Middletown Forum : City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : Community Revitalization : City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? Mon, 05 Oct 2026 17:01:15 +0000 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:43:35 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6588 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : You're spittin' in the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49244&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49244 Author: FmrMide81
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Posted: Nov 01 2017 at 8:43pm

You're spittin' in the wind-do the math. There's about 1700 members on this site. Roughly 100 post on a semi-regular basis. Maybe 10% of that show up to any event concerning city matters. NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANY OF THE CRAP YOU KEEP WHINING ABOUT!!!!!! If they did, things would change. Why can't you get it through your head that the majority are obviously satisfied that the buses are running and the trash is picked up. All the facts and figures in the world won't make people care. I guess if you get your jollies trying to get back at your former employees then all this pseudo-intellectual nonsense serves a purpose-otherwise it's just a waste of keystrokes... ]]> Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:43:35 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49244&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49244 City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : Former Middie 81 -My suggestion... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49242&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49242 Author: Analytical
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Posted: Nov 01 2017 at 5:27pm

Former Middie 81 -

My suggestion for you is to try concentrating on how your tax dollars have been/are being spent and determining the value/benefit of the outcomes such as these "downtown" deals.  If you're satisfied or pleased with the direction the city is headed, then there's nothing much else for you to think about.
]]> Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:27:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49242&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49242 City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : Probably can't hear you over... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49241&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49241 Author: FmrMide81
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Posted: Nov 01 2017 at 4:42pm

Probably can't hear you over all the axes you're grinding...]]> Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:42:34 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49241&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49241 City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : SWOhio75 -Do you have any comments... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49240&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49240 Author: Analytical
Subject: 6588
Posted: Nov 01 2017 at 3:05pm

SWOhio75 -

Do you have any comments to offer about the several stalled or incomplete city-subsidized "downtown" community revitalization deals?
]]> Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:05:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49240&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49240 City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : SpiderJohn,I agree/empathize... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49225&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49225 Author: Analytical
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Posted: Oct 30 2017 at 10:15pm

SpiderJohn, I agree/empathize with you plus other business owners outside of "downtown"!  As for prospective re-developer "vetting" procedures/standards, contents of property conveyance documents/re-developer covenants, compliance monitoring, etc., I have no knowledge of how things are done here.  May I suggest that you speak with Vivian Moon as she's obtained some relevant city economic development-related documents of note.]]> Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:15:18 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49225&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49225 City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : Irony being that most businesses... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49223&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49223 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Oct 30 2017 at 7:56pm

Irony being that most businesses on the receiving end are as capable or better to pay the tax than are those citizens and other like businesses who catch the extra burden
does anyone monitor pre-conditions and compliance?]]> Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:56:30 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49223&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49223 City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : Middletown and "Downtown"... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49222&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49222 Author: Analytical
Subject: 6588
Posted: Oct 30 2017 at 5:18pm

Middletown and "Downtown" Tax Abatement Deals
Three More Informative Ohio Links -- Who Cares???

Columbus Dispatch -- Updated December 5, 2015
Property-tax breaks for developers shift burden to other taxpayers

https://search.aol.com/aol/search?s_it=webmail-searchbox&q=property-tax%20breaks%20for%20developers%20shift%20burden%20to%20other%20taxpayers

WCMH TV - Columbus -- Updated June 22, 2017
You Paid For it: Are Columbus tax abatements a burden on taxpayers?

http://nbc4i.com/2017/06/22/you-paid-for-it-are-columbus-tax-abatements-a-burden-on-taxpayers/

Dayton Daily News -- August 28, 2015
Downtown Dayton:  80 Percent of Property Tax is Exempt from Taxes

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/local/downtown-dayton-percent-property-exempt-from-taxes/3f6F56vSsCN4e6HtrmZmNJ/
]]> Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:18:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49222&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49222 City Tax Abatement Deals -- Who Cares??? : WHO CARES??? Don't Middletown... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6588&PID=49221&title=city-tax-abatement-deals-who-cares#49221 Author: Analytical
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Posted: Oct 30 2017 at 4:57pm

WHO CARES??? Don't Middletown taxpayers deserve to know the full public cost of "downtown" tax abatements, city-owned building and/or land give-aways, direct financial "gifts" prior to (and during) the start of actual proejct re-development construction, project completion deadlines, city recourse for re-developer delinquent payment of Butler County property taxes, etc., etc.?  Provided hereafter are four geographically diverse broadcast and print media thought-provoking links on this oft-discussed topic:


Middletown and "Downtown" Tax Abatement Deals
Informative Links -- What's Your Take On This Topic?

Cincinnati, Ohio -- WCPO TV -- Updated October 8, 2017
Over The Rhine Downtown Developers Cash-In On City's Property Tax Deals

http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/otr-downtown-developers-cash-in-on-citys-property-tax-deals

Springfield, Missouri -- News-Leader -- 10/3/2015
Tax Incentives Play Part in Building Boom Cost

http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/watchdog/2015/10/03/tax-incentives-play-part-building-boom-cost/73280402/

Indiana Economic Digest -- October 28, 2017
City of Evansville, Indiana To Review Tax Abatement Deals

http://www.indianaeconomicdigest.net/main.asp?SectionID=31&subsectionID=299&articleID=42273

GOVERNING: The States and Localities -- March 13, 2017
When It Comes to Tax Incentives, How Transparent Is Your City?

http://www.governing.com/topics/finance/gov-economic-development-incentives-good-jobs-first.html
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