Middletown Forum : Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go Tue, 06 Oct 2026 15:36:25 +0000 Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:27:22 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6397 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : Vivian If the city owns a building... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47595&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47595 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Dec 29 2016 at 11:27am

Vivian
If the city owns a building that is condemned andwill be expensive to tear down and someone is willing to take the building andmakes repairs so that it is usable, how is that a give away?

middielover
This is not a simple yes or no question so I can not answer your question.
A great deal depends on the location of the property and the long term visionof the planning department for the area and how the city acquired the property.

Is the property residential or business property thatwill produce jobs?


 

 

]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:27:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47595&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47595 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : What a great city, What a great... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47594&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47594 Author: Paul Nagy
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Posted: Dec 29 2016 at 7:01am

What a great city,
      What a great post and you have done a great service to the city taxpayers letting them know how their money is continuously wasted and misappropriated by concentrating mostly on the down town with city investment. It has not paid off and demonstrates a lack of knowledge about how to grow a city when its main business leaves. Now we have Ak Steel, Suncoke and the new gas line company. These make the city environmentally dirty and unsafe and will keep a lot of people and businesses from moving in. We have a city manager who is a lawyer who did a lot of harm to many people with Judy Gilliland. Council ignored any candidates who had experience and were qualified to manage a city like Middletown. They chose a lawyer who knows nothing about it and is feeling his way along and keeps wasting money in the name of his "plan".
      The "Pet Projects" and personal protection and benefits to a few need to be stopped. This next election time is the best opportunity we have had in many years to throw the current regime out and let some new younger business people get in and grow Middletown. We have some great younger talent in the city now if we can just get them in the right position. Everyone's vote is more important than ever. But I repeat, this is the time. The Chamber needs to have a plan and take action.
      Thank you again for such an informative post
       Paul Nagy

      
]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 07:01:45 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47594&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47594 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : middielover wrote:VivianIf... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47593&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47593 Author: What A City
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Posted: Dec 29 2016 at 6:24am

Originally posted by middielover middielover wrote:

Vivian
If the city owns a building that is condemned and will be expensive to tear down and someone is willing to take the building and makes repairs so that it is usable, how is that a give away?


I'd like to interject if I may here and offer a viewpoint.......

Let's start by getting one thing out of the way here....

"If the city owns a building"....The city has repeatedly said that they were "getting out of the real estate business". They have made that remark many times in the past. Return question to middielover's question. Why is the city still buying buildings using the taxpayer's money?

The city has purchased several buildings in the past where there were no takers. The Studio Theatre comes to mind here with the million dollar price tag to remove the asbestos. The Manchester was purchased using taxpayer money with a city asking price of 350 thou.....no takers and GIVEN AWAY for a buck with little to no work done on it since that time. The Thatcher Estate buildings were purchased using taxpayer money. Out of that purchase, the old CG&E building is currently being used by CS, the old Barnitz bank building sat for years before a buyer was found (Walden wasn't it?)and the First National Bank building on the corner of Central and Main has had a few tenants over the years. The old Seniors Center was purchased at 130 grand and has sat empty for years now. (Wasn't it given back to the city after some buyer backed out?) Don't remember. And hey, how about the Rose building fiasco to date? That is one giant cluster....Oh, and the old Journal building hasn't been a Sunday stroll in it's development either. And, of course, there's always the old "car hood" PAC, the "flagship of success" in the downtown. Again, using taxpayer money, it was set up with the city purchase of the old John Ross/Armco Steel building and converted into arts studios for their artzy buddies. It has been a revolving door of tenants to date also. And then there are the Moormans with the 75 thou dollar city loan and the old GC Murphy building giveaway.(Was that ever repaid?) A lot of activity but few success stories. Even the most optimistic would honestly have to do a double take on the transaction history in the downtown area.

The point is, IF the city did what it said it was going to do....IE, "Get out of the real estate business", none of this would be an issue because any property transactions would be made in the private sector domain and the city would be totally out of the picture. Instead, the city leaders keep purchasing property downtown to control who eventually moves into that property to protect their little dream of an artzy, "cultural" utopia. (which will never work by the way simply because it will never be accepted by 95% of the people living here). We are blue collar, proud of it and not exactly the most "cultured" people to satisfy the downtown dream of a few people who have no clue what Middletown demographics are all about. JMO ]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:24:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47593&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47593 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : VivianNo answer to my question!... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47592&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47592 Author: middielover
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Posted: Dec 29 2016 at 4:56am

Vivian
No answer to my question!]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:56:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47592&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47592 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : Spider Let us not forget the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47589&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47589 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Dec 27 2016 at 2:10pm

Spider
Let us not forget the other great real estate deal that them boys at City Halldid with the property right next door.
City Hallpurchased the Studio building from Finkleman for $1.
Sooowithin the next five years the tax payers will get the privilege of paying themillion dollars price tag for demo of this building also.
Then after they plant the grass maybe they can sell this property to Robinettealso for $1.
Mercy...

]]> Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:10:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47589&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47589 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : SpiderIn my first post I forgot... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47588&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47588 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Dec 27 2016 at 1:18pm

Spider
In my first post I forgot to include the purchase of the mission on Central Ave for $120,000 by City Hall and then demo cost that were also part of the Robinette give away...
This was more than a give away....this was a gift with a big bow on top of tax payers money.
And how many jobs is this gift going to produce?

]]> Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:18:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47588&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47588 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : The building was not condemned... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47587&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47587 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Dec 27 2016 at 10:16am

The building was not condemned at time of purchase, and was functioning as a cabinet shop.
You honestly need to trace this back to the beginning to understand the amazing journey that has led us to this point.
You couldn't make up anything as crazy as the reality.]]> Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:16:34 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47587&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47587 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : VivianWhile I might agree with... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47586&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47586 Author: middielover
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Posted: Dec 27 2016 at 8:13am

Vivian
While I might agree with you about the city's purchase the fact is they did.
So my question to you once again is:
If the city can unload a building which is condemned and avoid the tear down cost in exchange for someone investing in restoring the building isnt' t that a good (even smart) thing to do?]]> Tue, 27 Dec 2016 08:13:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47586&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47586 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : middieloverAre we talking about... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47585&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47585 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Dec 26 2016 at 4:30pm

middielover
Are we talking about the Robinette deal?
If so, City Hall should not have purchased the cabinet shop property on Vail for $95,000 so they could move their business to begin with.
Then City Hall added the empty lots that face Central Ave, plus tax credits.

]]> Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:30:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47585&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47585 Bronston and Bohannon Need To Go : VivianIf the city owns a building... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47584&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47584 Author: middielover
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Posted: Dec 26 2016 at 3:54pm

Vivian
If the city owns a building that is condemned and will be expensive to tear down and someone is willing to take the building and makes repairs so that it is usable, how is that a give away?]]> Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:54:25 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6397&PID=47584&title=bronston-and-bohannon-need-to-go#47584