state_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>Ohio State University</FONT></U></A>, said he thought the appellate decision was wrong. He said the stated purpose of the “matching” requirement in the federal law, the 2002 Help America Vote Act, was to accelerate procedures at the polls, somewhat like an E-Zpass lane at highway toll plazas. It was meant to allow voters to avoid showing identification if they had already been screened using database checks, he said.</P><P>The federal matching requirement, Mr. Tokaji said, was not meant to determine eligibility, deter voter fraud or raise added barriers for voters by forcing some to vote provisionally. “The majority judges don’t seem to grasp this point,” he said.</P><P>There is a real risk of large-scale challenges of voters on Election Day, said Richard L. Hasen, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, but he added that any effort to use the list to purge the rolls before then could violate the federal provision that prohibits systematic voter removal purges within 90 days of a federal election.</P><P>Requiring voters to cast provisional ballots rather than regular ones is a concern because such ballots involve added verification and are often disqualified, according to voting experts.</P><P>Ms. Brunner said she was worried that requiring so many voters to cast provisional ballots would also raise tensions at the polls and worsen lines and confusion on Election Day in a year when she is expecting unprecedented turnout. </P><P>Wendy Weiser, a lawyer with the <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizati&#111;ns/b/brennan_center_for_justice/index.html?inline=nyt-org" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>Brennan Center for Justice</FONT></U></A> at the <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizati&#111;ns/n/new_york_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org" target="_blank"><U><FONT color=#000066>New York University</FONT></U></A> law school, said many voters were flagged erroneously because the databases used to check voter registrations were prone to errors. Most nonmatches are the result of typographical errors by government officials and computer errors, she said, not voter ineligibility. </P><NYT_UPDATE_BOTTOM><YT_UPDATE_BOTTOM></DIV><YT_TEXT></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;16&nbsp;2008 at 4:42pm<br /><br />Thanky for yer support, Mr.Wendt.<DIV>You won't regret it.</DIV><DIV>If I had been on the podium last night, this thing would already be over.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I needed a screen name for the MJ website, and everything was being rejected.</DIV><DIV>The Ballad of Spiderjohn(Sam Bush version--not Buffet) was playing on my puter, so I tried that one and it worked.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Actually I wanted jackofhearts(being a huge fan of older Dylan).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I ran as an indy in the last two elections, campaigning on two AOL message boards and was overwhelmingly chosen. But going against GW,Allah Gore and John Heinz Kerry was like shooting fish in a barrel. Not much different this time either.&nbsp; VERY surprised we don't have another viable third option(UNTIL NOW!)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Vote for da Spidermon, and tings be mo bettah soon!</DIV><DIV>Get up--stand up</DIV><DIV>Stand up 4 your rights!</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">arwendt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;16&nbsp;2008 at 10:09am<br /><br />Anyone bright enough to know the bailout was going to do squat gets my vote.<br><br>Plus you already have a great theme song:<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6xYUC4eZ08" target="_blank">The Ballad of Spider John</a><br>]]>
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   <title>Zogby: Too Close to Call : What???!!!  SPIDERJOHN definintely...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;15&nbsp;2008 at 7:56pm<br /><br />What???!!! <DIV>SPIDERJOHN definintely goes to the top of the ticket,with absolutely total respect for Vet.</DIV><DIV>No campaign donations necessary, though mocha and oats at JJ's, veal or pizza at Stefano's or a cheeseburger,crab cakes or scallops at the Meadows would be nice.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>AND:</DIV><DIV>Due to to total clusterf++K currently in the financial and political worlds, I have once again decided to toss my name into the mix to be your next President(and hopefully a win there also makes me more powerful than Mayor Mulligan, Council, Marty Koehler,Sheriff Jones and the County Commission).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>So:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Vote for Spider--your only real choice to lead us from this mess.</DIV><DIV>I despise Repubs and Dems equally, and will operate pretty much as an omni-potent supreme ruler for life(or I decide to say "Screw the whole thing!").</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>People get ready</DIV><DIV>the Spidertrain's a'comin'</DIV><DIV>No baggage mon</DIV><DIV>jus' getton board</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Where the road goes on forever and the party never ends!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Stop the fussin' an da fightin"</DIV><DIV>Increase da peace!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Mo bettah soon come, brothahs an sistahs</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>AND:</DIV><DIV>Told you hillbillies that the "bailout(Ha!) wouldn't solve a thing and only make things worse. At least Presta was smart enough to agree.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">John Beagle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;15&nbsp;2008 at 9:25am<br /><br />Where did you find that Pacman? That is hilarious.<br /><br />What about Goofey and Mini? lol]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 589<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;14&nbsp;2008 at 4:15pm<br /><br /><P>Speaking of Florida, ACORN is on a First name basis with Mickey.&nbsp; This voter application was submitted by ACORN.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><img src="http://www.tampabay.com/multimedia/archive/00041/a4s_vote101408_41870c.jpeg" height="327" width="450" border="1" alt="Mickey%20Mouse%20tried%20to%20register%20to%20vote%20in%20Florida%20this%20summer,%20but%20Orange%20County%20electi&#111;ns%20officials%20rejected%20his%20applicati&#111;n,%20which%20had%20an%20ACORN%20stamp%20&#111;n%20it." /></P>]]>
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