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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Paul Nagy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;09&nbsp;2015 at 4:11am<br /><br /><!--if gte mso 9> <w:Word>  <w:View>Normal</w:View>  <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom>  <w:TrackMoves/>  <w:Trackatting/>  <w:D&#111;notShowComments/>  <w:D&#111;notShowInserti&#111;nsAndDeleti&#111;ns/>  <w:Punctuati&#111;nKerning/>  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/>  <w:SaveIfInvalid>false</w:SaveIfInvalid>  <w:IgnoreMixed>false</w:IgnoreMixed>  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>  <w:D&#111;notPromoteQF/>  <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther>  <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian>  <w:LidThemeComplex>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplex>  <w:Compatibility>   <w:BreakWrappedTables/>   <w:SnapToGridInCell/>   <w:WrapTextWithPunct/>   <w:UseAsianBreakRules/>   <w:D&#111;ntGrowAutofit/>   <w:SplitPgBreakAndark/>   <w:D&#111;ntVertAlignCellWithSp/>   <w:D&#111;ntBreakC&#111;nstrainedForcedTables/>   <w:D&#111;ntVertAlignInTxbx/>   <w:Word11KerningPairs/>   <w:CachedColBalance/>  </w:Compatibility>  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel>  <m:mathPr>   <m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/>   <m:brkBin m:val="before"/>   <m:brkBinSub m:val="&amp;#45;-"/>   <m:smallFrac m:val="off"/>   <m:dispDef/>   <m:lMargin m:val="0"/>   <m:rMargin m:val="0"/>   <m:defJc m:val="centerGroup"/>   <m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/>   <m:intLim m:val="subSup"/>   <m:naryLim m:val="undOvr"/>  </m:mathPr></w:Word><!--><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">FactGuywrites:</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">“Ittakes much more to become organized and define a purpose than to follow thepath of anger. Without organization, purpose, structure, discipline, and anobjective, nothing can be accomplished. Of greater importance, is intelligence,credibility, and an ability to communicate. If there is no credibility, othershave no desire to be associated with an individual nor group, Without a messageand ability to communicate effectively, you create confusion. Without purpose,there is no desire to achieve, to overcome, to change, to succeed. Without anability to define the audience and who votes in elections, you are wasting yourtime. The reason we win is you have never found nor maintained anything butanger associated with minority status. Knowledge is power. Power is control.Control is guidance. Guidance is leadership. “&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Factguyyou are loose with the facts and distort facts as it is convenient for you todo so in avoiding all of the things that are said to you by all of those whohave responded to you in this forum. </span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Here aresome facts for you:</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><u><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>Elections</span></u><span style="font-family:  &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"> have been won in Middletown because those who havebeen in power have increased bureaucracy and intimidate them if they don’t votethe way they are told. You have MMF that is an illegal political actioncommittee and has worked to manipulate elections. You have firemen (anestimated 80% of whom live out of the city) putting on their identifying shirtsand going door to door at election time with a biased message to vote for thecities agenda instead of working just to get out the vote. They do so toguarantee their paychecks and pensions. This provides the city with anenormous, unfair (and probably illegal) voting machine that otherwise couldn’tbe afforded even by the city. The Seniors are intimidated by the threat of lackof funding if they don’t vote the cities agenda. The school Board also followsthe pattern to vote the city agenda and get school employees to vote theirsalaries instead of what is right and good and fair for the citizens of the city.Nepotism also has assured votes. Look at our police department. This is wherethe votes come from to win the elections. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>Elections in Middletown are <u>not</u> won bycandidates honestly.<u> This</u> is the audience the city has defined to winelections.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">BecauseMiddletown has been without organization, purpose, structure, discipline, andan objective, nothing in Middletown has been accomplished of significance toturn the city around. </span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Therehas been no intelligence, credibility, and ability to communicate. Thus, Ifthere is no credibility, others have no desire to be associated with the cityand without a message and ability to communicate effectively, you have createdconfusion. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>This is probably theunderlying cause of citizen apathy.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Youstate, “Knowledge is power. Power is control. Control is guidance. Guidance isleadership.” <span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>Well, power and control havebeen the main elements in Middletown city government for a long time. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>Yet, the city has not turned around or prospered.Why is that? It is because the power and control has been misused and abused forpersonal interests and pet projects and not for the betterment of the entirecity.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">The cityhas no clear vision or plan for its future. The 20 year plan is nebulous atbest and so are the other plans including Adkins current plan which citycouncil has failed to share with its citizenry. But then they always act insecrecy and transparency is not one of their practices.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">The cityneeds a clear plan for its future. It must quit being so short sighted and mustenlarge the vision for the future. Downtown is not enough! It needs a plan withthe specific purpose of turning the city around. The plan must be specific,with a clear time line of accomplishment,<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>specific steps for financing it<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>and an emphasis on public safety, infrastructure and economicdevelopment. Providing jobs and transparency in our finances must be paramount.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>As a beginning point I offer thefollowing for consideration:</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">PresidentObama has designated 8.1 Billion dollars to return manufacturing back to theUnited States. Our great Governor John Kasich has designated 800 milliondollars for manufacturing for the State of Ohio. </span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">We <u>can</u>get those in the fields of <span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>Education,health, technology, lite/clean manufacturing to come here. </span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">We needto enlarge our vision and stop the petty, stinking thinking. </span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">It lookslike our Chamber of Commerce has got a new, active, positive and practical approach toour business needs and we should use them and encourage them to continue on.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">There aresome things right about Middletown but not due to our present administration.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Ifnothing else, we can imitate what West Chester, Mason, Monroe, Springboro,Hamilton and Fairfield are doing. This city belongs to all of its taxpayingcitizens and not just to the few who are self serving. We need public servants whoare interested in serving others. </span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">The voiceson this forum have a clear understanding of where we are and where we need togo. We should be thankful for their commitment and continued concerns.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Paul Nagy<br></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><!--if gte mso 9> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" DefUnhideWhenUsed="true"    DefSemi="true" DefQat="false" DefPriority="99"    LatentStyleCount="267">  <w:LsdExcepti&#111;n Locked="false" Priority="0" Semi="false"     UnhideWhenUsed="false" Qat="true" Name="Normal"/>  <w:LsdExcepti&#111;n Locked="false" Priority="9" Semi="false"     UnhideWhenUsed="false" 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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;08&nbsp;2015 at 8:03pm<br /><br />very concerning, factguy....<br />no sure exactly what our officials and admin have actually "won" other than keeping the good ole boy crony system alive through the election process.<br /><br />Anyone who watched the meeting where the ward system was eliminated had to lose faith completely with the process protocol. The petition brought to Council proved to be insufficient clearly. What followed was an incredible miscarriage of city govt. Despite not having a valid petition, Council rammed the change through anyway, when one member(finishing his last term) changed his vote. After leaving Council, that member was hired by the city to an admin position for just long enough to qualify for his full public service pension despite being fired from a similar position within the county. Hmmm....<br /><br />Prior, we had the coup where the mayor was removed by a motion from another councilmember(with complete support/urging from the city manager--a neutral(?) position). The councilmember making that motion also received a plum position after leaving Council.<br /><br />To say that this long-term group has governed well, and represented the entire community is very ?able. Granted--we usually get what we deserve, and we must be pretty sorry to deserve what we have received imo.<br /><br />I hope new faces emerge quickly to take us forward. It is clear that our future = our past with the same old same old.<br /><br />I hope that Mr.A pulls this off and cleans house.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;08&nbsp;2015 at 5:13pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Factguy" alt="Originally posted by Factguy" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Factguy wrote:</strong><br /><br />It takes much more to become organized and define a purpose than to follow the path of anger. Without organization, purpose, structure, discipline, and an objective, nothing can be accomplished. Of greater importance, is intelligence, credibility, and an ability to communicate. If there is no credibility, others have no desire to be associated with an individual nor group, Without a message and ability to communicate effectively, you create confusion. Without purpose, there is no desire to achieve, to overcome, to change, to succeed. Without an ability to define the audience and who votes in elections, you are wasting your time. The reason we win is you have never found nor maintained anything but anger associated with minority status. Knowledge is power. Power is control. Control is guidance. Guidance is leadership.    </td></tr></table><br /><br />Sounds like the city motto Factguy (Kohler perhaps?) So when is the city going to start working on these things that you mention? I don't see the city leaders having organization, purpose, structure discipline nor an objective that benefits the city or it's residents.....with the exception of a few inner circle people.<br /><br />Factguy: <br /><br />"The reason we win"........so it is true. The city has the same agenda as some of us here......a them against us mentality. And just how do you think that started Factguy? Probably when the city leaders started to ignore the general populace and design an agenda that caters to the chosen few, right? You got just what you wanted. A divided, angry, dis-functional community that will never see eye to eye. If you are Kohler, no wonder Lebanon didn't want you around. <br /><br />Oh, and there is no leadership of any worth in this city.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=512">Factguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;08&nbsp;2015 at 12:57pm<br /><br />It takes much more to become organized and define a purpose than to follow the path of anger. Without organization, purpose, structure, discipline, and an objective, nothing can be accomplished. Of greater importance, is intelligence, credibility, and an ability to communicate. If there is no credibility, others have no desire to be associated with an individual nor group, Without a message and ability to communicate effectively, you create confusion. Without purpose, there is no desire to achieve, to overcome, to change, to succeed. Without an ability to define the audience and who votes in elections, you are wasting your time. The reason we win is you have never found nor maintained anything but anger associated with minority status. Knowledge is power. Power is control. Control is guidance. Guidance is leadership. &nbsp; &nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;08&nbsp;2015 at 9:20am<br /><br />Getting together to establish a game plan is a great idea wanna. Problem is, it has been tried in the past with poor success. Can't get anyone to show. In past meetings, the same 8-10 people showed each Sunday at the Library. Even had Councilpersons Marconi and Scott-Jones show up one time. Never went any further than that though. Apathy is your enemy. People are mad, but not mad enough to do anything pro-active to let city hall know.<br /><br />And the city leaders are banking that it stays that way. As long as there is apathy, they keep getting their way with absolutely no resistance.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=235">wannaknow</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;08&nbsp;2015 at 7:24am<br /><br />This thread started out as the heroin epidemic. As I said in an earlier post I lost a daughter to drugs. Needless to say I have zero tolerance for any type of drug. This may sound a little hypocritical since I have owned and operated a bar I inherited from my husband's death in 2007.<br /><br /> I attended numerous NA meetings with my daughter and they all ended with the serenity prayer and the phrase "remember alcohol is a drug". I wrestled with this personal moral issue almost daily for the past 10 years. The heroin epidemic affected my business in a two-fold way. One, my zero tolerance would not allow drug dealers/users to frequent my bar. I called them out on it and made some enemies. On a not so personal note, most heroin addicts don't drink a lot anyway. I closed business on December 30th, 2014.<br /><br />I have followed Middletownusa for several years. I've seen the town continue to spiral downhill. Everyone agrees we need change but it hasn't happened. I had big hopes with Josh, Gary Barge and my hero Bob Presta. The problem is the majority of people that vote are friends of the ones we want to get rid of or the ones in office run unopposed. <br /><br />I have an idea. Why don't we get together and plan an organized strategy to find replacements and then make a concentrated effort to spark people's interest enough to go to the polls. I know it's possible.<br />I have a meeting place and lots of coffee.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2015 at 8:33pm<br /><br />Factguy:<br /><br />"Everyone must pull together to turn Middletown around, it cannot be done by a few people, city council, or the school board alone"<br /><br />But they don't want our help Factguy. And, their idea of helping them is to stay out the way if your views don't match theirs. You can't get this "team concept" where everybody joins together to help change things if the team is dysfunctional and 180 degrees in opinion as to the direction of the city. Oil and water don't mix and I would suspect it would be that way if "everyone pulled together". Some people just won't drink the water around here as they know it is bad for their health. <br /><br />Factguy:<br /><br />"It was not Mr. Adkins that created the 54%"<br /><br />He may not have created the 54% but he certainly condoned it under the Gilleland administration. He went along with the program without offering any dissention. That makes him an accessory to the current problems.<br /><br />Factguy:<br /><br /> "You aren't suggesting the water main lines are breaking in the cold weather because of sewer funds being moved to the general fund to buy downtown property?"<br /><br />Well, let's see. Water mains break over time due to age, neglect and a lack of a preventative maintenance program. The roads and infrastructure money fund was used for other purposes in the 80's and never replaced. Because these funds were absent from the budget for so long, and the city was responsible for renewing the funding for the streets and sewers but failed to do so, yes, I would say that due to a lack of funding, the water main break frequency is due to money nonavailability. It is a practice with this city to move monies to the general fund to launder and disperse to special agenda projects. It is a method of concealment used by Carrolus and others to play the old hand motion pee under the peanut shell game so that the public can't follow the money flow easily. Been used for years here. <br /><br />Factguy:<br /><br />"Anyone can run for elected office, and those inclined should do so"<br /><br />Ahh, but can they win against the power block set in motion for the MMF sponsored candidates? That's the real question. History tells us no. Awfully hard to defeat an established, money-rich little network that is firmly entrenched in this city. Most don't have the ability to match financing, networking nor time to match the MMF.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2015 at 7:31pm<br /><br /><span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px; : rgb251, 251, 253;">You should be very pleased Doug Adkins and city council in a short period of time, reduced the poverty level by income, from 54% to 36%. Great job.&nbsp;<br><br><b><font color="#ff0000">Show me the numbers to prove this statement.<br><br></font></b></span><span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px; : rgb251, 251, 253;">Are you suggesting the city had a positive brand 5 years ago, when the city 54% poverty, and had nearly 1700 vouchers? &nbsp;<br><br><b><font color="#ff0000">And the City of Middletown still has 1662 available vouchers that are now managed by Warren &amp; Butler County, HUD. The poverty level will go back up as soon as all these vouchers become available again.</font></b></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=512">Factguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2015 at 7:07pm<br /><br />Are you suggesting the city had a positive brand 5 years ago, when the city 54% poverty, and had nearly 1700 vouchers? &nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5973<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;06&nbsp;2015 at 6:08pm<br /><br />Over the Hill<br>At that meeting Mr. Adkins said "give me the power and I will make it happen."<br>Well it happened all right. City Hall then started their fight with the land lords and HUD and Middletown was in the papers every month. They RE-BRANDED the city alright....but not in a positive light.<br>They gained nothing in the end of all this money and time spent were wasted..<br>Now City Hall has several legal issues because of their actions and we get to pay the legal bills for another mess.<br><br>]]>
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