Middletown Forum : About Middletown http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : About Middletown : Last 10 Posts Mon, 05 Oct 2026 12:00:59 +0000 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:32:36 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 30 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_topic_feed.asp?FID=18 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ About Middletown : The Canal Museum http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6791&PID=50241&title=the-canal-museum#50241 Author: da120757
Subject: The Canal Museum
Posted: Jun 18 2018 at 9:32pm

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience at the Canal Museum.  Volunteers have been working to get the Museum back in Shape.  Repainting, Reorganizing, and making new displays.  There is only so much two or three volunteers can get done.  Would love to have more volunteers to help out if you are interested.  As for the trees those belong to the City and we will be working on getting the fencing replaced or at least repaired soon. 

Stop back down one Sunday.  Let me know when you do I will be there to talk to you.
]]> Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:32:36 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6791&PID=50241&title=the-canal-museum#50241 About Middletown : The Canal Museum http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6791&PID=50203&title=the-canal-museum#50203 Author: VietVet
Subject: The Canal Museum
Posted: Jun 11 2018 at 4:21pm

Son and I went to the Canal Museum last Sunday. It was open from 2-4PM. Son had last visited more than 15 years ago. I had never been there.

Observations:

Nice building structure.

The grounds around the museum are in dire need of some landscaping care, tree trimming and fence mending.

The hydraulic canal is an overgrown path of weeds, grasses, wood boards, glass and plastic bottles, concrete blocks, and other debris that makes the entryway across the bridge a little less attractive.

There are some interesting items in the museum on the history of Middletown but, for the most part, one can go through the museum in less than an hour including reviewing the items located upstairs.

Unfortunately, there just isn't enough there to warrant a return trip after seeing it one time.

We talked to the museum folks who had it open that day and they told us they just can't generate much interest in luring people to attend. We mentioned putting together a program including presentations and movies on Middletown's history, announcing it in the paper and other media outlets and having a community affair at the Seniors Center or, perhaps, outdoors at Governors Square downtown or at the Sorg Opera House. Refreshments could be served. Perhaps a number of pizza shops (the Slice or Blast Furnace Pizza downtown???)could be motivated to provide food and beverage for advertisement purposes. How about all the downtown restaurants chip in to promote their downtown area?

Sadly, they both said that they thought there just flat out wouldn't be that much interest from the community to learn about the city they were living in.

Hmmm.....does that sound familiar? Apathy......how many times have we talked about that on this forum......Sad that there is no hometown feel anymore. Sad that the old guard has either left us or has moved on. Sad that the people who were not from here have chosen to live here but are not interested in the city's history, even on a night of free treats and entertainment. ]]> Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:21:43 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6791&PID=50203&title=the-canal-museum#50203 About Middletown : MUSA Mainstays 2007 - 2018: What Lies Ahead?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6786&PID=50192&title=musa-mainstays-2007-2018-what-lies-ahead#50192 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: MUSA Mainstays 2007 - 2018: What Lies Ahead??
Posted: Jun 09 2018 at 12:23am

Most of the long-time regular posters have periodically thanked John, and his team, for providing this last bastion of free speech in Middletown.]]> Sat, 09 Jun 2018 00:23:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6786&PID=50192&title=musa-mainstays-2007-2018-what-lies-ahead#50192 About Middletown : MUSA Mainstays 2007 - 2018: What Lies Ahead?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6786&PID=50191&title=musa-mainstays-2007-2018-what-lies-ahead#50191 Author: Analytical
Subject: MUSA Mainstays 2007 - 2018: What Lies Ahead??
Posted: Jun 08 2018 at 6:28pm

Wondering Out Loud...............

Over the past 11 years since John Beagle, etc. founded the MUSA Blog, hundreds of archived posts note a core group of roughly 25 past/present residents who were/are most active in identifying/discussing/critiquing matters of greatest importance pertaining to Middletown city government.

Several of these mainstays like Pacman and ImpalaSS have passed away.  Others like Acclaro simply moved away in frustration. There's Vivian Moon and Whistlersmom who've grown weary of the inability/unwillingness of city council to provide reasonable oversight of senior staff"s questionable projects, dubious donations of city-owned real estate, sizable direct cash grants, a multitude of tax breaks, multi-millions seemingly wasted, plus the dismantling of portions of the former second ward residential areas.

In some unfortunate respects, the future of Middletown remains uncertain.  However, there's still opportunities to kindle private-sector reinvestment.  That task is much more difficult now as previously available public-sector housing and community development resources are now gone.

Everyone past/present needs to thank John Beagle, etc. for providing a local sounding board unlike that of the sanitized Middletown Journal-News and City of Middletown slanted news releases.  Thank you John.
]]> Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:28:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6786&PID=50191&title=musa-mainstays-2007-2018-what-lies-ahead#50191 About Middletown : Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=50048&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#50048 Author: VietVet
Subject: Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding??
Posted: May 02 2018 at 4:13pm

Ok, an article in the Journal today about the bike path building they are now constructing by Bicentennial Commons and the AK Pavilion.

Seems the lady in the article seems to think this is going to be a major draw for the river front with 80 miles of continuous bike path usage in the Middletown/Franklin area.

Yep, according to Adkins and this spokesperson for the Metro parks, this will be the real deal as to making the riverfront a major attraction for the downtown area. (This is riverfront development effort number two. Number one was the Bicentennial Commons, the AK Pavilion and the failed Lake Middletown, all of which have been used sparingly to say the least the last decade or two)

Wish them luck on that. Still wondering just how many will benefit who will be the potential users of this facility. (How many bike riders and path walkers are there when compared to the overall population of the area? If a small number, is all of this really worth the effort?)

OR.....will it eventually become an eyesore where no one goes because the prostitutes and drug users will use it as their haven, negating the positive vibe for which is was intended.....

Time will tell for all of us whether this will be a success or just another white elephant for the city. We will be watching Mr. Adkins and company.]]> Wed, 02 May 2018 16:13:57 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=50048&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#50048 About Middletown : Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49886&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49886 Author: MattR
Subject: Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding??
Posted: Mar 10 2018 at 3:28pm

See wwwapp.epa.ohio.gov/dsw/maps/cso/index.php  even.]]> Sat, 10 Mar 2018 15:28:55 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49886&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49886 About Middletown : Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49885&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49885 Author: MattR
Subject: Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding??
Posted: Mar 09 2018 at 7:38pm

The canal is one of the combined sewer outfalls in the city.  Sanitary sewage is combined with stormwater at that point.  The paper plant is the primary contributor.  A complicating factor is the damage that was done to the point where the canal flows into the river by the dredging that was done by the city, causing the canal to stagnate at that point.  Your tax dollars at work.]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2018 19:38:47 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49885&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49885 About Middletown : Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49881&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49881 Author: VietVet
Subject: Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding??
Posted: Mar 09 2018 at 2:08pm

itsamee:

"I know that the county is building that new nature center by the Pavilion. I think that will be a great addition as the one thing the path is missing are bathrooms and water fountains. I think that will help the athletes a lot more, along with some of the Butler County programs the parks system often has."


And I can respect your "glass is half full" response here. I hope you are correct. My "glass is half empty" approach tells me that within a short time after the Pavilion is built and operational, we will be reading in the Journal where the police are now stationing an officer at this location to monitor and arrest the prostitutes, drug users and other potential criminals that will eventually migrate to the Pavilion. Historically, we read articles about crime in the downtown area which includes the riverfront. I predict, in time, we will be reading police reports concerning this location. It will present a perfect hunting ground for the criminal elements listed above.


As to the discussion concerning the water basin proposal at Sunset Park, my first thoughts centered around the removal and fill of the swimming pool there. I find it a tad bit humorous that they filled in the pool and now are proposing digging another hole in proximity to where the pool was. So the folks around Sunset lost a swimming pool but are gaining a retention basin for water runoff. Wonder if they think that is a fair trade off. Wonder which properties surrounding the park will have the pleasure of having this basin in their front yard? Wonder if it will be on the Bellemonte end, Milton end or the Kenwood end of the park. (Not sure on Kenwood here) Why not place the basin on the old Roosevelt school land by the old track and tennis courts and leave the park undisturbed? .....or is that land too high in elevation for that? What else would the old school site be used for?]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2018 14:08:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49881&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49881 About Middletown : Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49879&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49879 Author: itsamee
Subject: Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding??
Posted: Mar 09 2018 at 11:49am

Matt,  
What are you even talking about? The smell down there is from the paper plant, first and foremost. I have run the entirety of that path many, many times. The only smell I have ever come across was from the paper plant. 
]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2018 11:49:08 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49879&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49879 About Middletown : Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding?? http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49878&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49878 Author: itsamee
Subject: Great Miami River Bike Path Flooding??
Posted: Mar 09 2018 at 11:48am

Buddah,  

Hamilton and Miamisburg are both hard to get to. Miamisburg is about like Middletown, except you can make a right turn and hit their malls. But if you want the old down town, its 10 minutes to the left. Hamilton is even less accessible. They just got lucky they are the county seat and could get 129 to allow access. 

I think, and I am not trying to defend those in charge now vs. the ones that were before I got here, you will see a lot less of what happened with the outlet malls. I still think that what it is becoming over there is a good thing and it should continue to move that direction. The downtown is what it is. It should continue to move that way. There is no way you are going to attract a large company there who will put their headquarters down there, or a large manufacturing plant. Those ideas are dead. The city needs to focus on economic growth by the highway and keep turing the downtown into the social destination it is.  If we could get some larger events to happen (like the Turkey Trot in Miamisburg) down there, it would be pretty sweet.  
]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2018 11:48:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6708&PID=49878&title=great-miami-river-bike-path-flooding#49878