http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : Engineering : STREET REPAIR FUNDING Thu, 22 Oct 2026 04:37:30 +0000 Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:00:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5937 http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44341&title=street-repair-funding#44341 Author: TonyB
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Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 5:00pm

I wasn't saying that it would happen; just that it's about the only way Middletown would actually make some kind of comeback.]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:00:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44341&title=street-repair-funding#44341 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44339&title=street-repair-funding#44339 Author: over the hill
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Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 3:00pm

I know for a fact there are talented business people in this town but because of current policies and current council members and inept "leaders" in place they are reluctant to come forward. Hopefully one day ,if they're still here, they may take a chance. They're right under councils' noses and they can't even recognize them. IMO]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 15:00:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44339&title=street-repair-funding#44339 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44337&title=street-repair-funding#44337 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 2:09pm

acclaro wrote: TonyB, did you ever watch the movie called Waiting on Superman, about the complete failure of the national public education system? Superman will appear in the school systems nationwide centuries before a benefactor you describe, makes another appearance in Middletown. Even those mini Superman characters and wealthy mini benefactors are departing the city, not coming in. http://youtu.be/SXjXKT98esw

Sounds like required viewing for teachers, supers and school boards, although none will admit there is a problem. ]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 14:09:24 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44337&title=street-repair-funding#44337 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44336&title=street-repair-funding#44336 Author: VietVet
Subject: 5937
Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 2:06pm

TonyB wrote: I am serious in the sense that it's going to take something similar if Middletown is going to rebuild its job base. Someone willing to bring their business to the town and live there as well.

TonyB, I'd like to make another suggestion.

Perhaps a scenario that would be more doable nowadays might be to attract an already established business such as a P&G or some other company needing a centrally located logistics hub between two major Ohio cities and on a major north/south route such as I-75.

If the city were to miraculously clean up it's act, and convince a major corporation to locate here, one who needs a location like Middletown provides, we may see the START that would trigger more growth that mattered. HOWEVER, with the current thinking, the current city condition, reputation, business unfriendly environment, crime, malaise and all the things we talk about on this forum transpiring, I don't see anything like that happening in the next several decades or, until a total purge of the current crop of leaders and their small minded thinking dies on the vine over time.

THAT CHANGE, will require a major turnaround in the general attitude of the majority of this city to enact, through demands and voting purge, replacing current inept leadership with the correct people needed to lead us out of the pits. Need to throw the council out and replace them with competent people, who will then fire the city manager and demand that the new council start the purge of any and all management who supported him. That's a start. The MMF needs to be told not to involve themselves in city business as their agenda has done nothing to help Middletown prosper. Too many "my way or the highway" controlling egos in that organization to help this city.

At this time, a "new day" is very unlikely to happen. Most people simply don't care enough about this city to force any changes at all. Too busy doing drugs, drinking beer, eating their dollar menu cheeseburgers, working their jobs, paying the bills, playing video games, charging up their credit cards and surviving until the next paycheck comes around......and city leadership is counting on it staying that way as they are comfortable with the apathy shown to date. As long as most don't care, they are safe from being challenged. Sad. ]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 14:06:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44336&title=street-repair-funding#44336 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44335&title=street-repair-funding#44335 Author: acclaro
Subject: 5937
Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 1:40pm

TonyB, did you ever watch the movie called Waiting on Superman, about the complete failure of the national public education system?

Superman will appear in the school systems nationwide centuries before a benefactor you describe, makes another appearance in Middletown. Even those mini Superman characters and wealthy mini benefactors are departing the city, not coming in.

http://youtu.be/SXjXKT98esw 

]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 13:40:17 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44335&title=street-repair-funding#44335 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44333&title=street-repair-funding#44333 Author: TonyB
Subject: 5937
Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 1:14pm

I am serious in the sense that it's going to take something similar if Middletown is going to rebuild its job base. Someone willing to bring their business to the town and live there as well.

]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 13:14:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44333&title=street-repair-funding#44333 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44332&title=street-repair-funding#44332 Author: acclaro
Subject: 5937
Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 12:21pm

TonyB, I am uncertain if you are serious, but the difference was the titans built their business and lived here, when there were limited roads and ease of commuting.

Today, you'd build in West Chester and live in Indian Hills. Not so 75 years ago.
]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:21:35 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44332&title=street-repair-funding#44332 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44331&title=street-repair-funding#44331 Author: TonyB
Subject: 5937
Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 11:57am

Isn't that how Middletown has always developed? Paul J. Sorg, George Verity. Came to town, opened businesses that thrived and provided the economic growth that built this city twice. Over the hill; that is exactly what this city needs; an entrepreneur who will come to town, build his business here and live here and give back to the community.

]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:57:02 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44331&title=street-repair-funding#44331 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44330&title=street-repair-funding#44330 Author: over the hill
Subject: 5937
Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 11:31am

I guess the eternal optimist just keeps hoping for a miracle or a messiah which ever comes first! ]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:31:19 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44330&title=street-repair-funding#44330 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5937&PID=44328&title=street-repair-funding#44328 Author: acclaro
Subject: 5937
Posted: Dec 29 2014 at 10:41am

This was a very interesting article.

Firstly, it reveals the easiest and most prudent decision was to re-engineer/ restructure the human capital resources to reflect the loss of revenue, which continued through the present. The situation never improved, and financially, actually worsened. So, mistake 1 was the city never made cuts to reflect the decreasing revenue, which they never did.  

Secondly, the former commissioners realized raising taxes from 1 % to  1.5% and higher, would negatively impact development, including job creation. Middletown and Hamilton WILL NEVER ATTRACT new business and new residents, when West Chester and so many areas, offer 0% tax. So there is mistake 2, not cutting resources to reflect revenue dollars declining, and then they raised taxes, which negatively impacted jobs and development, which commissioners knew would result 30 years ago.

Now council wants a 2.25% increase?

Insane people managing insanely. Why expect a different result. 
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