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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : I;m very sorry Vet to learn of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;09&nbsp;2018 at 8:25am<br /><br />I;m very sorry Vet to learn of your wife's passing. You were very devoted, and caring.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan :   acclaro wrote:Thank you Vet....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;04&nbsp;2018 at 2:34am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by acclaro" alt="Originally posted by acclaro" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>acclaro wrote:</strong><br /><br />Thank you Vet. Just stopped in for a minute. I do hope your wife is doing better or at least, not declining. </td></tr></table> <br /><br />Sadly, my wife passed away on May 10th at Sycamore Hospital. She died of endocarditis, an infection in her heart. Son and I miss her terribly. Thank you for remembering her. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;03&nbsp;2018 at 1:37pm<br /><br />Thank you Vet. Just stopped in for a minute. I do hope your wife is doing better or at least, not declining.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : Welcome back acclaro. </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2018 at 5:10pm<br /><br />Welcome back acclaro.]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : middiemom:&amp;#034;They talk a big...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2018 at 5:05pm<br /><br />middiemom:<br /><br />"They talk a big game but when it comes down to it NONE of you put your money where your mouth is. Save for Mike Presta"<br /><br />Others who have participated on this site have run for office middiemom.....Paul Nagy and Nick Kidd come to mind. I'm sure there are others who have run for office as well. I have run for office in the past. Spiderjohn has been on numerous committees too. <br /><br />middiemom:<br /><br />"We have people who actually are trying to make a difference and all you want to do is tear them down. SHAME!!!"<br /><br />Yes and I congratulate you for your interest in the city and for trying to make it better. The problem is, that despite your efforts to date, the overall results have, quite frankly, been disappointing. First of all, the people who have started businesses in the downtown to make that difference, have been given taxpayer money rather than to have used their own money for a private enterprise startup. That is wrong to use public money for private endeavors. Additionally, the difference you mention has been in the form of businesses that do not entice blue collar people to visit. The demographics of Middletown do not support the new businesses in the downtown area. 95% of the people in this city simply are not interested in what the downtown has to offer leading to what we have seen.......a high turnover of businesses in the downtown and a lack of foot traffic. Gimmicks like the DORA are now used to entice people. The most successful event is the Bash series which features music enjoyed by the people of this city. The downtown business startups only attract 5% of the population at best. Unless those businesses pull from out of town, I can't imagine any having any reasonable foot traffic in their stores. My son and I tried Blast Furnace Pizza on a Saturday afternoon a month ago. I noticed, while sitting looking out at Central Ave., that there were few people on the streets, some traffic flow probably using Central through downtown from West Middletown as a cut through to go elsewhere in town. There were five people in the pizza shop including us. It was just dead down there. Went to Crabapple Bookstore and to the music/guitar shop across the street from Blast Furnace. You can find what they have at any flea market around here and the flea markets have many more people attending. No "shame" to it. Just the way it is as observed. Show some progress as to interest in the commodity. Show some crowded sidewalks. Show some actual life downtown and the "tearing down" will not be needed. Until then, any and all embellishment as to progress in the downtown will not be believed. I just don't see it to date. Flower planters, gimmicky storefronts, fancy flags on poles and signs and the "Old Tyme General Store mixed with some cultural/crafty/artzy stores" theme just doesn't do much for the majority living here. Most can't afford the prices nor are they interested in the artsy merchandise anyway. IMO. those who think they can mix a cultural/artzy theme with a blue collar community are out of touch with reality but they keep trying....after more than a decade. The theme of the downtown would go over better in Oxford or Yellow Springs.... not a historic blue collar industrial city. We are not upscale. We are a McDonald's type of town simply because of the income levels living here. To force fit the upscale, cultural climate is a mistake that will never happen here. ]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : Ah, I thought traffic calming...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1405">itsamee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2018 at 1:08pm<br /><br />Ah, I thought traffic calming was something else. Putting in things like round-a-bouts or making things safer for pedestrians by diverting traffic. Intentionally clogging traffic on the otherhand seems like a bad idea.]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : Firstly, regarding studies, and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2018 at 12:22pm<br /><br />Firstly, regarding studies, and such, the chief bottleneck in Middletown, is the train running to AK. Other than that, and a decision to close streets for events, parades, walk around outside from bar to bar with open carry, there isn't a need for a study. Is it a duty, responsibility, to look forward? Of course. Is it mandated by a study, as if some master plan is required, for the enormity of traffic downtown? No. Not at all.<div><br></div><div>Secondly, if one were to post what has been said here a decade past forward, one would just insert IBID, over and over. Its the same caption, same story, same end game. FACT- Middletown has the highest taxes in Butler Cty. FACT- schools are not advancing in performance nor status. FACT- Housing stock is not rising, in spite of the false increase in taxes in Butler Cty, including Middletown, that only exacerbates a very bad situation that began years ago....IBID.</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, to those willing to run, in contrast to those that don't, or won't. MEMO to Mom. Its apathy and realization this city is running on empty. Hamilton has done a better job only because there is enough students from Miami to pull from that area ergo Next gen, millenials, and Middletown just doesn't get the push nor pull-through.</div><div><br></div><div>Good businesses downtown, the wine store nice ambiance, cool bike shop, but with exception of Triple Moon, most aren't visited or gain enough traffic to make their existence viable, other than tax write offs or break even status from enough city locals that do come in to keep them open before boarding then down.</div><div><br></div><div>For those that run, great, but what has been accomplished? Go back again....10 years just on this forum, and status quo is an understatement. Its truly IBID.</div><div><br></div><div>MEMO to Mr. Adkins. Its the trains that are the bottleneck, just like Hamilton, remnants for 60-70 years ago, that still flow blocking traffic.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : Hahahahahaha! Bob, this discussion...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">middiemom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2018 at 10:12am<br /><br />Hahahahahaha! Bob, this discussion comes up every election or so. The we need to have people on this site run for office is old and tired. They talk a big game but when it comes down to it NONE of you put your money where your mouth is.  Save for Mike Presta. Just a bunch of blowhards with the same old tired message and no guts. We have people who actually are trying to make a difference and all you want to do is tear them down.  SHAME!!!]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : I have always been treated with...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1732">buddhalite</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2018 at 9:29am<br /><br />I have always been treated with kindness - rapt attention - of course my viewpoint went over like a fart in church each time, but I havent had that experience.<div><br></div><div>This election cycle we elect THREE members of council.&nbsp; We need THREE of us to stand up and stand out and run - we get all three elected we now have a majority and it no longer mattes what the MMF puppets think, say or do, right?</div><div><br></div><div>As I have said many times before - who will it be?&nbsp; Whom will it be?&nbsp; When the first one stands up it'll encourage the second person then the third will be easy.</div><div><br></div><div>But it's gotta be some of us....</div>]]>
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   <title>New City Transportation Plan : Josh Laubach comes to mind as...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6907<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2018 at 8:07am<br /><br />Josh Laubach comes to mind as an example of a decent, caring candidate who asked the hard questions and was the only council person to have community forums at Wildwood CC and other locations. I did notice that when Josh had his forums, Larry Mulligan and Anita Scott-Jones were present, no doubt to "monitor" his responses to the questions being asked. Don't know for sure but putting two and two together, I would guess that he, Mulligan and Scott-Jones had some "teaching moments" for the young council member back then. He started out strong in his commitment to the people and left appearing to be frustrated to me. I got the impression he seemed to be placed in the backseat and was ostracized for supporting the average citizen. This, of course, happening behind the scenes. <br /><br />People here don't run because they don't want to play the game that is required sitting at the council desk. They don't like the policies, the theme, the city direction and focus and the excessive money placed in the downtown to protect the S. Main St. influential people's property including Mulligan. It just isn't worth the hassle of campaigning, winning and then finding out, even with best intentions, your opposing ideas aren't heard and eventually, you are treated like an outcast on council with an inability to have your ideas considered. The current block of MMF puppets will not entertain your new ideas if they deviate from their designed game plan. If you are a boat rocker, you stand no chance of influencing this city government. They will not listen to new ideas. Been going on for decades. <br /><br />Don't believe me? Try going before council at the podium for three minutes and see for yourself. If they like what you are saying and you are massaging their egos and it goes with their gameplan, you get more than three minutes before the little light goes on. They will listen intently. If you offer anything outside the realm of their gameplan in a complaining fashion, they are not open minded enough to listen to your comments and the light goes on at the three minute mark. They are distracted and "shuffling papers" while you speak. They would like to shut you down earlier than that if it didn't look so obvious. <br /><br />The city has always had their have and have nots, their inner circle favorites and those considered less important. Influential families get you recognized here. Always has. A real boss hogg, backroom backslappin' kind of environment down at city hall. Just pay your taxes, keep your mouth shut and don't interfere with daily business UNLESS you agree with what they are doing to this city. JMO]]>
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