Middletown Forum : No Bid For $80,000 Building? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Manager : No Bid For $80,000 Building? Tue, 06 Oct 2026 17:46:49 +0000 Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:17:39 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6283 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ No Bid For $80,000 Building? : Metaphorically speaking....Middletown... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47152&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47152 Author: Dean
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Posted: Jul 22 2016 at 12:17pm

Metaphorically speaking....Middletown is the road to Nowhere, but, enjoy the journey nonetheless.

http://youtu.be/qf-IUQs3muQ
]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:17:39 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47152&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47152 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : Yes. He has been putting a lot... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47151&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47151 Author: swohio75
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Posted: Jul 20 2016 at 12:57pm

Yes. He has been putting a lot of sweat into this project.  

Hear he still planning on opening by end off summer.  Vail St. property has been completely gutted.

Given the type of establishment this is, there are a number of regulatory hurdles to overcome that could delay his opening beyond the original agreed to timeline with the city. There will also be the question of whether his first batch is high-quality enough (and to his satisfaction) for distribution/sale.

The key point is that he has made a good faith effort to honor the timeline, and I have to believe that this can only bring more positive energy to Central Ave. 
]]> Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:57:15 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47151&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47151 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : I have seen Mr.Robinette working... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47150&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47150 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Jul 18 2016 at 10:28am

I have seen Mr.Robinette working his tail off doing grunt work in the heat. So my hat is off to him there.
The new young business people coming in are starting to make a difference, and quickly replacing the old guard in importance imo.
It is getting better finally.
Still would like to know where all the $$$ invested over the last 20 years has gone
Otherwise the song remains the same]]> Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:28:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47150&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47150 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : The terms of the sale of the property... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47149&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47149 Author: middletownscouter
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Posted: Jul 18 2016 at 9:42am

The terms of the sale of the property require Liberty Spirits to be up and running by the end of this year.  If not, the city can start the process to take the property back.]]> Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:42:26 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47149&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47149 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : Or century. All is quiet on that... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47146&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47146 Author: Dean
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Posted: Jul 16 2016 at 10:14am

Or century. All is quiet on that wonderful development at the Manchester, the developer from Chicago that said he was just project manager.

Continuation of the lipstick on the pig strategy. Clock by Atrium and build facade on right corner to highlight the entrance to Warren Cty and the Renaissance. Had a family of friends from Boston visit over July 4th, with a few new born children. While pushing the mountain stroller around Hampton, Milton, Curryer, and masny streets with generally nice homes, the cracks, asphalt destruction, and potholes were deep enough to overturn a $600.00 baby stroller. 

The city should be absolutely ashamed of its actions and neglect.      
]]> Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:14:44 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47146&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47146 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : I wouldn't be worried about... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47145&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47145 Author: FmrMide81
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Posted: Jul 15 2016 at 8:48pm

I wouldn't be worried about the month-I'd be questioning what year...]]> Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:48:05 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47145&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47145 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : In response to several inquiries,what's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47144&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47144 Author: Analytical
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Posted: Jul 15 2016 at 7:33pm

In response to several inquiries, what's the anticipated completion date for Mr. Robinette's "development vision" involving former City-owned property located between Central and Vail?  Some people say end of June was the date.  Others have said end of July  Could it be August?]]> Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:33:25 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=47144&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#47144 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : 220.09 SALE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. (a)The following... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=46772&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#46772 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Feb 22 2016 at 6:52pm

220.09     SALE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.

   (a)   Thefollowing procedure is hereby established for the sale of City-owned realproperty:

      (1)   TheCity Manager, or his or her designee, shall estimate the value of anyCity-owned real property, which is proposed to be sold, or for which an offerhas been made, as being less than five thousand dollars ($5,000.00) or fivethousand dollars ($5,000.00) or more.

      (2)   AnyCity-owned property, which is estimated to be worth less than five thousanddollars ($5,000.00), may be sold without advertisement, upon the consent ofCity Council.  By approving such sale by either motion or as part of aconsent agenda, City Council is authorizing the City Manager to sell theproperty, confirming that the property is not needed for a Municipal purpose,and confirming the property is valued at less than five thousand dollars($5,000.00).

      (3)   AnyCity-owned real property which is estimated to be worth five thousand dollars($5,000.00) or more shall be sold in accordance with the procedure set forth inthis division (a)(3).

         A.   Ifthe City determines that real property should be sold, the City Manager, or hisor her designee, shall cause the real property to be appraised.  If theappraised value of the real property is less than five thousand dollars($5,000.00), the real property may be sold in accordance with division (a)(2)of this section.  If the appraised value of the real property equals orexceeds five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), the City Manager, or his or herdesignee, shall cause the sale of the property to be advertised one time in anewspaper of general circulation in the City.  The real property shall besold in an “as is” condition unless otherwise indicated by theadvertisement.  The City shall receive bids on the real property for aminimum of 15 calendar days from the date of the advertisement.

            1.   Uponthe opening of the bids, each bid shall be evaluated to determinewhether,  (1) it is the highest bid, (2) it equals or exceeds theappraised value of the real estate, and (3) it conforms to the advertisement,and more specifically, contains no contingencies not specified in theadvertisement.  If a bid is the highest bid, equals or exceeds theappraised value of the property, and is free of contingencies not specified inthe advertisement, the bid may be accepted, upon the consent of CityCouncil.  By approving such sale by motion or as part of a consent agenda,City Council is authorizing the City Manager to sell the property, confirmingthat the property is not needed for a Municipal purpose, and confirming the bidas the highest and best bid.

            2.   Ifno bid is found to be the highest, above the appraised value of the propertyand contains no contingencies not specified in the advertisement, all of thebids shall be submitted to City Council for their review.  City Councilmay reject all bids, or it may approve, by legislative action, the sale of thereal property to the bid it determines, in its sole discretion, to be the“highest and/or best” bid.

         B.   Ifan offer is made to the City to purchase a parcel of City-owned real property,which has not been advertised for sale in accordance with division (a)(3)A. ofthis section, the City Manager, or his or her designee, shall cause the realproperty to be appraised.  If the appraisal value is less than fivethousand dollars ($5,000.00), the real property may be sold in accordance withdivision (a)(2) of this section.  In all other cases, the offer shall becompared to the appraised value of the real property.

         C.   Ifthe offer is more than 10% below the appraised value, the offer may be rejectedby the City Manager or his or her designee.

         D.   Ifthe offer equals or exceeds the appraised value, or is less than 10% below theappraised value; or if the City Manager determines, in his or her solediscretion, that an offer not meeting these criteria should be considered, thereal property will be advertised one time in a newspaper of general circulationin the City.  Offers to purchase the real property will be received by theCity for a minimum of 15 days from the date of the advertisement.

            1.   If,after advertisement, the City receives no other offers for the real property,and the original offer is equal to or greater than the appraised value of theproperty, the offer may be accepted and real property sold upon the consent ofCity Council.  By approving such sale, either by motion or as part of aconsent agenda, City Council is authorizing the City Manager to sell the realproperty, confirming that the real property is not needed for a Municipalpurpose, and confirming that the offer is the highest and best offer.  Ifthe offer is below the appraised value of the real property, it shall besubmitted to City Council, which may reject the offer, or it may, bylegislative action, approve the sale.

            2.   Ifadditional offers are received upon advertisement, the offers (including theoriginal offer) shall be evaluated and acted upon in accordance with theprocedures set forth in division (a)(3)A. of this section.

   (b)   TheCity Council hereby determines that the procedure to be followed in the sale ofCity-owned real property shall be as set forth in division (a) of this section,and that the provisions of Ohio R.C. Chapter 721 are hereby waived and shallnot be applicable.

(Ord.2002-87, passed 7-16-2002)

 

]]> Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:52:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=46772&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#46772 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : Millions of taxpayers dollars... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=46771&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#46771 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Feb 22 2016 at 1:54pm

Millions of taxpayers dollars invested downtown
How many jobs have been created?
]]> Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:54:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=46771&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#46771 No Bid For $80,000 Building? : Perhaps this is slightly inaccurate,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6283&PID=46770&title=no-bid-for-80000-building#46770 Author: acclaro
Subject: 6283
Posted: Feb 22 2016 at 12:47pm

Perhaps this is slightly inaccurate, but on its face, one might believe initially the Ohio train plan under Strickland got city leadership excited about the potential for a stop at Middletown with mobility all of the state. 

When that train left the station, or fell off the tracks, your choice of metaphor, perhaps city hall had such an emotional investment in downtown, and they just can't let loose of the vision of downtown. Lets also be brutally honest. Larry Mulligan and his parents are powerful leaders in Butler County, associated with education and banking; Fenwick, MUM, and First Financial Bank. They also live downtown. Hence, its apparent there is a vested interest to have a vibrant downtown or the value of any property is diminished significantly. However, it is clear, these efforts have to be centered on Main Street benefit. 

Few can believe anyone seriously would care one way or another, if there were meaningful shops downtown. Besides online purchases, within a 30 minute drive, every establishment or planned one, is within reach. If you like scotch, beer, the most exotic drink on the planet, odds are Jungle Jim's will have it.

Turning to restaurants, Stefano's has been excellent for decades, it isn't moving. The few others are positive additions. You still have all the auto parts stores downtown, and a mix portfolio of very old establishments such as upholstery, smoke shops. Simply put, no one seriously can argue downtown Middletown will be a destination.

Its time the money pit is spread throughout other neighborhoods that are far more deserving than downtown. And its time Talbot Moon question why millions of downtown buildings have been given away really to create an asphalt moat around Main Street. 

It would be much more economical to bulldoze downtown than pay for buildings to give to individuals to create storefronts that will generate minimal foot traffic and even less cash expenditures from retailing. 

After watching the debate for the GOP in Greenville SC over the weekend, certainly a city goal to be announced soon, will be Middletown hosting the next Presidential debate downtown in 2020 for the mid-west primaries and election.          
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