Middletown Forum : AGENDA 3-01-2016 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : AGENDA 3-01-2016 Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:09:19 +0000 Thu, 17 Mar 2016 22:17:54 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6288 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ AGENDA 3-01-2016 : Hard to say middie lover, since... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46934&title=agenda-3012016#46934 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 10:17pm

Hard to say middie lover, since most things are now discussed and decided prior behind the scenes. Frustrating when one would like to hear open discussion and details. Makes watching Council meetings somewhat pointless, however that is how admin and current Council prefers. Sad and somewhat a slap in the face to caring citizens imo, though it explains why many don't care or want to be involved any more.]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 22:17:54 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46934&title=agenda-3012016#46934 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : Apparently Donald Trump's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46932&title=agenda-3012016#46932 Author: FmrMide81
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 2:07pm

Apparently Donald Trump's candidacy has had one effect-the scrutiny of his past real estate dealings have shown all real estate developers that you NEVER use your own money in a deal. Wait for some sucker (say, Middletown fr'instance) to offer to pay things for you.
]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:07:26 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46932&title=agenda-3012016#46932 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : Vivian Moon wrote:<p ="Msonormal">The... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46931&title=agenda-3012016#46931 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 2:03pm

Originally posted by Vivian Moon Vivian Moon wrote:

<p ="Msonormal">The remarks made by Bohannon at the March 1st meeting
concerned the fact that other projects in the downtown area by Robinette have
not been completed due to lack of funding. Bohannon requested proof that
Robinette had the $300,000 needed to fund and open this business.

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<p ="Msonormal">I did watch the meeting and no reference was made by anyone
that Bohannon’s concerns were answered or that Robinette had shared any financial
records with council members before this meeting.
Another sad night for the voters of Middletown when council members are not able to ask questions so they can make an informed vote.

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Interesting. Adding to Vivian's comments...... Then why did Bohannon go along with the program if he didn't receive the information he requested to make his decision? If any of you were on council, and you asked for some info. to make an informed decision, would you have gone ahead and voted to approve this cluster? Would you keep voting to help Robinette out knowing his track record on developing these buildings once he gained ownership of them? Has Robinette been successful and shown any progress toward improving any downtown building since he made the real estate scene in the downtown area? What have the council people been given from Robinette to convince them he has the financial resources to achieve any building improvements?

So now, they are going so far as to ignore council's requests? What is disturbing is members of council, once denied their request, just sit there in silence instead of demanding what they need. Apparently, we weren't too far off calling them puppets for the city. No council member with a spine other than Moon? If so, what a waste the others must be. ]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:03:47 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46931&title=agenda-3012016#46931 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : If they knew the answer, why not... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46930&title=agenda-3012016#46930 Author: middielover
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 2:02pm

If they knew the answer, why not ask him in public meeting. Why are they being so secretive. What does Bohannon and Moon have to hide?]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:02:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46930&title=agenda-3012016#46930 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : They knew the answer. Robinette... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46929&title=agenda-3012016#46929 Author: Dean
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 1:51pm

They knew the answer. Robinette did not have the cash. Awaiting gap cash (100%) from MMF program. ]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:51:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46929&title=agenda-3012016#46929 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : V MOONWhy did Bohanon and TMoon... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46928&title=agenda-3012016#46928 Author: middielover
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 1:45pm

V MOON

Why did Bohanon and TMoon not ask any questions?]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:45:54 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46928&title=agenda-3012016#46928 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : Spiderjohn, you are absolutely... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46927&title=agenda-3012016#46927 Author: Dean
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 12:38pm

Spiderjohn, you are absolutely correct. It will be the commercial and residential property bill having fees and taxes raised to cover the give-aways.

I have been informed through a few city employees Steve Bohannon met with Mr. Robinette privately, and the outcome was pretty much, go pound sand Steve, you are screwing this done deal up. Apparently, Bohannon got the message.

Downtown is obviously going to be a non tax zone, and any business with the give away precedent established, will be demanding everything given by the city, the water tap in fee waived, no taxes, buy the land at city expense.

The actions don't help the property owner values rise, instead, the cause them to drop, associated with the liabilities property owners have on taxes and fees to pay for the give-aways by the city.

Picard says council doesn't get involved in city business, other approving or not approving what the city decides. By meeting with Robinette, Bohannon did the opposite. These practices of behind the door meetings are not justified.         ]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:38:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46927&title=agenda-3012016#46927 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : The remarks made by Bohannon at... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46926&title=agenda-3012016#46926 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 12:00pm

The remarks made by Bohannon at the March 1st meetingconcerned the fact that other projects in the downtown area by Robinette havenot been completed due to lack of funding. Bohannon requested proof thatRobinette had the $300,000 needed to fund and open this business.

I did watch the meeting and no reference was made by anyonethat Bohannon’s concerns were answered or that Robinette had shared any financialrecords with council members before this meeting.
Another sad night for the voters of Middletown when council members are not able to ask questions so they can make an informed vote.




]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:00:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46926&title=agenda-3012016#46926 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : I pretty much agree with all of... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46925&title=agenda-3012016#46925 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 11:25am

I pretty much agree with all of you, and I did not watch or hear about the proceedings(other than the arm-twisting prior to the decision).

Disappointed with how a couple of Council members voted, but not surprised at all.

Don't see why we would wave tap-in fees to a chain that is doing well and will probably do well here--they could pay the $16,000

imo the distillery project has much more risk
so---anyone in town who improves their business property should now ask for a 10-year 100% tax abatement on the improvements?

too many former tax-revenue producing properties are being purchased then gifted to FUCC(friends of councilmembers and cronies) that now pay no taxes of any type and are constantly in need of public support.

All of these tax liabilities(don't forget the schools' share) is being shifted to remaining property owners, along with city fee increases. It all seriously adds up. Seems to me these actions only make it tighter on the non-benefitting citizens.

Does Mr.Robinette even live in Middletown to share these burdens? ]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:25:30 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46925&title=agenda-3012016#46925 AGENDA 3-01-2016 : From what I saw of the meeting,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46924&title=agenda-3012016#46924 Author: middielover
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Posted: Mar 17 2016 at 10:56am

From what I saw of the meeting, Robinette was present to answer questions. Moon asked no question on either the CRA abatement or the $16,000 in fees forgiven to the Wings project.]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:56:59 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6288&PID=46924&title=agenda-3012016#46924