Middletown Forum : Kettering Medical Denial

Kettering Medical Denial : Critical remarks are expected...

Tue, 19 Sep 2017 18:12:33 +0000

Author: whistlersmom
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 19 2017 at 6:12pm

Critical remarks are expected and appreciated. I’m happy to seethat attention is being paid to this forum and that corrections areoffered when thought to be needed.

However, and I could be wrong, I thought that the minutes had beenposted and were taken down because I read (somewhere) the commentsand questions that Mr Moon made concerning Bar Boca, and MrBohannon’s “abstain” on the vote for the purchase. I don’tsee those quoted from the 9/5/2017 council meeting, in the JournalNews. Tell me … anyone else …were Mr Moon’s comments quoted inthe Journal? Where else could it have been in print?

My sincere apologies if I’m incorrect! It is not my intention tocause more problems, but to bring attention to problems that needsolutions.

Kettering Medical Denial : Thanks for your clarification...

Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:05:44 +0000

Author: Analytical
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 19 2017 at 11:05am

Thanks for your clarification MiddletownScouter. And, frankly, just like Whistler'sMom, I also was beginning to wonder about the reasons for the city's abnormally late website posting of tonight's city council agenda and workbook myself.

I understand from a very reliable source that two city council members are in favor of approving the Kettering Hospital's zoning request. As for the other three council members, at least one opposes the subject request?

As swohio75 points out, this matter will be resolved one way or another next month. I do wish to thank Whistler'sMom for being such an active MUSA participant. He/She has offered many interesting opinions plus probing questions for senior city staff to SOMEDAY answer.

Kettering Medical Denial : whistlersmom wrote: Has...

Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:56:05 +0000

Author: middletownscouter
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 19 2017 at 9:56am

whistlersmom wrote:

Has anyone else taken note that the City ofMiddletown website has expunged the minutesrecords from 9/5/17 all the way down to 8/15/2017? Will theyclaim this is inadvertent? The missing minutes just happen toinclude some real discussion (however brief) about Bar Boca. Thatdiscussion still exists on YouTube! OOPS, I shouldn’t havementioned that … they can erase any “undesirable” part of thattoo, at their discretion!!! It’s happened before and was noted onthis forum. Remember the snickering about a very late executivesession being beyond someone’s bedtime? That was removed. Thatwas the only instance that was found. There could be more. Question: Who handles YouTube videos for council?

The city hasn't expunged any meeting minutes from the website. 9/5/17 minutes haven't been approved yet, and the previous meeting was 8/15/17 and those minutes are there. The minutes of the 9/5/17 meeting are currently housed inside the workbook for tonight's meeting (pages 7-10) to be approved by council. Once approved they'll be posted in the minutes section. This is common practice. I am by no means a 100% supporter of the city administration but why try to create more reasons to be upset when there are plenty already there to choose from?

Kettering Medical Denial : I was just out there - and all...

Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:06:09 +0000

Author: buddhalite
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 18 2017 at 10:06pm

I was just out there - and all the minutes that have been accepted and approved by council (minus the last meeting which have not been accepted and filed) are out there.....

Yes, they were posted only today - I assume it was a simple oversight. I say that because I email our Council Clerk and within seconds she emailed me the agenda - and had gotten it posted. I don't know why this delay is so bothersome, but I'll digress.

As for me - I will be there tomorrow just to make my opinion known about the bar purchase & Kettering - and then let them do their thing. Everyone here who is so opposed to all this should be there too....

Kettering Medical Denial : FINALLY the agenda and workbook...

Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:30:11 +0000

Author: whistlersmom
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 18 2017 at 7:30pm

FINALLY the agenda and workbook for the9/19/2017 council meeting was posted one day in advance!

WOW, can you hear the grinding of the wheels ofprogress in our so called “fair” city?

All the better to avoid having to give anynotice of something that may be objectionable to the citizens whomight wish to discuss whys and wherefores of predeterminedacceptance/rejection of legislation which will of course NOT bediscussed by council in the meeting. The “Sunshine Law” is againset on it’s head and totally ignored!

Also let’s examine thisoccurrence and use of executive session and the reason for it.

Quote from agenda for 9/19/17:

EXECUTIVE SESSION

Under the authority of O.R.C. 121.22 (G) (2) Toconsider the purchase of property for public purposes, or for thesale of property at competitive bidding, if premature disclosure ofinformation would give an unfair competitive or bargaining advantage

Since we can not trust council to giveadequate, or at times, ANY opportunity for input or discussion inpublic sessions why should we trust that they are not going todiscuss, in executive session, ANY “sensitive” issues they wantto hide from public view (like the Kettering rezoning) in addition tothose that are announced ? Or behind closed doors, use undue pressureon any council members who might not be in agreement (on Ketteringrezoning?) with the “powers that be”?

Kettering Medical Denial : Analytical wrote:According...

Mon, 18 Sep 2017 16:31:54 +0000

Author: swohio75
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 18 2017 at 4:31pm

Analytical wrote:

According to the following 9-19-2017 city council meeting agenda, as posted unusually late this morning, the much-discussed Kettering Hospital zoning matter will not be considered at this time.

I believe it was stated that the Planning Commission's decision would go before council for confirmation the next month, which has been usual practice.

Kettering Medical Denial : According to the following 9-19-2017...

Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:32:40 +0000

Author: Analytical
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 18 2017 at 1:32pm

According to the following 9-19-2017 city council meeting agenda, as posted unusually late this morning, the much-discussed Kettering Hospital zoning matter will not be considered at this time.

The subject agenda is as follows:

MIDDLETOWN CITY COUNCIL AGENDATUESDAY, September 19, 2017

It is the policy of the City of Middletown to make all public hearings an meetings accessible to all persons, in accordance with state and/or federallaws. If you have a disability which requires accommodation in order for you to attend and/or participate in this meeting, please contact us at 425-7831 at least forty-eight hours prior to the time of the meeting to advise us of the need for accommodation, and reasonable efforts shall be madeto provide the same.

This agenda may be accessed on the City of Middletown website @ http://www.cityofmiddletown.org.

CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING – 5:30 pm – COUNCIL CHAMBERS – LOWER LEVEL

1. MOMENT OF MEDITATION/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG

2. ROLL CALL

3. CITIZEN COMMENTS, GUESTS, ORGANIZATIONS’ REPORTSJulie-Joyce Smith- Butler County Auditor’s Office

4. CITY MANAGER REPORTS

5. CONSENT AGENDA. . . Matters listed under the Consent Agenda are considered to beroutine and will be enacted by one motion and one vote of consent. There will be noseparate discussion of these items. If discussion is desired, that item will be removedand considered separately.

(a) Approve City Council Minutes: September 5, 2017

(b) Receive and File Board and Commission Minutes:Airport Commission- April 20, May 18, and June 15, 2017

(c) Confirm Personnel Appointments of:• Shelby Quinlivan- Communications Coordinator, Economic Development Department• Devon Back- Dispatcher, Public Safety, Division of Police.• Arnold Finkbine- Staff Attorney, Law Department

(d) Confirm Promotional Appointment of Edward Truster, Equipment Operator,Department of Public Works & Utilities, Division of Street Maintenance.

(e) Authorize the City Manager to enter into a contract with EnvironmentalRemediation Contractor to proceed with the Fixed Explosive Gas Mitigation Systemproject at the closed Middletown Landfill.

COUNCIL COMMENTSMIDDLETOWN CITY COUNCIL AGENDATUESDAY, September 19, 2017

This agenda may be accessed on the City of Middletown website @ http://www.cityofmiddletown.org.

LEGISLATION

1. Ordinance No. O2017-40, an Ordinance Amending Chapter 1456 (Chronic NuisanceAbatement) of the Codified Ordinances. (Second Reading)

2. Resolution No. R2017-22, a resolution authorizing the filing of applications for CY 2018with the Ohio Department of Transportation for grants under the Ohio PublicTransportation Grant Program. (Second Reading)

3. Resolution No. R2017-23, a resolution authorizing the filing of an application with theDepartment of Transportation, United States of America, for a grant under the FederalTransit Administration act of 1991, as amended. (Second Reading)

4. Resolution No. R2017-24, a resolution in support of a plan to improve Miami Park toinclude a dog park. (Second Reading)

5. Resolution No. R2017-25, a resolution to make adjustments to appropriations forcurrent expenses and other expenditures of the City of Middletown, Counties of Butlerand Warren, State of Ohio, for the period ending December 31, 2017 and declaring anemergency. (General Fund)

6. Resolution No. R2017-26, a resolution temporarily suspending a portion of a DesignatedOutdoor Refreshment Area and declaring an emergency.

7. Resolution No. R2017-27, a resolution authorizing the City Manager to submit anapplication to the Ohio Public Works Commission for Project Year 32 requesting fundingfor improvements to various local streets throughout the City, to enter into agreementsfor such funding, and declaring an emergency. (No action requested until October 3,2017)

EXECUTIVE SESSION

Under the authority of O.R.C. 121.22 (G) (2) To consider the purchase of property forpublic purposes, or for the sale of property at competitive bidding, if prematuredisclosure of information would give an unfair competitive or bargaining advantage.

Kettering Medical Denial : build it and they will come for...

Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:54:42 +0000

Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 14 2017 at 9:54pm

build it and they will come for healthcare

better than a strip mall or fast food chain

Kettering Medical Denial : That's the right thing to...

Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:24:30 +0000

Author: buddhalite
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 14 2017 at 9:24pm

That's the right thing to do - well, that and actually voicing it to council at the meeting. Make your voice heard!

Kettering Medical Denial : Posted below is a copy of my e-mail...

Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:53:07 +0000

Author: Just wondering
Subject: 6531
Posted: Sep 14 2017 at 5:53pm

Posted below is a copy of my e-mail to Mr. Adkins & city council concerning the new KMC facility.

Dear Mr. Adkins:

After reading the article referenced below, I am appalled that the Middletown city planning commission denied the rezoning request from the Kettering Health Network.

http://www.journal-news.com/news/middletown-planners-deny-kettering-health-network-rezoning-request/CiDHRpoVCFUJ4nWE4lzwfK/

For quite some time the Premier Health/Atrium Medical Center has been buying medical practices, clinics, surgery centers etc., so that they control most medical care and have reduced competition in Middletown.

Atrium is now engaged in a dispute with a major health insurance company over coverage for it’s policy holders because of Atrium’s prices.

Approval of KHN’s plan to provide full service care to the citizens of Middletown would bring much needed competition and convenience to the area.

Please consider the needs of Middletown’s citizens over the wishes of Atrium’s leadership.

I strongly urge you and all members of Middletown City Council to reverse the planning commission’s decision and do everything you can to bring this much needed facility to our community.

Respectfully,

Comments anyone ?