<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="RSS_xslt_style.asp" version="1.0" ?>
<rss version="2.0" xmlns:WebWizForums="http://syndication.webwiz.co.uk/rss_namespace/">
 <channel>
  <title>Middletown Forum : Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values</title>
  <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/</link>
  <description>This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Income and Property Tax : Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values</description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 08:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
  <lastBuildDate>Sun, 14 May 2017 07:29:53 +0000</lastBuildDate>
  <docs>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss</docs>
  <generator>Web Wiz Forums 10.12</generator>
  <ttl>360</ttl>
  <WebWizForums:feedURL>www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6456</WebWizForums:feedURL>
  <image>
   <title>Middletown Forum</title>
   <url>http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg</url>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/</link>
  </image>
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : You&amp;#039;re so well thought out....</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48182&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48182</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1733">Profitthepeople</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;14&nbsp;2017 at 7:29am<br /><br />You're so well thought out. Hope to see you at the next city hall meeting. By chance do you know if the Manchester Inn is for Sale again? It doesn't look like it is but I'm curious.]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2017 07:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48182&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48182</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : In agreement with Vets comments...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48172&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48172</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1685">whistlersmom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;05&nbsp;2017 at 12:21pm<br /><br />In agreement with Vets comments that the lack of communication with Council members and Mayor Mulligan needs to be addressed.  Note that no council member has responded to this forum’s request.  The citizens should not have to beg to initiate a conversation.  Council has written the public off as not worthy of their attention.  Any new council members it seems are quickly indoctrinated as to how things are done and there are no changes or improvement in public relations.  Mr Adkins’ “one on one” offers are still seen as threatening.  It’s Mr. Adkins’s way or the highway.  This is my hometown and there are others who feel as I do….we should not be drummed out of our homes because we have opposing ideas and opinions with Adkins.<br /><br />Adkins’ idea that tearing down our homes and building high end new housing as THE ONLY solution has no basis in fact or reason.  High end housing can not and will not sell in Middletown until the city improves schools, makes the city a safe place for families, and provides amenities that a prosperous demographic would find attractive.  Why isn’t there concentration on bringing business and thereby new jobs into Middletown?  The Journal announced today that all of the variances for O’Reilly were approved!  I think this forum can take some credit for making that possible by constantly criticizing the unreasonable regulations and resistance to their building plans.]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2017 12:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48172&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48172</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : Vet, you are correct to be suspicious...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48171&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48171</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1685">whistlersmom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;05&nbsp;2017 at 12:19pm<br /><br />Vet, you are correct to be suspicious of the city government and their targeted enforcement. It does not matter if there is or isn’t a problem with you or your property.  If the city wants to find something wrong, a lie is as good as the truth to the city inspectors, police and our court. Don’t forget that Adkin’s second favorite pastime (right after destroying every property possible) is abusing our seniors about property upkeep.  Seniors shouldn’t be harassed and have to do without food or medicine to keep their property perfect to prevent Adkins tearing it down. According to Adkins Middletown’s housing stock is our only real problem.  Adkins is now advocating destroying more of our city than ever.  Look around the city.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There is NO rebuilding where the houses have been razed...there are only empty lots which Adkins has decreed will remain vacant.  That’s right!! no one is allowed to build on them.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Adkins must think if every house was new and paying high taxes no one would notice the lack of amenities, poor performing schools, no jobs and a government that destroyed a fine city and then blamed their problems on the citizens’ imperfect properties.  This is indefensible!<br /><br />Chief Muterspaw, your input is very welcome.  Hopefully you can keep an open mind both directions for and against city government.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As to open government, I hope you read on The City Manager’s Blog about how Adkins, himself, described how he coached council to arrive at predetermined decisions before the council meeting.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You also mention that city finances are on line and available to the public.  Did you look at them and notice that many times the same check number shows up with two different “pay to” amounts; and/or reversed or rotating funds to or from revenue (which is the general fund) and to or from enterprise funds (which are restricted from being used for anything other than their specific use)?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The storm water sewer fund is used like a slush fund.  Check the balance of that fund!!! Years of collection on our water bills, representing millions of $’s have disappeared.  The city lagged behind other municipalities, by several years, in putting the “checkbook” accounting on line.  The city”s method of accounting data entry, makes finding and being able to use the information difficult at best.  It’s understood, these are not your doing but they are serious problems that have been overlooked for years.  <br />  <br />Here are some questions that need honest answers (some of these were before your time but still they should not exist today):<br /><br />1. Even though we passed a safety levy that promised no lay-offs in safety personnel, don’t we have fewer police now?  If you in fact made $300,000 in cuts to management in the police department (that wasn’t just Hoffman retiring?) and replaced them with police on the streets, that’s a welcome change.  But if that is true, why do we need to have the State Highway Patrol patrolling our streets.<br /><br />2. How long have you been reading this blog?  Questions from people who care about our city have gone unanswered for years on this blog.  It will take some time to give it a thorough look.<br /><br />3. Have you looked into the fact that the police do not answer their phone? It is easy to say that crime is down if you don’t take police reports. Being the highest crime area in the state, third highest in the country, is not improved by answering your phones with a recording.<br /><br />4. A few years ago there was a problem with no records being kept in the property room. The police officer responsible was written up, but she was exonerated in court.  She was only obeying orders. Money, drugs and guns were all missing.  Where did all that property go?  Were court cases lost and drug dealers released because of missing evidence?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And after 6 or 7 years of no records being kept (of property going in or going out) Les Landen dismissed all inquiries with one look around and announced that nothing was missing.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Has this problem been solved?  Are records being kept correctly?  Can we trust that?  The city’s tax payer has had to bear the cost of court cases and settlements.  How much has this cost us?  <br /><br />5. There are several court records of Middletown police impounding cars illegally and the company that does most of their impounding falsely reporting that cars were sold, or otherwise not able to be returned.  It was proven in a court case, Henry v. City of Middletown•Case No. 15-3119, 5 (6th Cir. Jul. 15, 2016),  that a car was still in possession of Mark’s Towing when they claimed it to be sold.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In that same case it was determined there was an illegal impound.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Do you think that police filing false reports in order to take citizens’ property should be tolerated in Middletown?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Have the police involved been held responsible or disciplined?  Are they continuing to make illegal impounds today?  How can they be trusted?  How much did this court case cost us?]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2017 12:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48171&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48171</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : The discussions are like a band...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48170&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48170</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;05&nbsp;2017 at 8:12am<br /><br />The discussions are like a band aid over a mass cut requiring 100 stitches to seal. It really accomplishes little, other than making others feel good about each other for the time spent.<div><br></div><div>Years ago, and before every levy, I stated the effects of the levies bring brought forth often, with great regularity. The fact is the higher costs associated with levies and tax rate increases, diminished exactly what Middletown was attempting to accomplish. It lowered market attractiveness and elevation of tax base, associated with lowering market demand, its really that simple.</div><div><br></div><div>With lowered market demand, and the poor demographics Middletown has been victim for decades, the schools perform poorly. When the schools perform poorly, the tax rates are high, associated with enormous apathy and the use of voting blocks the city and the school board effectively makes use, and fairly, the problem will never cease. Years ago I called it the Titantic syndrome. The ship going down, and the Perfect Storm signs have been everywhere, and for decades.</div><div><br></div><div>Why would building more new buildings raise property taxes, when market demand is so dismally low presently? Why would focusing on downtown, turn around Middletown? Young professionals excited to move into a system with poor schools that just wont get better....the demographics arent changing, a chronic problem, and crime and homeless still flock the streets at night. The city has gotten so dangerous, stopping to get a sub at Subway or driving a major road system, causes one to be at risk for a bullet and harm in well traveled, and well populated areas.</div><div><br></div><div>At the end of the day, discussions do little to rectify the problem. The problem is too many levies passing by older individuals that have drastically raised property taxes, while demand for property is just dismal and getting worse. That is why Middletown's touted comeback, is rhetorical spin, never to be fulfilled. And to that end, this story and outcome, was told and documented many times over, here on this forum a decade ago. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</div>]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2017 08:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48170&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48170</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : Kids never bothered me. We had...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48169&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48169</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;05&nbsp;2017 at 8:10am<br /><br />Kids never bothered me. We had a nice neighborhood. Very respectable. <br /><br />Now that we have the city manager and police chief on board with communication, would like to see the entire city council participate. Three minutes is just not enough time for a complete discussion and it doesn't fit the typical city council meeting format either. The council public forums vanished with the dismissal of Josh Laubach. Haven't had one from any councilmember for years.  He (and Tony Marconi) were the only two who cared enough to interface with the public and we had some nice discussions back then. I noticed that Mulligan and Scott-Jones were present at one meeting at the Wildwood Country Club years ago. Probably there to monitor and "coach" young Josh to ensure he said the "right things" and to discuss "issues" with him if he didn't. Just speculation on my part but it wouldn't surprise me that that wasn't the case. Mulligan, at times, seems to indicate he wants to keep tight reigns on his fellow council members. Because Mulligan is an MMF member, gotta abide by the MMF doctrine at all costs. <br /><br />Council needs to break the rubber stamping image and start thinking on their own for a change. Need to acquire an independent streak and be their own person. Their current behavior makes them look awfully weak and in the mold of puppets doing the bidding of a higher authority (the MMF) The people don't want that kind of output from the council. They want discussion of the issues before decisions are made, not the current "yes-nodding" nonsense and the automatic unanimous approvals that are listed in the meeting workbooks. <br /><br />No council member (except Bohannon, as it relates to HUD housing landlord discussions here) has participated here. Hell, even Marcia Andrew, to her credit, has talked to us in the past. Why no council members as yet? Does Larry Mulligan think he is above the fray? Let's talk Mulligan (and leave the aloofness at home).  ]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2017 08:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48169&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48169</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : Thank you for the kind words,and...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48168&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48168</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1731">Chief Muterspaw</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2017 at 10:25pm<br /><br /> Thank you for the kind words,and Vet, I'm happy to hear we were neighbors. Hope my kids didn't drive you insane!<br /><br /> I will tell you we have had many community forums over the last two years involving the police department and have brought officers and staff to answer questions, some of them very tough questions. We have always enjoyed that. Some forums we had 100 people, others we had five. As far as getting everyone together with council and the department heads and all of that that is something that will have to come from upstairs  simply because they don't plan for me and I don't plan for them. I know several of our council members are very active in the community and will always be available to talk and I can promise you the city manager is the same way. I do know the Manager goes out of his way to be available.<br /><br />I can see the distrust from years past and as a resident of Middletown for most of my life of the other than going away to college I can surely figure out why that is. All I am saying is give us a chance and work with us instead of writing us off. This is a new administration with new people and I can assure you it is people who have Middletown in his best interest.<br /><br />My door is always open and we've never said no to speaking with our community.  We actually thrive on that. If being here makes us more transparent then I'm happy to hear that. There is some distrust left in the city but we need to get rid of that to move forward. If I put aside the fact that I'm the police chief and look at the city as a taxpayer only I can certainly tell you I would be very happy with the moves that are being made, regardless  of rumors and innuendo going around. I know the struggle and stress the department heads have every day trying to make this a better city ....give us an opportunity to make positive changes. No, we're not going to make everyone happy, not in government, but we can try to make this a better place to live.<br /><br />Take care and reach out if you ever need anything- rodneym@cityofmiddletown.org<br /><br />]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 22:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48168&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48168</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : Vet&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s suggestion that we could&#226;&#8364;&#339;start...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48167&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48167</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1685">whistlersmom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2017 at 4:36pm<br /><br />Vet’s suggestion that we could&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“start communication between citizens and officials with a community forum that would include the city manager, all council members, the police chief and any others the people may wish to address, where the questions aren’t screened beforehand and the responses couldn’t be pre-rehearsed.”&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;...would be an ideal situation.<br /><br />This describes how good city government responds to the people they represent.  Actually, City Council IS responsible for keeping an open dialog with citizens.  But too many constraints are placed on citizens’ ability to express concerns in our Council meetings.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Even to be considered to make a comment, you must request beforehand to speak and you will be limited to three minutes.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Your request can and will be denied at council’s discretion.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Also, no other open forums have been offered for citizens which involved all city officials, and allowed open question and answer sessions.<br /><br />Yes, having our Police Chief Muterspaw join and contribute to this forum is a plus! More please!<br /><br />Just one cavieat...no city official has yet responded to Vet’s great suggestion.  Don’t hold your breath.  They are the one’s who are hiding ….behind their official status….so out of reach, so out of touch and perhaps short of answers for our questions.<br /><br />]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 16:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48167&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48167</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : Community Revitalization Performance...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48166&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48166</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1671">Analytical</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2017 at 2:45pm<br /><br /><b><font size="3">Community Revitalization Performance (2009-17)</font></b><div><br></div><div><table ="tableBorder" align="center" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" style="width: 978px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; table-layout: fixed;"><t><tr ="msgOddTableRow" style="height: 200px; min-height: 200px;"><td valign="top" ="msgLineDevider"><div ="msg" style="border: 0px; width: 823px;"><b>HUD Section 8 (Housing Choice Voucher Program)</b><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins oft-stated main goal was to reduce the number of Middletown's vouchers by nearly 50%</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins secondary goal was to replace C.O.N.S.O.C. as the consultant program administrator</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins hired a new program administrator as well as housing quality standards inspection firm</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins obtained a $250,000 +/- software program to streamline data processing and information needs</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins a short time later replaced the original housing quality standards inspection firm</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;An unknown amount of city funds were spent for consultant, legal and other expenses in the dispute with HUD</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;All program administration responsibilities were eventually transferred to Butler and Warren Housing&nbsp;<br><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;"><b>Owner-Occupied Housing Rehabilitation Program</b></div><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins eventually terminated this long-standing target area betterment program</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;In 2008 over $550,000 was invested in the rehabilitation of 30+ target area properties</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins eventually transferred more than $500,000 in revolving loan funds for residential demolition</div><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;"><b>Emergency Home Repair Program</b></div><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mr. Adkins has roughly $50,000 allocated to People Working Cooperatively for very small rehab projects</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As late as 2008 over $500,000 in city, PWC and Federal Home Loan Bank funds were available</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As late as 2008 up to $12,500 per homeowner was available for moderate rehab activities</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; As late as 2008 nearly 100 homeowners received an average of $5,500 in housing code/other improvements</div><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;"><b>First-Time Home Buyer Education Program</b></div><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; City staff and LifeSpan, Inc. staff assisted 300 first-time purchasers from October 2007 through September 2008</div><div style="border: 0px;">&nbsp; &nbsp; Later, this partnership entity was transferred to a different non-profit solely administered activity</div><div style="border: 0px;"><br></div><div style="border: 0px;"><b>NOTE:&nbsp;</b>&nbsp;Other information will be forthcoming for the 1) &nbsp;First-Time Home Buyer Down Payment/Closing Cost Assistance</div><div style="border: 0px;">Program; &nbsp;2) &nbsp;Residential Property Demolition Program; &nbsp;3) &nbsp;Neighborhood Stabilization Program; and, &nbsp;4) &nbsp;Supplemental</div><div style="border: 0px;">CDBG Funding.</div></div></div></td></tr><tr ="postSeparatorTableRow"></tr></t></table><br></div>]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48166&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48166</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : wow--outstanding to have these...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48164&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48164</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2017 at 2:14pm<br /><br />wow--outstanding to have these two "high profile" public officials acknowledging and honestly participating on this forum. I have known and worked with Mr.A and Chief M for quite a while, and can speak highly of their openness, honesty and dedication to our community. They are both available to seriously discuss pretty much all situations. They truly listen and think about your points of view.<br /><br />Doesn't mean that we agree on everything--hardly the case--however I(and they) can accept alternative thinking and never make it personal. They both live here, raise their families here and are very active parts of the community. Can't ask for much more, other than Council getting the message and start communicating similarly(other than when they are running for election).<br /><br />Hopefully this can progress to a very simple form of ? and answer communication available to everyone. It is hardly the screen name that matters---most importantly the message. A true positive move for the uniting of our city. We ALL want the area to prosper, and together we can accomplish that goal much faster and easier imo.<br /><br />Thanx!!]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48164&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48164</guid>
  </item> 
  <item>
   <title>Middletown-High Taxes-Low Values : Chief Muterspaw, welcome to the...</title>
   <link>http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48163&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48163</link>
   <description>
    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6456<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2017 at 9:52am<br /><br />Chief Muterspaw, welcome to the forum. Nice to see city leadership participating in a forum that usually presents itself with an "anti-city" theme in most cases. You and Mr. Adkins, by your participation, have shown me another side of this city leadership that is of a positive nature. By the way, I was a neighbor of yours around the  Woodhall Ct/Stratford Dr area at one time.  <br /><br />Getting better when compared to the Gilleland days under Mr. Adkin's leadership. Still a long way to go to get this city back to respectability. Major damage control is needed by the new administration to fix the issues caused by the former city trashers. Gilleland, Bill Becker and those before them didn't do this city any favors. Decent times ended when Ron Olson started to leave. Maybe before his time. <br /><br />Will say it again, been around here off and on since 1948. Most living here now were not. They do not know how nice the city once was, therefore, their hostility/anger, if they have any, is nonexistent by what has and is transpiring now. The city supporters, including those who support the downtown effort, only see what has happened in the last few decades at best. Those with starry-eyed hope, like most downtown business owners and those that see Donham Plaza as doing no wrong, only see such things because they have no basis of comparison. All they know is what they have seen the last several decades and not the total picture when times were good around here. Of course, there are others who believe all they are told no matter what the circumstances.<br /><br />It may be, in your words as well as Mr. Adkins, that it is becoming a more open and transparent government and we citizens are welcomed to go one on one with any of you, but there is another factor that is preventing that from happening........the trust/vindictive issue. <br /><br />I will not schedule a meeting with any city official, even if advertised as open/honest and of free speech because that would set a person up for scrutiny from the city. Don't laugh. Right or wrong, the climate is present for people to be targeted by city officials. It may be a city pickup truck parked by the curb with no reason to be there except to monitor activities. It may be an internal city building thing where some are targeted for watch on their taxes or water bills. City officials will call it paranoia. To some, it may be very real. I would imagine there is a trust issue that you and others must overcome with many here before a city/resident relationship can begin. I would also imagine that much of this came from the Gilleland era where, supposedly, trust was an issue even within the confines of the city building with her employees. <br /><br />If one were to meet face to face with Mr. Adkins, and voice some displeasure with his city administration,  I would imagine one might think that they are now a target for city scrutiny. That is how far it has gotten as to the division between the people and their government.  <br /><br />Perhaps we can start the communication between citizens and officials with a community forum that would include the city manager, all council members, the police chief and any others the people may wish to address where the questions aren't screened beforehand and the responses couldn't be pre-rehearsed. Perhaps a large gathering may lessen the risk of retaliation as their would be witnesses to the debates to ease the comfort level.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
   </description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 09:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
   <guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&amp;PID=48163&amp;title=middletownhigh-taxeslow-values#48163</guid>
  </item> 
 </channel>
</rss>