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   <title>How to &quot;Keep Middletown Beautiful&quot; : Well now Mikeyou are getting to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 3:40pm<br /><br />Well now Mike&nbsp;you are getting to heart of the this matter...<DIV>I went before City Council and requested that the Middletown Cemetery be declared historic so I could apply for grant money to restore the cemetery and the vault. The application was approved. I then worked for three years clearing the grounds. After that I requested <strong>matching</strong> funds from the City to save the historic vault at the Middletown Cemetery and was refused by Mr. Kohler and the City.&nbsp;The Middletown Cemetery was established in 1828 and is the most historic place in Middletown. Needless to say I&nbsp;couldn't believe that they refused my request.&nbsp;I guess the cemetery isn't historic enough. So unless I can move the cemetery to Main Street I guess I need not apply&nbsp;for CDBG money again. I was told that I needed to go out and get private funds to restore the vault that is sitting on City property. <BR>Hmmmm..Wonder who lives on Main Street that are getting these low interest loans to repair historic properties?&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" style="CURSOR:%20pointer" /><BR><BR><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV></DIV>]]>
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   <title>How to &quot;Keep Middletown Beautiful&quot; :   Pacman wrote:Seems that Kohler&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 12:16pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Pacman" alt="Originally posted by Pacman" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Pacman wrote:</strong><br /><br />Seems that Kohler's name is sure attached to a lot of the Money flowing in Middletown.&nbsp; Does one person have to much control and say over these matters?&nbsp; Who is getting this money in Middletown?&nbsp; Is the money going for the benefit of Middletown as a whole?&nbsp; Does anyone know or care?</td></tr></table> <DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Vivian Moon" alt="Originally posted by Vivian Moon" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Vivian Moon wrote:</strong><br /><br /><strong>Bingo Mike! You have hit the Jackpot!</strong> <DIV>You are correct. The CDBG money can be used for many different types of projects.<BR>As the City cries that they have&nbsp;no funds for City improvements the checks from the state and federal grant&nbsp;programs keep rolling in and land on the desk of Mr. Kohler. <BR>He&nbsp;decides what&nbsp;projects go before the committee to be funded.<BR>&nbsp;<img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0" alt="Ermm" /> Hmmm....wonder where Mr. Kohler spent all this&nbsp;money last year?&nbsp;</DIV></td></tr></table> <img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Shocked" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>What do you think I've been trying to say all of these years???&nbsp; But it's been more than just one person.&nbsp; Still, If you truly and thoroughly read all of the zoning regulations and the building reulations and the planning regulations, you will see why "business<FONT color=#ff0000> <strong>UN</strong>freindly</FONT>" Middletown is so unattractive to new businesses.&nbsp; In fact, it is pretty darn UNfriendly to residents as well.&nbsp; Just wait until you have to do some major remodeling.&nbsp; If you try to play by the rules (unlike Honest Dave), You'll find out just how much more&nbsp;it costs to build in Middletown to do things Marty's way.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>PS:&nbsp; Don't forget that SOMEHOW the Historic and Landmark Society somehow was granted the right of FIRST refusal&nbsp;for ANY project in Middletown!!&nbsp; This would force a business (or a resident wanting to remodel) to file a lengthy and expensive appeal if the good people of the Historical Society don't like what you want.&nbsp; This, likewise, is a lot of power for one person.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 11:58am<br /><br /><A name=24:3.1.1.3.4.3.1.3><FONT face=Arial>&nbsp;I've always heard rumers &nbsp;that the bulk of the CDBG funds used, have been used under those parts of the law highlighted in <FONT color=#ff0000>red</FONT> below.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also, a goodly portion of the funds go unused every year.&nbsp; These funds CAN be "rolled over", but there is a limit.&nbsp; After a certain number of years, the unused funds are reclaimed by the Federal government.</DIV><DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><DIV><H5>§&nbsp;570.202&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Eligible rehabilitation and preservation activities.</H5></DIV></A>(a) <I><FONT color=#ff0000><strong>Types of buildings and improvements eligible for rehabilitation assistance</strong></FONT>. </I>CDBG funds may be used to finance the rehabilitation of:<P>(1) <FONT color=#ff0000>Privately owned buildings and improvements for residential purposes; improvements to a single-family residential property</FONT> ...</P><DIV>(d) <I><FONT color=#ff0000>Historic preservation.</FONT> </I>CDBG funds may be used for the rehabilitation, preservation or restoration of historic properties, whether publicly or privately owned. Historic properties are those sites or structures that are either listed in or eligible to be listed in the National Register of Historic Places, <FONT color=#ff0000>listed in a </FONT>State or <FONT color=#ff0000>local inventory of historic places,</FONT> or designated as a State or <FONT color=#ff0000>local landmark or historic district</FONT>.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><FONT size=1>Now, the city makes it sound like all of this money goes to the poorest folks in town.&nbsp; While the "neighborhoods" towards which these CBDG grants are targeted in Middletown are in the 2nd Ward, the high dollar and supposed "historic" homes on S. Main Street are included within the boundaries targeted by Middletown's City Hall.</FONT></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 9:02am<br /><br />Seems that Kohler's name is sure attached to a lot of the Money flowing in Middletown.&nbsp; Does one person have to much control and say over these matters?&nbsp; Who is getting this money in Middletown?&nbsp; Is the money going for the benefit of Middletown as a whole?&nbsp; Does anyone know or care? ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 8:59am<br /><br />Page 5 of this report:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/communitydevelopment/library/homebrochure.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/communitydevelopment/library/homebrochure.pdf</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If you are really feeling ambitious:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr;sid=db47c1705adebf08eaa2a8345e03f627;rgn=div5;view=text;node=24%3A3.1.1.3.4;idno=24;cc=ecfr#24:3.1.1.3.4.3.1.2" target="_blank">http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr;sid=db47c1705adebf08eaa2a8345e03f627;rgn=div5;view=text;node=24%3A3.1.1.3.4;idno=24;cc=ecfr#24:3.1.1.3.4.3.1.2</A></DIV>]]>
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   <title>How to &quot;Keep Middletown Beautiful&quot; : Bingo Mike! You have hit the Jackpot! You...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 7:14am<br /><br /><strong>Bingo Mike! You have hit the Jackpot!</strong><DIV>You are correct. The CDBG money can be used for many different types of projects.<BR>As the City cries that they have&nbsp;no funds for City improvements the checks from the state and federal grant&nbsp;programs keep rolling in and land on the desk of Mr. Kohler. <BR>He&nbsp;decides what&nbsp;projects go before the committee to be funded.<BR>&nbsp;<img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0" alt="Ermm" /> Hmmm....wonder where Mr. Kohler spent all this&nbsp;money last year?<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>How to &quot;Keep Middletown Beautiful&quot; : I am interested in seeing who...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;10&nbsp;2009 at 10:05am<br /><br />I am interested in seeing who this committee they came up with is.&nbsp; I would think it would have been more logical to hold your meeting and then have a committee comprised of those people that are there and involved, rather than we secretly picked them ahead of time.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am&nbsp;not&nbsp; big fan of the lets do things behind closed doors then spring it on everyone later.&nbsp; I was comtemplating going to the meeting, but it appears that they have already set the agenda and who is going to run the show.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>This is all fine and good but it is just a distraction as to what the real problems addressed in the Forbes Story are:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><strong><FONT size=4>"income growth, the rate of domestic in-migration, the change in poverty and the percentage of the population with a bachelor's degree or higher."</FONT> </strong></FONT></DIV><DIV><strong><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT color=#000000>City leaders and others continue to live in denial about these issues.&nbsp; </FONT></FONT></strong></DIV>]]>
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   <title>How to &quot;Keep Middletown Beautiful&quot; : Pacman: I think that this is...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;10&nbsp;2009 at 9:51am<br /><br />Pacman:<DIV>I think that this is the correct (perma)link:</DIV><DIV><a href="http://blip.tv/file/1648291" target="_blank">http://blip.tv/file/1648291</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Regardless, I see!&nbsp; Sam and Ann want everyone to send the projects that THEIR groups already plan to do, so that they (Sam and Ann) can put them all on THEIR (Sam's and Ann's) list!!!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;10&nbsp;2009 at 9:11am<br /><br />Hmmmmmmmmmm it should have taken you to Ann Mort&nbsp; 8 minutes in Middletown lets try again. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://tvmiddletown.blip.tv/#1656817" target="_blank">http://tvmiddletown.blip.tv/#1656817</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Hmmm like&nbsp;somethings&nbsp;in Middletown it ain't working right.&nbsp; On the righthand side click on the second show which should be 8 Minutes in Middletown with Ann Mort.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>How to &quot;Keep Middletown Beautiful&quot; :   Pacman wrote:Middletown Pride...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;10&nbsp;2009 at 9:02am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Pacman" alt="Originally posted by Pacman" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Pacman wrote:</strong><br /><br />Middletown Pride in Action: <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://tvmiddletown.blip.tv/#1656817" target="_blank">http://tvmiddletown.blip.tv/#1656817</A></DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Pacman:</DIV><DIV>Your linnk took me to:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><DIV>"Eight Modifiable Risk Factors of Healthy Aging, Part One </DIV><DIV =Clear></DIV><DIV><SPAN id=EpisodeDei&#111;n><FONT face="Lucida Sans">January 10, 2009. Dr. Rick Hasemeier shows how seniors can reduce the risk of illness." </FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV dir=ltr><SPAN><FONT face="Lucida Sans">Is that what you intended???</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr><SPAN><FONT face="Lucida Sans"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV dir=ltr><SPAN><FONT face="Lucida Sans">(This is NOT to imply that it is not what I NEED!!! <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /><img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>]]>
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