Middletown Forum : Section 8 Update http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Manager : Section 8 Update Mon, 05 Oct 2026 22:06:00 +0000 Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:21:03 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6408 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Section 8 Update : Adkins: “This drawdown was by... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47701&title=section-8-update#47701 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Jan 18 2017 at 11:21am

Adkins: “This drawdown was by design and anticipated by all parties.The numbers are exactly where we projected them to be.”

Well now I’m really confused. If you anticipated that theSection 8 vouchers would be reduced simply by the transfer of the MPHA Section8 program to Butler County why didn’t this transferoccur years ago? I remember that Miss Judy suggested this shortly after she washired.

 

 

]]> Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:21:03 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47701&title=section-8-update#47701 Section 8 Update : I'm willing to spend some... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47698&title=section-8-update#47698 Author: Douglas Adkins
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Posted: Jan 18 2017 at 8:00am

I'm willing to spend some time on here talking about projects and answering questions. But I only have so much time to devote to this. I do have a city to run with lots of moving pieces.

The Section 8 numbers are correct and valid. The old number comes from MPHA and we knew where all 1662 vouchers lived within the city. The updated number comes from Warren and Butler Metro added together. They each ran reports for Middletown only.

This drawdown was by design and anticipated by all parties. The numbers are exactly where we projected them to be. ]]> Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:00:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47698&title=section-8-update#47698 Section 8 Update : Here is the link to our MUSA discussion... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47683&title=section-8-update#47683 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Jan 15 2017 at 12:19pm

Here is the link to our MUSA discussion in June 2014 on Section 8. 

http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5768&PN=1&title=section-8

The lawsuits against the city concerning this subject are still before the courts.]]> Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:19:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47683&title=section-8-update#47683 Section 8 Update : Adkins: The 950 number used in... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47678&title=section-8-update#47678 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Jan 14 2017 at 7:49am

Adkins:The 950 number used in the blog post came from asking Butler and Warren metroto run their current numbers of voucher holders living within Middletown.

 

Doug
I must request proof and hard number research of your claim that Middletown has reduced Section 8 vouchers from 1662 to 950living within Middletowncity limits. You are stating as fact that 700 voucher holders have moved from thecity limits of Middletownover the past several years.
Doug, all HUD research clearly shows that once a family gets a Section 8voucher, very few families move away from the area. For you to state that 700families have moved away from Middletownover the past several years is simply unheard of in this program. The only waya large number of vouchers move from an area to my knowledge is because of thedemo of a large apartment complex.

Therefore your research andyour claim of 950 current vouchers must be incorrect.
Please provide us with written proof of this 700 reduction of Section 8 voucherswithin the city limits of Middletown.


]]> Sat, 14 Jan 2017 07:49:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47678&title=section-8-update#47678 Section 8 Update : A Consolidated Plan from 2010... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47676&title=section-8-update#47676 Author: swohio75
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Posted: Jan 13 2017 at 1:37pm

A Consolidated Plan from 2010 shows nearly 600 units in privately‐owned properties that qualify for low income housing tax credits.  Robin Springs at the time was listed with 120 units and all 120 units were LI.

Property owners came before City Council several years ago seeking approval for these Tax Credits as part of their complex remodeling. It's my understanding Council approval is required for these tax credits to be approved at the state or federal level

That doesn't mean all 120 units are filled with Section 8 Voucher holders.  It means that maximum income restrictions apply based on the # of bedrooms/# of residents in a unit.  

I vaguely recall Council adopting a formal/informal policy for staff that Council would not approve Income Tax Credits for new multi-family construction.  
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Posted: Jan 13 2017 at 12:26pm

Jurisdictional boundaries for both Butler and Warren County subsidized rental housing administration is not the issue.  Please explain how the number of current vouchers SITUATED WITHIN MIDDLETOWN CITY LIMITS has mysteriously dropped from your reported 1,660+ over the years to 950 in the past 18-24 months?  Since you recently reported the 950 unit figure, why was it EVER NECESSARY to undertake such a time-consuming and costly city dispute with HUD over the last number of years using 1,660+ as the benchmark?  Which is it?
]]> Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:26:05 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47675&title=section-8-update#47675 Section 8 Update : Let me see if I can find a map... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47674&title=section-8-update#47674 Author: Douglas Adkins
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Posted: Jan 13 2017 at 12:15pm

Let me see if I can find a map that lays it out, but yes, Robin Springs is part of the Warren County count.]]> Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:15:46 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47674&title=section-8-update#47674 Section 8 Update : DougPlease tell me where the CITY... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47673&title=section-8-update#47673 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Jan 13 2017 at 12:11pm

Doug
Please tell me where the CITY LIMITS of Middletown extend to on the East SIde?
Are the Robin Springs Apts., 120 units within the city limits of Middletown? I know they are included in the Section 8 count for Warren County.]]> Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:11:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47673&title=section-8-update#47673 Section 8 Update : Vivian,When MPHA was running,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47672&title=section-8-update#47672 Author: Douglas Adkins
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Posted: Jan 13 2017 at 12:02pm

Vivian,

When MPHA was running, we had 1,662+ vouchers living within the city limits of Middletown. The entire program was shut down and split between Warren and Butler. The 950 I've referred to is the number of vouchers living within the city limits in Middletown at this time as reported by both Warren and Butler added together.   Apples to apples.]]> Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:02:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47672&title=section-8-update#47672 Section 8 Update : Adkins: "At the height of... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6408&PID=47671&title=section-8-update#47671 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Jan 13 2017 at 11:41am

Adkins: "At the height of MPHA, the city had just over 1,700 vouchers operating in the City of Middletown.  By December 2016, that number is down to around 950 vouchers.  The expected dispersion happened as predicted.  As time goes on, we should continue to see reductions in Section 8 in the city."

This is a very misleading statement for the general public tounderstand in my opinion.  The 1,662vouchers managed by MPHA included Section 8 vouchers located in both ButlerCounty and Warren County. 
I believe that all Section 8 housing located East of Dixie Hwy., are nowincluded in the total Section 8 vouchers for Warren County.

Therefore the number of Section 8 vouchers have not really beenreduced…but are now counted and split into two different areas.

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