Middletown Forum : Fall 2019 Election http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Fall 2019 Election Mon, 05 Oct 2026 11:32:34 +0000 Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:25:21 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6965 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Fall 2019 Election : Was down in the area where the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51293&title=fall-2019-election#51293 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6965
Posted: Dec 16 2019 at 12:25pm

Was down in the area where the next Hope House is being constructed. Looks very nice—-better than many of the surrounding homes!

Was wondering what those staying there will do with their time—-no near-by local markets or businesses for shopping/employment.
What will the residents do with their time? Is there a dining facility inside? Training/education classes? Parenting classes at Sonny Hill center?

Are we simply spending big $$$ to shift the issue out of the former downtown in to a residential area?
Are the neighbors ok with this?

]]> Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:25:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51293&title=fall-2019-election#51293 Fall 2019 Election : Just remember what Joe Mulligan... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51284&title=fall-2019-election#51284 Author: Dead man walkin'
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 08 2019 at 3:32am

Just remember what Joe Mulligan helped do to Middletown.  DON'T let him do the same thing to all of Butler County!
Vote AGAINST "Joe the RINO" in the primary this March.

]]> Fri, 08 Nov 2019 03:32:46 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51284&title=fall-2019-election#51284 Fall 2019 Election : Would vote for Muterspaw in a... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51280&title=fall-2019-election#51280 Author: VietVet
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 5:59pm

Would vote for Muterspaw in a heartbeat. If he were able to do the city manager's job as well as he performed as police chief, it would do a 180 in changing my opinions of this city government that I have had for decades. He is a hometown boy with first hand knowledge pertaining to the climate and direction of the city and it's many issues.

If we could get the recycled thinking council people like Joe Mulligan and Moon off council, we just might elicit change in thinking and city direction. Otherwise, we have only robots pushing the MMF agenda and that does regular folks living here no favors. It was a start extricating Larry Mulligan and his predictable MMF thinking. Need to follow that up with the other Mulligan when his term is finished. I say give Condrey a chance and a learning curve time period before lowering the boom. Even old Larry Mulligan had a starting point as a mayor and council person. He had his chances for 12 years and never changed his tune. The man is in his 50's and, while never leaving the city, never learned what Middletown was all about.

IMO, going outside for a city manager candidate just might get us an unwanted former city manager from another city. I offer Elizabeth Lolli as an example in the schools. She became a problem in the Middletown schools and went to Monroe with the same negative scene there and now is the Dayton superintendent and their problem child right now. These bad players just start making the circuit taking their issues from town to town leaving a path of negative results behind. The same could happen with a city manager from outside. We know what we would get with Muterspaw and have the added benefit of him knowing the complexion of the city and taking ownership as a home town resident. He adds the important aspect of being a personable, common sense, approachable candidate as well. ]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:59:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51280&title=fall-2019-election#51280 Fall 2019 Election : middletownscouter wrote:Random... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51279&title=fall-2019-election#51279 Author: swohio75
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 12:31pm

Originally posted by middletownscouter middletownscouter wrote:

Random prediction:  Given past history in this town and the current state of council and our City Manager, I won't be terribly surprised to see our now former MPD Chief Muterspaw become our new City Manager in the near future.

I certainly hope not.  Middletown could benefit from outside expertise moving forward.  Not to devalue Muterspaw's contributions.
]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:31:23 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51279&title=fall-2019-election#51279 Fall 2019 Election : spiderjohn wrote:SoWe have... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51278&title=fall-2019-election#51278 Author: swohio75
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 12:30pm

Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

So
We have no police chief or city manager—a new mayor with no local city experience who has lived here for 2 years—a very young emotional council.

Didn’t see this coming
Should be interesting!
And if rumors hold true a new Economic Development Director.

Note the language used to begin termination: 

“no longer desires to employ Douglas Adkins as City Manager because of irreconcilable differences between Council and Mr. Adkins concerning leadership style, and these differences make his continued work as City Manager untenable.” 

Adkins is smart enough and capable enough; but I think there are definitely some leadership style and personality traits that would keep him from being effective moving forward. And his ego.



]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:30:17 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51278&title=fall-2019-election#51278 Fall 2019 Election : True, before he retired he said... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51277&title=fall-2019-election#51277 Author: middletownscouter
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 11:02am

True, before he retired he said he was out of public life for good.  Then within a week or two of his earlier than initially planned retirement he opened the door for a potential city council run in the future.  I don't think he'll be out of the public eye for long, just a personal opinion.

Side note, as I've done for the past couple of years, I've updated the spreadsheet that tracks turnout and voter disengagement/apathy for Middletown area races and ballot items.  Posted details in the thread I've used for it at http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/topic6604_post51276.html
]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 11:02:34 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51277&title=fall-2019-election#51277 Fall 2019 Election : interesting--probably the best... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51275&title=fall-2019-election#51275 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 9:56am

interesting--probably the best thing for citizens and an inexperienced Council/Admin

Don't see him wanting the job though--he did just retire
]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 09:56:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51275&title=fall-2019-election#51275 Fall 2019 Election : Random prediction: Given past... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51274&title=fall-2019-election#51274 Author: middletownscouter
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 9:08am

Random prediction:  Given past history in this town and the current state of council and our City Manager, I won't be terribly surprised to see our now former MPD Chief Muterspaw become our new City Manager in the near future.]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 09:08:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51274&title=fall-2019-election#51274 Fall 2019 Election : SoWe have no police chief or city... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51273&title=fall-2019-election#51273 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 7:35am

So
We have no police chief or city manager—a new mayor with no local city experience who has lived here for 2 years—a very young emotional council.

Didn’t see this coming
Should be interesting!]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 07:35:25 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51273&title=fall-2019-election#51273 Fall 2019 Election : Moon and Nenni huh. Moon is a... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51272&title=fall-2019-election#51272 Author: VietVet
Subject: 6965
Posted: Nov 06 2019 at 4:32am

Moon and Nenni huh. Moon is a non factor just like Joe Mulligan is on new idea contributions IMO. Both seem to just occupy a council chair. Glad to finally see Mulligan voted out. Waited a long time for that. I see Nenni as a downtown business owner ally joining Amy Vitori. Right or wrong, I see them tunnel focused on the downtown area to foster their businesses while disregarding the other parts of town as to development. Could them being on council, and making decisions concerning downtown, while owning businesses there, be a conflict of interest? Dunno. Voted for Condrey, Cramer and Wittman. Would like to have seen the beginning of incumbent removal and housecleaning on council. Got it with the Mulligan removal but would have liked to have seen Moon gone too. JMO ]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2019 04:32:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6965&PID=51272&title=fall-2019-election#51272