![]() |
Home | Yearly News Archive | Advertisers | Blog | Contact Us |
|
![]() |
Thursday, October 2, 2025 |
|
Good-bye! |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Author | |
Mike_Presta ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posted: Sep 01 2008 at 5:45am |
Good-bye, Billie, we hardly knew ye!
|
|
![]() |
|
VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I hate to burst the perverbial "feel good" balloon that Becker, Schiavone and the rest of the clueless club members are floating, but Murphy's tenure as Economic Development Director left alot to be desired. There were numerous occasions where we all read about jobs locating to surrounding communities and opportunities lost for Middletown. His claim to fame would be the Quaker Chemical expansion and job number increase. Occasionally, we would read where a company would be "expanding" by adding 10 or 15 jobs at $10/hour during his stint. No major company of any notoriety was considered and jobs that would provide a livable wage were not on his radar.You can't live on $10/hour anymore and have anything decent to show for it. No, sorry Becker and crew, but Murphy lacked the connections, drive and focus to initiate the job growth that Middletown desperately needs.Hopefully, you'll learn from this and hire an economic devel. director that will research the nation for the types of DIVERSIFIED jobs that will offer opportunities for the people of this town , be smart enough to devise an enticement program and have the areas prepared to support the enticement. We need a stronger effort than what we have had since 2005.
|
|
![]() |
|
John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I have to respectfully disagree with VietVet.
Bill Murphy did indeed have connections and did indeed help pave the way for economic progress in Middletown. That is why Cincinnati USA is interested in him. Middletown is in a very difficult position right now. With a loss of manufacturing jobs and competition from West Chester and Monroe is strong. Middletown has a long way to go to create an image that will attract new businesses. Middletown is in the middle of a MSA that ranks 25th in the nation. Even better, the population is growing. Prospects are good for Middletown. But it takes a visionary to make things happen. Bill was our man. Now we need a new man (or woman). Thanks Bill, you did a good job for Middletown. |
|
![]() |
|
Pacman ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
John please elaborate on this and tell us what prospects you think are good in the short term and the long term for Middletown and why.
"Prospects are good for Middletown."
|
|
![]() |
|
VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
John- with all due respect to your views, please list for us, the accomplishments of Bill Murphy. Tell us the companies that have located in Middletown that have offered significant employmentopportunities for the people. What were the jobs, where were they located and what did they pay that made a major impact on this town?Then, we will name the companies that left, the salary range that these jobs paid and the revenue impact on this city that their leaving caused. No, we all know what Murphy hasdone since 2005 and it has NOT been impressive. You contradictyourself in your post. In one paragraph, you state that Murphy "paved the way for economic progress", then, in the very next paragraph, you state "Middletown has a long way to go to create an image that will attract new business". Now, do we have a long way to go or have we had the way paved for us for progress right now? Which way is it? Middletown's population is growing? Really!!??? Prospects are good? Really!!??? In what areas? It takes more than a visionary to make things happen. That "visionary" must actually show action on that vision or it remains just a dream/gameplan. You must execute the gameplan for it to work. Now, let's get someone in here that will do a little less "visioning" and a little more "doing".
|
|
![]() |
|
Marianne ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 13 2008 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 165 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Vet, I'm curious to know what sort of progress will satisfy you. In other words, what have you expected to see in the past few years that you haven't seen? Middletown's rise to the "glory days" you've posted about - ie, when you write about how you remember how Middletown once was - didn't happen overnight.
In fact, it didn't happen in a few years. It was the result of decades of effort by people whose stories I trust you know better than I do. That said, the economic changes that have affected Middletown did not occur overnight either. They are also not unique to Middletown but have negatively affected many cities of our size with our economic structure (ie based on manufacturing). This is not meant as an attack on you, but sometimes I'm perplexed by people's response to this town. I don't know what will make people satisfied that progress is occurring. Oftentimes, I think that nothing will. What does Middletown have that other cities of our type do not? Call me biased, but we have one of the best darn universities in the country...right here! This just came out The 2009 U.S.News & World Report college rankings lists Miami University 26th among the top public universities in the nation. That's amazing! And before you or someone else writes, "Well, that's Oxford, not MUM," I respectfully disagree that the ranking does not apply. I'm a faculty member whose department is in Oxford; my tenure is decided by Oxford. I teach primarily in Middletown. Most faculty who teach in Middletown are tied to Oxford departments. Sometimes people get the impression that the schools are distinct; it's the same university, but two locations (add Hamilton and VOA into the mix and there's 4). I love teaching in Middletown; I'm proud of MUM and what we accomplish here. But I also recognize my connection to Oxford. The point is that MUM is a resource for change in this community. I think a key to this city's future is what happens with MUM. This fall MUM has announced a four year degree program that I think can serve to strengthen the educational base of this area. If you don't know about it, I suggest you read about it. There are many other things that MUM has done and is doing that I think will improve this town and the surrounding areas. I can tell you that the staff and faculty really work hard often underappreciated. The Dean of MUM, Dr. Cowan, has a great deal of energy, drive, and enthusiasm for the university and its role in this community. She's also brilliant. An accomplished researcher, she was also regarded as one of MUM's best teachers; the textbook on microbiology she wrote is considered the definitive textbook in the field. So, one of my "solutions" to the problems of Middletown is very simple: get an education. You talk about wanting to attract high-paying jobs to this area? Well, employers need employees. The reason why a company like Amylin puts a $400 million dollar facility in West Chester and not in Middletown may have something to do with West Chester's access to multiple universities and a well-trained employee base. We can attract those companies with a better infrastructure but also with a better educated workforce. MUM can and is trying to do something about that. It needs to be supported. Look at the statistics for the number of Middletown residents without a high school diploma or a GED. Even more discouraging for attracting those high paying jobs you mention, look at the percentage of residents with college degrees. Those are statistics that major companies look at when they look to locate in a community. Before I ramble any more here, I just want to reiterate my first question: what change have you expected to see that you haven't seen? And perhaps more importantly, how would you have brought this change to pass in this community? I respect your concerns and your views, but I do think many people in this community are making a difference - however slight and unsatisfying to others - and those are things we should build on. |
|
![]() |
|
.308 ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Aug 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 192 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Great points Marianne. However I would say our biggest problem is we simply fail to see the larger picture. We as nation need to address a lot of issues before we can hope for the return of our past economic prosperity. |
|
![]() |
|
VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Marianne- good points- here is my response- You are connected with MUM- I, too, went to MUM when it first opened in 1966/67. Left to go into the Air Force at the time. I always thought it was a first rate facility and that it enhanced the town in many ways. It still is a class act for the community. You asked "what about progress to satisfy me"- this all started back in the 80's when Armco started their dive into the abyss. When the city leaders saw the gradual decrease from 9000 employees in the 60's to the 3000 level we have now, why didn't they prepare to respond? Couple that with the absence of paper mill opportunities and you have exhausted the supply of decent paying jobs in town. I would have expected the city officials to see the obvious and to have started preparing to diversify the job selections similar to what one would do with their stock portfolios to protect against downturns in one area.Automotive parts plants, research facilities, communication companies, fiber optics companies, defense supply contractors, corporate warehousing operations, would all supply Middletown and surrounding areas with decent employment opportunities for those that choose to live in Middletown and for those that choose to commute. Ideally, all jobs would be held by Middletonians but realistically, there would be out-of-towners working here too. Bottom line, it would generate revenue, get money flowing and move a stagnated housing market here in town as people would obtain jobs, buy houses and cars, groceries, and spend money in the community. My frustration and my "perplexing response" is a reaction to the inablility of the past/present people in charge, to see and act on fixing what is wrong with this town. It is so obvious that it is almost inconceivable for me to imagine that they can't figure this out! I think they know, they just don't want to make the effort. Too much trouble, don't 'ya know!This lack of progress has been going on for the last 28 years. There has not been any significant growth in the jobs category in that time frame- rather, significant job losses in key higher paying positions. How did the "cow pasture" towns of Mason and Springboro vault to the top, and why did they have their town growth course charted for them and why was Middletown left in the dust, when we were the progressive community at one time? Could it have been that the leaders over the years weren't smart enough to keep up/change with the times? Could it be that they didn't care? Why is emmulating a successful town so taboo to our leaders? Why not identify and copy the successful towns around here? We sure have enough examples of success to follow, don't we? You mention that a key to success is MUM and educating the people of Middletown. That's part of it, but if Middletown doesn't offer decent employment after graduation,thus retaining those college educated people, they will leave town and we will be back to square one again.It must happen simultaneously.Bottom line- we need to raise the bar for expectations in this town. Right now, this town is a "Family Dollar- Odd Lots-Wal-Mart-pizza shop kind of town in thinking and job selection.We need to offer and motivate the citizens to upgrade their thinking, their goals, and their lifestyle to expect and pursue the corporate level, technical level, professional level jobs and stop thinking small time thoughts like lousy pizza jobs.At the same time, city leaders need to get with it in providing jobs for the college graduates to occupy.Perhaps MUM can design and advertise an " are you tired of thinking small" program to place in the paper, on the web, in the classroom and at various locations in town to alert/motivate people to get off their duff and strive for something better than flipping burgers the rest of their lives.I noticed that the theme of your post is concentrated on the academic side of life, which makes sense due to your vocation. My comments concentrate on the industry, research side and I am in the world that is the recipient of the students that are transitioning to the working world on their first job. Perhaps, these two worlds, coupled with the city leaders could make a difference, if only they could get together and talk openly to remedy some of these issues.
|
|
![]() |
|
Marianne ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 13 2008 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 165 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hey Vet, just wanted to say thanks for your post; I'll reread it later, but I'm about to go teach. :)
|
|
![]() |
|
.308 ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Aug 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 192 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sorry to interrupt.
But I just don't see the comparison between a town of 50,000 (Middletown) that has been incorporated for close to 100 years and two towns (Mason and Springboro) with populations 1/2 to 1/3 of ours that as you say were just cornfields 40 years ago. To me making that comparison is like blaming one mechanic for all the trouble you have with your 1985 Chrysler Reliant K while praising another mechanic because he keeps you 2005 Chrysler 300 running like a champ.
|
|
![]() |
|
John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Marianne said, "So, one of my "solutions" to the problems of Middletown is very
simple: get an education. You talk about wanting to attract
high-paying jobs to this area? Well, employers need employees."
You hit the nail on the head. But sometime I don't think the schools even consider the business community. Basic computer skills are lacking like spreadsheets and document storage/retrieval. Many students don't even know how to show up for an interview. Love to see more business oriented education. After all, manufacturing jobs are not the future. Office environments are. |
|
![]() |
|
John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
VietVet:
Being in the center of a growing Metropolitan area of 25 million people is one reason why Middletown's future looks bright. Dayton and Cincinnati are growing together and we are right in the middle. Also, the hospital will be a draw for medical oriented businesses. Already businesses are seeing opportunities with a centeral location. Did you forget PAC Worldwide and PayChex? PAC Worldwide used to be called PAC National until they relocated here. Paychex Consolidating in Middletown - MiddletownUSA.comPac National, Inc. bringing 155 jobs to Middletown - MiddletownUSA.com I think there is a world of opportunity out there for Middletown. And we have a city manager who is pro-Business! Open your eyes next time you drive down Central. I have had my Middletown business since 1987. We started at 800 1st Ave. I have never seen the downtown look better. Quit bitchen that the boat is sinking, either start bailing or get on the repair team. Otherwise your just dead weight. |
|
![]() |
|
spiderjohn ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
lol
finally buttons have been pushed leading to real discussion
Marianne and .308 hit the nail squarely on the head.
Education is the key, while never emphasized in this community.
Most middle/lower income families lived off of the now gone manufacturing entities, and have not adjustined their thinking, still waiting for over-compensation to unskilled workers.
If you believe this new coke plant to be our salvation, then you are thinking very small.
Our schools have failed to adjust also, verified by consistently below standard test scoring(and trending lower!), while the MSD admin remains steadfast in denial. Our new school board members have been incredibly silent. Have they bought in to the "progress"?
Vet may whine a lot for the "good ole days", still he is no more dead weight than the shameless cheerleaders exagerrating our positives and "going through the motions" efforts. Besides, someone needs to balance the local propaganda machine(which is incredibly well-funded).
There is absolutely a world of opportunity out there for Middletown, however we are slow to move forward while meaningful new age businesses are landing everywhere around us.
We can't expect much co-operation from Franklin or Monroe, since we have shamelessly treated them with disrespect. We all know there will be nothing coming forward from the county commission, despite our strong Republican support base. Time to show your displeasure this November by voting out ALL incumbents for a bi-partisan swing to office-holders. Face it--the all Republican control has failed miserably and is only about self-preservation and self-reward at the citizens' expense.
Bill Murphy is now dead wieght.
He should have been let go immediately after submitting his resignation.
Obviously he has been concerned with his own interests and has worked for this other outfit for some time, since they "sponsored" his European junket on our time.
What ever developed from that trip, btw?
Mr.Murphy is a nice guy who had a very difficult position. He is hardly the core problem, and has some accomplishments. He probably won't be as pressured to produce concrete results in his new position. Credit for his efforts though he has milked the system to his benefit entirely.
My business started in 1924, and has operated in every part of the community, including a very successful run downtown. I have seen our downtown look considerably better. I was forced to leave downtown for the mall development. Why did you leave, Mr.B?
|
|
![]() |
|
arwendt ![]() MUSA Official ![]() Joined: May 17 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 588 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I thought we left because we got tired of eating lunch at the Parrot.
But most likely the real answer involves I75.
|
|
![]() |
|
John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
spiderjohn
I left the downtown to be out by the interstate. But we are still in Middletown. I think you are being too hard on Bill. He still lives in Middletown and his new job includes economic development for the Cincinnati MSA, which includes Middletown. By the way, Bill paid for his 'european junket' out of his pocket. Not CincinnatiUSA. Here is info from his trip abroad: Netherlands Economic Diversification an Example for Middletown |
|
![]() |
|
VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
.308- "comparison of Middletown and 50,000 people and Mason and Springboro"- I was using the comparison to emphasize that Middletown was a fulfledged city when Mason and Springboro were just cow pastures and rural one traffic light burgs 40-50 years ago. Now, when comparing the same time frame, proportionately, Middletown has made little change while Mason and Springboro have grow at a much greater rate and have become very prosperous and upscale. I am NOT making the comparison that Mason/Springboro and Middletown have anything in common as to town makeup.Obviously, Middletown is blue collar and Mason/Springboro are white collar towns and have very stark differences as to income, business climate, education level of the citizens, development success and other areas.
|
|
![]() |
|
VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mr. Beagle- I've been hearing the old" Dayton will be growing south and Cincinnati is coming north" routine since I-75 was built in 1958. It is now 2008 and I am still waiting for the day when we will be the "center of it all" and waiting for the benefits of being at the "epicenter" of this giant metropolis. Yes, it will happen some day. No doubt after I'm gone. Perhaps, after you're gone. There are still many miles to fill before they start knocking on Middletown's door. PAC National bringing 155 jobs to Middletown- These are not newly created jobs, just job transfers. While some of these 155 paychecks may be spent in Middletown and are certainly welcomed, to date, it does not offer any future employment opportunities for the people of Middletown. Perhaps in the future, assuming they stay long enough, that will change.Wonder how many of these 155 employees will locate to Middletown to buy homes- or will they commute?As to the downtown- yes, parts of it look better. Will look even better once the 70% vacanies are filled. As for the bitchen comment- I don't know who crapped in your Wheaties with that comment, but be advised that I have tried to talk to council/school board and have participated on committees in the past and have tried to be a part of the solution to no avail. ( the repair team and the bailing team as you put it)and your comment about being dead weight because I don't buy the crap they're shoveling is, with all due respect, assinine.In my opinion, you are very gullible if you buy their failed gameplan concerning this city. Good day to you sir.Remember, you started this little conflict with your "bitchen" comment.
|
|
![]() |
|
spiderjohn ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mr.B--I respect your decision to be in your current location. I believe that your outfit has helped me with puter situations in the past, and I am very appreciative. Still the CBL mess and your burned out neighbor are now embarrassing eyesores with no improvement plan on the horizon. I doubt the old Loft(rip) will be re-built. Besides I dined at the Parrot once in my life, though I really liked Mr.Rigas and Gary/Freda Bush. Vet makes a good point the Cincy/Dayton middling. Been the talk for decades, while everything surrounding has landed the prize businesses. It should get better somehow sometime. Vet ain't the problem, even though he can beat the same drum incessantly. I like Bill Murphy. He has worked for us(well--some of us). Still he is just riding his time now. He should benefit the city in this new position(especially since we won't be paying him!), though I never trusted this relationship when comments were amended stating that the Cincy group was paying his way on his globetrotting exciursions(Vegas/Europe). When city employees announce that they are personally paying their expenses on trips for city biz, that red flags me big time that something is fishy. I hope he isn't eligible for any severance package or perks. Anyone up on that one?
come on people--just spirited discussion!
|
|
![]() |
|
John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I have to say VV and SJ both have good points. Growth has not reached Middletown yet. But it is getting there. After all what was West Chester a few years ago? Nothing. Watch Monroe next. Its coming.
The mall is a major disappointment and a cause of constant frustration. We have office space here we would like to rent. But the mall attracts zero new traffic. This area is too valuable to let it go to waste. With thousands of visitors to the hospital and hotels in the area, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a few well placed retail and restaurant establishments would do just fine. Where are our visionaries? Who will actually do the leg work of calling, meeting and selling our city to businesses? Marketing, its everything you do. Always to more. Until we have some doers, we will be stuck in this quagmire. |
|
![]() |
|
Pacman ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
John the Mall is not the only frustration. If Middletown does not get its School System out of the bottom ranking where it is currently entrenched Middletown will not enjoy even 1/2 of the success that Mason, West Chester etc. have had.
Middletown has Image problems, infrastructure problems, amenities problems, leadership problems and so on. If Middletown has not made great strides in correcting or at least improving in these areas they will not be a part of the growth that is coming.
Yes a section of Middletown will grow, that being probably from Dixie Hwy or maybe as far west are Breiel east to the Hospital, the rest of the city will remain in its present state and disrepair. Middletown does not have raw land that developers can mold into another West Chester. Middletown has broken streets, broken buildings, old steel mill housing, etc. None of this is attractive to the current income group that needs to be drawn to Middletown to make it grow.
Middletown needs to work on shedding its current poor image in the area. It needs to stop spending so much of the Cities time dealing with issues that affect so few people. An example is section 8. There is no reason for council to spend almost a year and hire consultants to tell them what to do with OUR Section 8 problem. Butler county wants it give it to them and get rid of the moniker Section 8 Capital of Butler County. This is not a quick fix but a start in the right direction. Section 8 affects 1663 people or families in Middletown probably less than 10% of the population.
Another example is the constant talk and time spent on Pools. 1/4 of 1% of the population uses Sunset Pool each day when it is open. It is ludicrous to spend the amount of money and time that the City does on this issue and then to call it a Quality of Life issue for Middletown, evidently 99.75% don't feel it is such as big a quality of life issue as the Council does ....please this is ridicules. Just the amount of time and money spent on this issue alone over the last 4 years is astounding for the use the pool gets.
Then we have the constant banter and time spent by council on Parks, parks and more parks. Last meeting 10-20 minutes was spent on whether to turn the lights on at 2 parks. The City is falling apart and we don't have City Staff that can handle these types of issues.
If the City does not start to move forward immediately they will be left behind when the growth eventually reaches Middletown. The City needs to make more of an effort to work with all of businesses of Middletown Big and small, because when it comes right down to it it is the businesses that are going to save and keep Middletown going.
One part of the equation Middletown can start to work on immediately is its IMAGE. Its IMAGE with the Citizens, with the surrounding communities and the County.
Middletown lets move forward asap before we get left behind, which we surly will if we continue on our current path.
|
|
![]() |
|
John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From City Manager report:
Interim ED Director Bill Murphy and I have made several contacts and will have a plan for an interim ED Director in the next couple of weeks. |
|
![]() |
|
VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
When the city reaches a point where they are ready to entertain candidates for the Econ. Dev. Director, it would be nice to see the profiles on each candidate published so that we all can see the quality of individuals available to select from. We will also be able to better understand the logic used to choose the final contestant. Would be nice to see for a change, the internal workings of the selection process as city hall sees it, and to have open dialog between the city and the citizens for a change. It will be our tax money that will be paying for this person's salary. I believe that gives us a right to know who will be manning this position. The city may use the old "internal personel priviledge" routine on us, but, just once, I would like to see them share some information with the people as a "good will gesture" Probably wishful thinking on my part.
|
|
![]() |
|
John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes, it would help us all understand the workings of Middletown Economic Development.
|
|
![]() |
|
Pacman ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The problem is no matter who they hire, that person will have an uphill battle just as Mr. Murphy did. I don't see any huge strides being made in the area of economic development until such time as the City of Middletown and the Middletown City Schools tackles some of the other issues in the City.
|
|
![]() |
|
VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Agree or disagree, I'll say it anyway-Huge strides will not occur until the removal of current unworkable thinking is purged. To purge the thinking, we need to purge the source of the thinking. The source of the thinking is the current council, current superintendent, current school board, current economic devel. director and current city department heads. The cancer of incompetence must be removed to create the huge strides. Recalls of current positions on school board and city council must take place, and ,after recall,replacement with competent people must take place. Then, the competent people must remove incompetent dept. heads to rid the city government of the internal cancer. But, of course, this would take an effort and alot of cooperation among the people to rid themselves of this city administered ineptitude and we all know that apathy gets in the way every time.
|
|
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
This page was generated in 0.117 seconds.
Copyright ©2025 MiddletownUSA.com | Privacy Statement | Terms of Use | Site by Xponex Media | Advertising Information |