Middletown Forum : Middletown receives low marks

Middletown receives low marks : Anyone else notice how well Monroe...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 22:11:06 +0000

Author: enough is enough
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 10:11pm

Anyone else notice how well Monroe and Lebanon are doing since they relieved themselves of the dead weight of Libby Lolli and Sam Ison.

Middletown receives low marks : I remember the discussion with...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 21:11:40 +0000

Author: VietVet
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 9:11pm

I remember the discussion with Ms. Andrew on the performance topic. I distinctly remember her mentioning the "Value Added" number as being the most important.

According to the chart presented by 409, the Middletown school district received an F for value added.

Guess the stance that Ms. Andrew took on that category, as to importance, is a mute point at this time.

I see we do have some of the newer school board members responding. Judging by the content of their response, it would appear they have been schooled in the art of denial, blaming all but the district, refusing to address the reality of the situation and basically have acquired a degree in passification with a minor in bs ing the public. They have learned quickly to adopt the tricks and trades of a Middletown School Board member in the art of dazzling the public with meaningless rhetoric. Congratulations new members. You will do well in this school system. Just don't think of joining any that would be competent. You are not alone in this. City Council has a grooming program of their own offering the same amenities.

Middletown receives low marks : Upon reading the response from...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:38:04 +0000

Author: acclaro
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 5:38pm

Upon reading the response from the school board and the excuses, and proud to be a Middie, let us be swept away quietly into the good night. It done, history, gone.

We didn't fail because we have pride, Middie Pride. Good Lord, what is the Freud term for denial?

http://youtu.be/4Dx5QQfWRuU

Middletown receives low marks : lol acclaro--probably as serious...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:24:18 +0000

Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 5:24pm

lol acclaro--probably as serious as I can be on something like this
just what rating did you expect, and what change were you expecting to see?

Despite the rah rah, those honest and involved realize that most things are NOT getting better in Middietown or Hamiltown. Upscale families and young professionals are NOT making a new home in either community. More quality families are quietly LEAVING both communities.

I have been on the system finance committee, conduct/discipline/climate committee, treasurer search committee, involved with CBI at the Community Center, worked with athletic programs and am very familiar with teachers admin and board members. May you(and a few others here) need to actually spend some time around the schools, the students, the parents and the staff.

Just what exactly do you think that they should be doing that they are not? Every system, staff, student and parent wants the newest and best school facilities for their use. Will the new buildings make a difference?---I hope so in time, however that is just one(albeit costly) piece of the puzzle.

I spend time down at the old school on Vail--it really needs to go. I believe in neighborhood schools for early development, but we won't have that.

Is the situation "unacceptable"?
Absolutely!
But no surprise imo

Middletown receives low marks : The rating should not have been...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 15:47:14 +0000

Author: acclaro
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 3:47pm

The rating should not have been unexpected? You aren't serious are you?

Citizens just spent $150 Mm on school buildings that students don't appreciate nor are making an effort to perform, and the taxpayer should be pleased.

I have moved 10 times in my career, and not once have I ever met a realtor the first comment about a community was the reputation of the school district, you know, location, location, location.

Get real, do you think anyone would move into a city with high taxes already on a property, especially in Bulter Cty with all the attached taxes for everything under the sun, and new school buildings, and we should be pleased with horrible performance? Do you honestly think a business or a resident would want to move in, when the greatest fear and economic analysis, would be do I pay $5,000 on taxes, and $8,000 to send my kid to Fenwick or a private school.

Doug Adkins vision of 2020 just got knocked off having any chance for success. New residents don't move into an area having failing schools, and where taxes are already high from mentally ill levies, senior citizen levies, new school building levies. It reaches a point where even the most ardent cheerleader in Miiddletown sighs and says, "this town isn't worth it." In 2020, not one goal outlined will be reached of any tax revenue growth near $ 4 Million, nor will there be an influx of more houses sold than up for sale. Take that to the bank.

Unacceptable.

Middletown receives low marks : The Ohio Department of Education...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 15:39:29 +0000

Author: John Beagle
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 3:39pm

The Ohio Department of Education released new state report cards Thursday.

The grades are based on state tests for the 2014-1015 school year - the first year Ohio measured students through new Common Core standards and PARCC test.

Full 64 local ohio schools report card

Middletown receives low marks : wtf???? lolthe only surprise to...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:21:56 +0000

Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 1:21pm

wtf???? lol
the only surprise to me is the "outrage" and negative slamming
this rating should have been expected--what has REALLY changed around here?

as long as Hamilton and Middietown hold their current demographics, and our govt(at all levels) continues to reward the un-educated(poorly educated as the Donald calls them) and 2nd/3rd generation govt assisted to a level slightly above the "working poor", there is no real incentive to work towards a meaningful education and career.

Let's get real---there is a serious difference in climate between Hamiltucky/Middletucky and West Chester/Mason,Sycamore. I spent my working life in the trenches of this community. I experienced our level of education/career daily. And I travel a lot outside our city limits to other prospering communities. Need I explain the differences?

Will new school buildings change things overnight? Absolutely not.
But they may well change things over time, as our demographics hopefully change.

Ms.Andrews? I want to hear ideas/comments from our NEW school board members--time for them to weigh in. At least Ms.A had the decency to participate here. Nothing so far from our new members, OR new Council members(who were visible here when seeking election).

A good education is available here if a student wants it. It all comes down to raising and preparing children for a contributing future, from birth throughout adult life. We are all constantly learning and able to improve ourselves. Teachers and admin can only do so much.

I hope that the system begins to hold students(AND their parents) accountable from day 1 upon entering school. How else can we raise ourselves?

Middletown receives low marks : **Districts that have appealed...

Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:47:21 +0000

Author: 409
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 26 2016 at 11:47am

**Districts that have appealed their value-added data.
The state expects to resolve appeals in March.

Middletown receives low marks : I believe Analytical I read you...

Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:38:53 +0000

Author: Cooper
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 25 2016 at 10:38pm

I believe Analytical I read you were or are a leader in real estate.

Yesterday, City Manager Adkins stated as part of his math formula for 2020 tax revenues, 425 new families would move into the city making $40,000. annually. That number is within a few thousand dollars of the federal poverty level for a family of four, and close to section 8 benefits. Analytical, I doubt a family of 4 making $40,000 a year, would qualify for a house loan, and could not afford a home of more than $65,000.

It is this type of demographic City Manager referenced in 2020, and their income level, that is driving school performance down so poorly. Someone get a clue will you, and throw the speakeasy plans and rhetoric into a nearby trash can.

Middletown receives low marks : This represents another elementof...

Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:33:56 +0000

Author: Analytical
Subject: 6285
Posted: Feb 25 2016 at 8:33pm

This represents another element of distressing news that our top municipal government managers fail to consider or ignore in their totally irrational pontifications about 2020, etc. Stop the baloney! Your rah-rah cheerleading is baseless and insulting!