Middletown Forum : Outdoor Refreshment Area http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Outdoor Refreshment Area Tue, 06 Oct 2026 04:38:03 +0000 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:17:04 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6172 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Outdoor Refreshment Area : Don't forget, none of these... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46051&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46051 Author: Perplexed
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 18 2015 at 2:17pm

Don't forget, none of these proposals would be possible were it not for the "brilliant neighborhood revitalization programs" carried out in areas surrounding the downtown. Take a tour sometime to see how the Dougmeister's and Fuchmeister's expenditures of millions in HUD funds has rejuvenated(?) these older, declining areas. NOT!!! See how their "visionary" activities have prompted widespread private property reinvestment(?) while also improving the marketability(?) of Ward 2 and parts of Ward 1 real estate. NOT!!! See how their creativity(?) and frugality(?) in formerly problematic central city neighborhoods has aided and abetted downtown property reinvestment. NOT!!!   It's always quite humorous to read of the praises of these two bureaucrats by shills and wannabees on this blog.]]> Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:17:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46051&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46051 Outdoor Refreshment Area : Losing strategy when a belief... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46046&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46046 Author: acclaro
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 18 2015 at 11:52am

Losing strategy when a belief open carry for a few restaurants is going to attract foot traffic and residents into Middletown.

Perhaps the better change would be to focus upon reducing crime, purging heroin, improving public image of dying city, and maintaining infrastructure untouched for 40 years. That change is a winner; open beer or wine container really doesn't get the job done. Neither does social media and blogs about the "shovel ready" property available and the amazing amenities available in a city ranked as one of state's highest crime areas, lowest valued property assessments, and potholes so deep Rumke is considering using them as landfills.    
]]> Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:52:38 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46046&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46046 Outdoor Refreshment Area : In all respect, we have far more... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46045&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46045 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 18 2015 at 11:24am

In all respect, we have far more important issues that affect everyone, than to be worrying about 2-3 bars in the former downtown area and being able to carry around liquor only purchased from them. It will pass and honestly not make a difference city-wide. Let it happen nbd.]]> Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:24:03 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46045&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46045 Outdoor Refreshment Area : You're right acclaro. Lets... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46044&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46044 Author: itsamee
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 18 2015 at 11:20am

You're right acclaro. Lets just give up on anything that can help make a change.  ]]> Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:20:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46044&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46044 Outdoor Refreshment Area : Don't forget about changing... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46043&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46043 Author: acclaro
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 1:47pm

Don't forget about changing codified ordinances for making city more business friendly.  ]]> Thu, 17 Sep 2015 13:47:02 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46043&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46043 Outdoor Refreshment Area : AcclaroItseems that city council... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46041&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46041 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 12:19pm

Acclaro
It seems that city council went from "Build it and they will come" to "Make the law and they will come".
This makes my three little grey cells go..TILT..TILT...TILT]]> Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:19:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46041&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46041 Outdoor Refreshment Area : Game changer?Mingling outside... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46040&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46040 Author: acclaro
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 12:05pm

Game changer? Mingling outside from one restaurant to another to bar hop offers some advantage? Perhaps, if you are a student at Ohio State on a campus of 55,000, but not downtown Middletown. Several businesses are cutting staff including Kristina's Hair Styling across from Stefano's because of the mess on Central. Hamilton just appears to be much further along in creating a German Village (Columbus) environment than Middletown throwing everyone against the wall. The Sr Citizen Ctr having alcohol now until midnight? What's next, 5-6 Vegas casino's downtown and a Hooters franchise leasing space in the Sr Ctr? Out of control.
]]> Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:05:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46040&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46040 Outdoor Refreshment Area : Spider,I think this could be a... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46039&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46039 Author: itsamee
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 11:17am

Spider, 

I think this could be a game changer as it might attract businesses and festivals based on the idea that they could offer something other cities cannot.  Being able to have a beer outside would actually be a benefit to many. 
While you could see stupid people exploit it, I think the majority of people would be fine with it (no different than at the bash). 
]]> Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:17:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46039&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46039 Outdoor Refreshment Area : so--u can buy a drink at one of... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46038&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46038 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 10:50am

so--u can buy a drink at one of the 3 downtown businesses selling liquor
u can carry it outside in this wide area but u cannot carry it in to another business(or can u carry it in to another district-located business NOT selling liquor IF allowed by the business?)
what about the bash, and other outside events also selling liquor? can u carry anything in to those events?

how will police monitor usage and origin over this area?
do police have time for this(I think probably not)?

nbd
no game-changer
this is a city priority?]]> Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:50:15 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46038&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46038 Outdoor Refreshment Area : Its always bizarre when contradictions... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6172&PID=46037&title=outdoor-refreshment-area#46037 Author: Dean
Subject: 6172
Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 10:44am

Its always bizarre when contradictions surface, and a degree of hypocrisy.

So the motive for the new law associated with alcohol is a revenue generator. The city adamantly opposes the marijuana plant aimed for Middletown, which would dwarf revenue from the ability to walk from one bar to another, or restaurant, with a alcohol license. Not for pot legalization for rec use, but really a contrast in belief by the city as to what is right and wrong. Head scratcher. 
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