Middletown Forum : BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : School Board : BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE Tue, 06 Oct 2026 16:20:32 +0000 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:29:49 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5972 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : http://youtu.be/vhv1w3M9sgI this... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44617&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44617 Author: bumper
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Posted: Jan 27 2015 at 12:29pm

http://youtu.be/vhv1w3M9sgI   this sure sounds like there is a huge problem with MSD, with this many teachers against this guy!! and to piss off the ones you have left to teach in this screwed up city!! is not a good thing IMO don't think any good teachers that are good at what they can do, want to fool with a school that stinks has bad as the city!!  A brand new fancy will not bring them too middletown!!]]> Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:29:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44617&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44617 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : processor wrote:I personally... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44616&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44616 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Jan 27 2015 at 12:06pm

Originally posted by processor processor wrote:

I personally am very thankful and appreciative of the selfless dedication of our school board. They are not there for the money, for power or for prestige. I can't think of any "perks" that they receive. Their objective is the betterment of MCSD. You can disagree with their approach and their decisions, but don't think that they aren't spending a lot of time and effort working to improve our schools.

I have yet to see any specific recommendations come from this group. It doesn't take much effort to whine about the test scores and complain that the district spends too much money. Specifically what would YOU change to improve things?

If you disagree so much then get off your rear end and run yourself. It's not like people are lining up to be on the board. We're lucky to have the people we have on the board. My guess is that if you get on the ballot you'll win a seat.
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processor:

There have been recommendations on how to do things differently posted on this forum. You need to find those recommendations if you are interested.

Before my wife became ill and I only had to work a full time job I did run for school board. (now, running for office is out of the question as I have to take care of her as soon as I walk in the door from work) At the time, there were three seats available. As soon as I announced my intention to run, and I told the Journal I wanted to start by examining the financial books of the district, I was quickly met with two others from the inner circle influence that ultimately diluted the vote and, with that, a chance to offer something different on the school board. With me, it's not like I haven't tried to enact my ideas while in office as I have on this forum.

The above comment ties into your comment "My guess is that if you get on the ballot you'll win a seat.

Actually, a very small chance of that happening. Only if you agree with the current, never-changing thinking now present on the school board. They will tolerate no new ideas nor a different path. They want people who agree with them. New people, foreign to the inner sanctum of accepted officeholders are kept from ever being on a committee, board or on council. They will find out who you are, what you stand for, and if your ideas aren't their ideas, they will enter their little stable of candidates and dilute your impact on being elected. This is why we never see any exciting, new, directions for the schools nor the city. The same cookie-cutter candidates, thinking the same old way, with no thinking outside what is permitted, produces the same old stale, stagnant non-progress we all have seen for years. The schools and the city are both locked into a retarded growth pattern.]]> Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:06:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44616&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44616 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : It doesn't take much effort... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44615&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44615 Author: acclaro
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Posted: Jan 27 2015 at 11:27am

It doesn't take much effort for a leader or leadership to say no than yes.

On occasion, the Journal has a few readers who post excellent and insightful opinions. In the matter on the district and the meeting, what I read had a few major themes, these were:

1)  The district's lack of discipline has been long standing and creating an environment which is disruptive and hindering performance gains.

2) Complacency. Good teachers are giving up, leaving, and taking positions in districts which instills discipline, so they can excel and teach. 

To Ms. Moon's view no one else see's what she sees, from what I read, many teachers are looking through the same lens as she.

Tony Blair from Britain had an excellent quote. It takes leadership to say no, when the easier decision is to say yes.

Now....let's give credit where due. Mr. Ison has written, or at least as stated, the BOE has a termination provision without cause with 90 days notice. No improvement, teachers bolting, termination remedy available.

I have no problem with the decision on the rehire, other than a disdain for Ohio's double dip addiction.

The problem is too many yes's, when it should be no's.
]]> Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:27:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44615&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44615 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : I personally am very thankful... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44613&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44613 Author: processor
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Posted: Jan 27 2015 at 10:49am

I personally am very thankful and appreciative of the selfless dedication of our school board. They are not there for the money, for power or for prestige. I can't think of any "perks" that they receive. Their objective is the betterment of MCSD. You can disagree with their approach and their decisions, but don't think that they aren't spending a lot of time and effort working to improve our schools.

I have yet to see any specific recommendations come from this group. It doesn't take much effort to whine about the test scores and complain that the district spends too much money. Specifically what would YOU change to improve things?

If you disagree so much then get off your rear end and run yourself. It's not like people are lining up to be on the board. We're lucky to have the people we have on the board. My guess is that if you get on the ballot you'll win a seat.]]> Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:49:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44613&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44613 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : Well, the school board just rehired... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44602&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44602 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Jan 26 2015 at 9:36pm

Well, the school board just rehired Ison as a double dipper. Was there any doubt? Rubber stamping at it's finest. Done deal before the announcement I would imagine. Gonna save $12,000. Also gonna keep the Super versus teachers conflict alive and well. Teachers jumping ship left and right under his command. Apparently, he doesn't work and play well with others.....but that doesn't seem to matter to the board. Apparently, saving 12 grand is more important than any internal harmony between management and worker and the school board thinks that is just fine.

He claims he loves this district and wants to see it succeed. Also claims he has made improvements on performance. I don't see this in the data to date. Don't see it in the new schools built either. Where is the proof to your claims Ison? However, to his credit, he has accomplished his main objective given to him by the board.....he got the bond levy passed, albeit by a slim margin. Then again, isn't that why they hire any super in this district.....to get levies passed.

The internal strife will continue. Ison will continue to deny the fact that the numbers don't reflect what he is saying under his guidance. The school board will continue to make decisions that defy logic. The district will continue to operate in the bottom tier, the teachers will continue to be unhappy with a constant revolving door of those leaving and those unaware of the working environment coming in. The district will continue to embellish the surface rhetoric knowing most in this town won't delve into the specifics and all will be right in the world of the Middletown educational world as they continue their journey into the abyss. Isn't that an iceberg ahead?]]> Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:36:47 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44602&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44602 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : Completely agree and never disagreed.At... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44595&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44595 Author: acclaro
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Posted: Jan 26 2015 at 4:04pm

Completely agree and never disagreed.

At the end of the day, would not 99.99% of residents state if there were more students in the system like the two students highlighted on the pamplet the district sent out, MCSD would be EXCELLENT rated, and property values soaring?

Princeton has been a powerhouse in swimming for years. Its an enormous accomplishment to hold so many awards and records, including academic and the parents and district should be proud..    
]]> Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:04:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44595&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44595 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : spider:"Vet--u might b wise... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44593&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44593 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Jan 26 2015 at 3:51pm

spider:

"Vet--u might b wise 2 sit this 1 out"

Not going to touch this spider. The discussion between the two party's is well beyond my pay grade. Not even close to the level of education being discussed. Best my family can do is MUM, Sinclair or Wright State.

I will say that I'm impressed by Ms. Andrew's son's accomplishments both in the classroom and in sports. Something to be very proud of Ms. Andrew. You and your husband did a great job in helping chart your son's life course. ]]> Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:51:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44593&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44593 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : Ms. Andrew, apparently, the concerns... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44590&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44590 Author: acclaro
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Posted: Jan 26 2015 at 2:46pm

Ms. Andrew, apparently, the concerns associated with Mr. Ison are weighing heavily on you and are a distraction which you are projecting hostility.

I know what a ob/gyn physician makes annually and an attorney at a top tier midwest firm. Undoubtedly, you have the means to pay for tuition at any institution in the country.

I am certain many board members have reasons they pursue serving on a Board. You are projecting on a passing opinion made regarding a board member in another state as to the benefit he gained by sitting on a board.  

I learned long ago to not make assumptions. You are making an assumption I am insinuating a 4.2 GPA, high achievement in sports, and top 1% testing on its own merit, would not get a student into a top tier school. The assumption is completely wrong and not worthy of further debate.   

An A average with excellent testing and added extra-curriculum activities would get a student into any number of excellent institutions.

  
]]> Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:46:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44590&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44590 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : Acclaro pal--u r 2 smart 2 take... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44589&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44589 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Jan 26 2015 at 2:42pm

Acclaro pal--u r 2 smart 2 take a shot at a proud mother's son and his credible accomplishments lol.
We can't help u here--u r on yer own!

Actually I was thinking how cool this young man must be, and how proud the family must be to see their years of combined effort play out so well.

Besides, Ms.A might be somewhat stressed over 2nite's bored(far from it!) meeting

Bad subject--worse timing imo

Vet--u might b wise 2 sit this 1 out]]> Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:42:15 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44589&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44589 BOARD TO DECIDE ISON'S FUTURE : Classy. Instead of apologizing,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44588&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44588 Author: Marcia Andrew
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Posted: Jan 26 2015 at 2:17pm

Classy. Instead of apologizing, Acclaro, you add further insulting innuendo ("added teacher prep for testing et al.") which was not included in your original post. My son did not receive any "added teacher prep for testing et al"--whatever that means-- by virtue of my position on the school board. Nor have I received any $250,000 "perk." ]]> Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:17:28 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&PID=44588&title=board-to-decide-isons-future#44588