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   <title>Won&#039;t be Big Brother : But Dougie does what Dougie does...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1299">over the hill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6104<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;23&nbsp;2015 at 9:55pm<br /><br />But Dougie does what Dougie does best "spin city" ]]>
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   <title>Won&#039;t be Big Brother : City Manager Doug Adkins said...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6104<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;23&nbsp;2015 at 7:02pm<br /><br /><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:18.0pt;:#FBFBFD"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">City Manager DougAdkins said in an email response that the city had not received any complaintsfrom HUD or BMHA regarding the transfer.<u1:p></u1:p></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; : rgb251, 251, 253;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">“We areunaware of any issues,” he said in the email.<u1:p></u1:p></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="line-height: 12.6pt; : rgb251, 251, 253;"><u1:p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></u1:p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">When HUDcame to Middletown to do the audit before the Section 8 Program was removed HUDstated that the Section 8 Program was not in compliance, records were missing,records were incomplete and not updated with current information. In fact Iposted several articles on this blog from the newspaper stating these veryfacts. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <st1:city w:st="&#111;n">Butler</st1:city>and <st1:place w:st="&#111;n"><st1:placename w:st="&#111;n">Warren</st1:placename> <st1:placename w:st="&#111;n">County</st1:placename></st1:place> had to go over and check eachfile that they received and that is why the transfer took so long. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mr. Adkins was fully aware that theSection 8 files were a mess while he was over this department. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style="line-height:12.6pt;:#FBFBFD"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></b></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>]]>
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   <title>Won&#039;t be Big Brother : Wasn&amp;#039;t it Paul Harvey who...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1299">over the hill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6104<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;23&nbsp;2015 at 3:55pm<br /><br />Wasn't it Paul Harvey who said " And now you know the rest of the story" ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=274">Perplexed</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6104<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;23&nbsp;2015 at 3:44pm<br /><br />Well, how sad it is that BMHA has had to spend so much time straightening out records passed along to them by the City of Middletown.  I recall current high level city staff boasting several years ago that Middletown was to have one of the very best Section 8 programs in the country.  I can also remember one bureaucrat stating, "give me the power and I'll make things happen."  What an ongoing line of baloney from this well-compensated senior city official.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=274">Perplexed</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6104<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;23&nbsp;2015 at 3:25pm<br /><br />I can recall asking for a database of Section 8 properties from CONSOC staff back in 2007 and again in 2008.  They were forthcoming with said information which in turn was passed along to Sgt. Cunningham, Marty Kohler, Judy Gilleland and Les Landen.  In addition, CONSOC was always compliant with requests from Sgt. Cunningham and others to meet to discuss crime issues, methods to improve communication between Middletown Police/CONSOC/landlords, etc.  After so many years of misinformation and bad mouthing, I thought it was time to set the record straight.  I also know of two employees who officed in the lower level of City Hall who visited Judy Gilleland a number of times to bad mouth CONSOC.  There you are, folks!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6104<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;23&nbsp;2015 at 12:21pm<br /><br /><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 10.8pt; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Posted: 7:03 p.m.Friday, May 22, 2015<o:p></o:p></span></p><h1 style="margin: 0in 0in 7.5pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;  font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Housing authority: We won’t be ‘Big Brother’for <st1:city w:st="&#111;n"><st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Middletown</st1:place></st1:city>police<o:p></o:p></span></h1><p ="cmcredit" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">By<span ="apple-c&#111;nverted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.journal-news.com/staff/ed-richter/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#7D0064;border:n&#111;ne text 1.0pt;mso-border-alt:n&#111;ne text 0in;  padding:0in">Ed Richter</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="cmsource" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Staff Writer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="cmdateline" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><st1:city w:st="&#111;n"><st1:place w:st="&#111;n"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">MIDDLETOWN</span></b></st1:place></st1:city><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444"> —<span ="apple-c&#111;nverted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">AButler Metropolitan Housing official made it clear Thursday that the agencywould do what it can to ensure that Section 8 landlords and tenants in <st1:place w:st="&#111;n"><st1:city w:st="&#111;n">Middletown</st1:city></st1:place> comply withprogram rules, but it will not act as “Big Brother” for local police.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">BarbaraBrown, who manages BMHA’s housing choice voucher program, spoke Thursday at themonthly meeting of the Middletown Real Estate Investors Group to clarify theagency’s policies and procedures. The county housing authority took over <st1:city w:st="&#111;n"><st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Middletown</st1:place></st1:city>’s Section 8,or federally subsidized housing, vouchers last year at the behest of the U.S.Department of Housing and Urban Development.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Inher remarks, Brown said “the majority of the people we serve are good andcompliant with the rules, but there are some that are not and try to get aroundthe rules.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">When<st1:city w:st="&#111;n"><st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Middletown</st1:place></st1:city>police Lt. Jim Cunningham asked Brown for a list of city properties receivingSection 8 assistance, the tone of the meeting became tense.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">“Forwhat reason?” Brown asked.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Cunninghamexplained the information would be used for the city’s chronic nuisanceprogram. City officials and the landlords’ organization are developing achronic nuisance ordinance as a way to alleviate problem properties.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Theproposed ordinance is undergoing changes based on concerns raised by thelandlords, and City Manager Doug Adkins said a revised version could be readyin the coming weeks for review by the landlords before Middletown City Councilconsiders the matter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Brownsaid when there is a police call or nuisance issue, the landlord and her officeboth receive a notice from the <st1:city w:st="&#111;n"><st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Middletown</st1:place></st1:city>detective about the incident. But her office doesn’t provide that informationto the police, she said. Brown said on at least three occasions the city of <st1:city w:st="&#111;n"><st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Hamilton</st1:place></st1:city> has sent lettersto her office requesting the same information for a list of about 100properties.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">SteveBohannon, chairman of Middletown Real Estate Investors Group, agreed withBrown, saying, “there’s no reason for him to have that information. That’sprofiling.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">“Ifpolice want to know if a person is on Section 8, then they should ask thetenant,” Bohannon said. “If they break the law, then they can pay theconsequences.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Brownsaid while there are good and bad clients, there are also good and badlandlords. She said those landlords have to follow through with documentationof their tenants if they become a problem and provide BMHA with sufficientevidence in order to remove them from the program.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Shealso reminded the landlords that BMHA and the Section 8 program is onlyproviding the rent assistance and does not get involved in issues regardingsecurity deposits or damages to the property. If a landlord has an issue with atenant, Brown said they have to follow through on those legal remedies such aseviction.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">“It’sup to you to decide if you want to rent to people on Section 8,” she said. “Butif you do, there are certain federal rules that BMHA has to follow.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Shesaid the agency has been spending a lot of time working to clean up errors inthe records that were transferred in the transition from the city of <st1:city w:st="&#111;n"><st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Middletown</st1:place></st1:city> to BMHA. Browncould not be reached Friday for additional comment as the BMHA office is notopen on Fridays.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">CityManager Doug Adkins said in an email response that the city had not receivedany complaints from HUD or BMHA regarding the transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 18pt; outline: 0px; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444">“Weare unaware of any issues,” he said in the email.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>]]>
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