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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting :    Analytical wrote:swohio75...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=128">swohio75</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2017 at 9:19pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Analytical" alt="Originally posted by Analytical" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Analytical wrote:</strong><br /><br /><b>swohio75 -</b><div><br></div><div>In response from your earlier "critique" of my post that included <i><font color="#ff0000"><b>only</b></font></i> website facts for the Nicholas Place Apartments project adjoining I-75, I noticed today that monthly rents for 2 Bedroom/1 and 3-4 Bath units have been reduced from $1,145 to $995 monthly (special offer). &nbsp;Larger 3 bedroom units were stated at $1,445 monthly instead of $1,545 (special offer).</div><div><br></div><div>I also learned today from a highly knowledgeable real estate investor that the first of several buildings to encompass this 216 unit development is partially occupied with some additional interior construction still to be completed. &nbsp;The construction status of the other buildings is not known.</div><div><br></div><div>The above makes one wonder about the Middletown area market demand for "luxury" housing even now with reduced monthly rents such as these?</div><div><br></div><div>Nelson Self</div></td></tr></table><div>I can't say what the build out plan and timetable is. &nbsp;I am not surprised at the "special" rates as it is common for complexes under construction to reduce rates and gradually raise them as more buildings come online and the site nears completion.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting : Ok, we had our meeting at JJ&amp;#039;s....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=488">What A City</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2017 at 8:06pm<br /><br />Ok, we had our meeting at JJ's. buddhalite , two ladies and I showed. The rest .....well......<div><br></div><div>Mr. Adkins, Mr. Bohannon, the Chief and Lt Jim Cunningham were there as well. Topics discussed included Section 8, upgrading the housing stock, heroin, crime, the schools and the performance, the city image ,city neighborhoods and attracting decent people to live here. &nbsp;Wanted to discuss the downtown and the fascination with it's development but ran out of time.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Got a different perspective from this meeting as to my opinion concerning certain officials in the city building. Have come to the conclusion that I have been way too critical concerning the efforts to date on fixing the problems of the city. Guess it took a face to face explanation. &nbsp;All city leaders indicated to me that they were well aware of the problems and are attempting to repair the damage that has been done here the last four + decades. They indicated they can't do it overnight, to give them time to expect results. Fair enough.</div><div><br></div><div>It was a different feeling for me to be able to talk to the city leaders and not be confined to a council meeting format but rather have an open, no time constraint discussion about things. They were very cordial.</div><div><br></div><div>I very much appreciate them taking their time to listen and offer feedback on this occasion.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Let's do it again sometime (with more from this forum participating perhaps?). If the next session goes as this one did, I will guarantee you will enjoy the experience. Nothing hostile about tonight's discussion. I think it went well with no adversarial talk in sight.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 20:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting : swohio75 -In response from your...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1671">Analytical</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2017 at 2:44pm<br /><br /><b>swohio75 -</b><div><br></div><div>In response from your earlier "critique" of my post that included <i><font color="#ff0000"><b>only</b></font></i> website facts for the Nicholas Place Apartments project adjoining I-75, I noticed today that monthly rents for 2 Bedroom/1 and 3-4 Bath units have been reduced from $1,145 to $995 monthly (special offer). &nbsp;Larger 3 bedroom units were stated at $1,445 monthly instead of $1,545 (special offer).</div><div><br></div><div>I also learned today from a highly knowledgeable real estate investor that the first of several buildings to encompass this 216 unit development is partially occupied with some additional interior construction still to be completed. &nbsp;The construction status of the other buildings is not known.</div><div><br></div><div>The above makes one wonder about the Middletown area market demand for "luxury" housing even now with reduced monthly rents such as these?</div><div><br></div><div>Nelson Self</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting : mom:&amp;#034;I know for a fact that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;12&nbsp;2017 at 6:45am<br /><br />mom:<br />"I know for a fact that you do not attend council meetings"<br /><br />I've attended my fair share of council meetings mom. Not lately though. A little hard to break away from caregiver status for my paralyzed wife. Would you be willing to caregive for her every other Tuesday night while I attend the meetings to meet your requirement? Doubt that you could handle it anyway. <br /><br />mom:<br />"You did not reach out to the manager to hold your meetings with him that all on this site demanded"<br /><br />Good Lord lady! You know as well as I do the reason that wasn't done. A one on one with the city manager would have resulted in targeting and payback down the road. The city government has had instances of vindictiveness on occasion with the residents of this town. It has been documented. If any of us scheduled a meeting with Adkins it would be like scheduling your own lynching. Who needs the added drama from the city in their lives?<br /><br />mom:<br />"Bob offers a ray of positive vibes and guess who is there to destroy that? All he was doing was offering a positive point of view, commend the chief for his out reach , and you cannot let that happen"<br /><br />Simple. Bob is not immune, just as I am not, to the scrutiny and opposite opinions being posted here. We all don't have to agree with Bob just because he chooses to be positive and more forgiving of city nonsense. When you participate on a forum, you should expect some flak now and then regarding your ideas. Like others here, I certainly have received my fair share of opposing comments. It is the nature of the beast on a forum. So, what, are we suppose to all be kinder/gentler to Bob and those on the city side of things? Kinder/gentler has ruined society, masking real issues to be solved for the sake of hurting someone's feelings. It's a tough cruel world out there mom in case you haven't noticed. Not everything is sugar coated and wonderful. A trophy for participation is a joke.<br /><br />mon:<br />"He puts his money where his mouth is."<br /><br />Oh really? How does he do that? So far, he has just given us his opinions without really providing any backup proof in his critique. Isn't that what you city supporters always demand of us even though there is supporting documentation on this very forum to support much of what is said here. <br /><br />mom:<br />" Also, to answer your question as to why I don't leave it is simple. I, as a strong woman, will not allow the likes of you to bully those of us who are trying to change the city and it's reputation into silence, sir"<br /><br />Then don't suggest that Bob leave. Stay strong mom. Again, why do you think you are being bullied on here? We are all trying to get our points across and just because some have a stronger "writing technique" than others doesn't necessarily define a bullying event. Some are more insistent than others IMO. Again, nature of the beast on an open forum mom. You want me to E-Mail you a Hurt Feelings Form? Got one here at work. <br /><br />mom:<br />"There are great things happening downtown with all of the new restaurants, wine shop, and vodka distillery"<br /><br />Perhaps, but these <br />great things" only encompass less than 3-5% of the population therefore severely limiting the effect it has had on the city's other 98%. The "great things" going on downtown are for a very small contingent of so-called "culturally motivated" people. It is of no interest to the vast majority and therefore, not of any major value. <br /><br />mom:<br />"These are exciting times! Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way"<br /><br />My hometown too mom. I was here long before most in the city building and most who are trying to develop the downtown. Instead of full speed ahead with a downtown gameplan for the arts and fru fru, it would have been more correct to have asked those who have been here for awhile what they wanted for their city as well. You don't come into a town as a newby, start pushing your way around, changing the direction of the city without offering those who were here well before you an opportunity to have input into the direction of the city. That is rude and unprofessional and it has created some hard feelings with some of the long term citizens. Perhaps we don't want the arts and the fru fru shops downtown. Perhaps we don't want this "culture" crap forced down our throats. Perhaps the new people should have respected the old guard by at least asking for our input and placing a value on it as well after we told you our desires for our city.  <br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 06:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting : And, Vet sir, you prove my point....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">middiemom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;11&nbsp;2017 at 10:29pm<br /><br />And, Vet sir, you prove my point. You cannot get out of the past. It is truly a sight to behold. People now are trying to make decisions based on the good of the city and trying to get us out of our rut that was created by PAST administrations. get on board and help out. I know for a fact that you do not attend council meetings. You did not reach out to the manager to hold your meetings with him that all on this site demanded. Doug could say the sky is blue and you would find something to disagree with him on. Bob offers a ray of positive vibes and guess who is there to destroy that? All he was doing was offering a positive point of view, commend the chief for his out reach , and you cannot let that happen. You even resort to calling him "Bobby" which, by the way, I noticed you didn't do again. &nbsp;He puts his money where his mouth is. The rest is hot air. Also, to answer your question as to why I don't leave it is simple. I, as a strong woman, will not allow the likes of you to bully those of us who are trying to change the city and it's reputation into silence, sir. There are great things happening downtown with all of the new restaurants, wine shop, and vodka distillery. These are exciting times! Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting : Ok mom, I&amp;#039;ll ask the question...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;11&nbsp;2017 at 5:37pm<br /><br />Ok mom, I'll ask the question once again just in case you missed it the first time.<br /><br />If participating on this site is a waste of time, and you have suggested to Bob to stop being involved, WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO POST ON THIS SITE?<br /><br />Why don't you take your own advise and sign off for the last time?<br /><br />You are demonstrating the same thought process that all city officials, city supporters and those who want to live the city planned dream do. You want to bitch about how negative we are on this forum, yet you still want to add your snide little two cents worth on the insults. Why? <br /><br />Just leave for greener pastures if you don't like the grass in this one. No one will get mad if you depart. You won't hurt our feelings if you go. <br /><br />Do yourself a favor and say goodbye.<br /><br />OR, are you just like us and want a venue to complain about things as you claim we do? You're no better than we are so come down off the "holier than thou" throne lady and take your rose-colored, Jim Jones kool-aid drinking, accept all they tell you opinions with you. It is amazing just how clueless and gullible some people are when the facts are right in front of them. How in the hell do you think the city got from All-American status five + decades ago to the early stages of a ghetto we have now? Bet you weren't even around to make the comparison, were you? How can you support past and present city leaders that have brought us to where we are now? ]]>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting : Bob, you truly are wasting your...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">middiemom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;10&nbsp;2017 at 4:34pm<br /><br />Bob, you truly are wasting your breath on this site, and more importantly, with Vet. You could give him and the others a million dollars as a gift and they would get out the pitchforks and torches and demand to know where you got it and how long have you been holding out on them. None of them will be at that meeting. None of them. &nbsp;I'd find another forum, if there is one, to propose your positive agenda. It will be met with constant negativity and rejection on here. Doug has given them their meetings and NO ONE took him up on it. There are only one or two who want to be a part of turning this ship around. The rest on here just continue to scream "no, no, no" at the top of their lungs, cross their arms and stomp their feet.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" />]]>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting :    buddhalite wrote:Oh yeah...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;08&nbsp;2017 at 8:47pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by buddhalite" alt="Originally posted by buddhalite" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>buddhalite wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br><div>Oh yeah - as a parting shot - thanks for nothing. &nbsp;This topic is almost #2 in all time views on this forum (from what I can see - no report to view, just anecdotal evidence and it's only 2.5 weeks old) - and was headed for #1 - but who cares anymore.</div><div></td></tr></table></div><div><font size="2">Buddhalite:</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Just FYI, this topic is no where near #2 in number of views and it is doubtful it will ever come close to number one.&nbsp; There are topics on this forum that have had <b><i>well over 10,000 views</i></b>, and have done so with less than two full pages of posts!&nbsp; (This topic has nearly FOUR pages of posts.)</font></div>]]>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting :   buddhalite wrote:VietVet,Did...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;08&nbsp;2017 at 6:48am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by buddhalite" alt="Originally posted by buddhalite" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>buddhalite wrote:</strong><br /><br />VietVet,<div><br /></div><div>Did you take your medicine today?  LOL  You are a crack.  </div><div><br /></div><div>Bob</div><div><br /></div><div>PS.  You ever call me 'Bobby' again - we will have problems.  Petty, maybe - but I've never disrespected anyone here.</div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />You are the medicine Bob. Great entertainment at times. Wow, wearing our temper on our shoulder today as well? And pray tell, what kind of problems are we going to have? Your profile indicates a Bob N. as your name. Bob can be referenced as Robert or Bobby as well. And just how is using a proper name disrespecting you? If I wanted to do that, I would have called you a clueless wonder, a city shill or something worse. Didn't do that did I? ]]>
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   <title>Housing - from last council meeting : VietVet,Did you take your medicine...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1732">buddhalite</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6466<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;07&nbsp;2017 at 10:17pm<br /><br />VietVet,<div><br></div><div>Did you take your medicine today? &nbsp;LOL &nbsp;You are a crack. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Bob</div><div><br></div><div>PS. &nbsp;You ever call me 'Bobby' again - we will have problems. &nbsp;Petty, maybe - but I've never disrespected anyone here.</div>]]>
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