ISSUE 2--VOTE YES

You have discussed the credibility of some police officers here. I will vote yes on this because the union folks need to start being evaluated on the merit-what have you done for the city this year- system rather than being given raises 2-3 years in advance. Also need the union folks to start paying their fair share of their benefits premiums like we have been doing for years. Need to have them contribute more, and the rest of us less, to their retirement also. Not enough of a financial effort made by them toward their bennies and too much effort made by us non-union workers toward their upkeep. Needs to stop. Been going on for decades. Can't strike with this bill, but then we non-union folks have never had that option. Non-union companies say if you don't like it here, get out. Plain and simple. Still have collective bargaining rights. The ground rules have changed though. The "just vote no" people are union folks and their followers. Just trying to protect their little world and it's perks of protection, less contributions, more pay and tenure. I can see their point but I'm tired of them having it better than most of us non-union working people, especially since we are paying the tab. JMO

You sound like a disgruntled criminal.  Encouraging felons to vote?  Relying on a website that solicits comments from the public, many of whom have been arrested?  While Issue 2 may be valid, your endorsement means nothing.

Bill- you sound like a local cop pissed off about me telling their dirty little secrets

I will be voting yes on issue 2, but not for any of the reasons you claim which have really zero influence on the matter. I believe there are corrupt cops and bad firefighters, but certainly not all of them and certainly not the majority of them. The majority of them are very good civil servants.

Now, do they expect too much in the way of benefits and compensation? Yes, I think so. I think some officers deserve more pay for their excellent service while others probably should never receive a raise above standard cost-of-living increases. But this is the same as with any business industry. People in every industry I know expect things from their employers, the difference is without a union they only get what they earn and deserve and not what they are entitled to.

No one in the country is entitled to anything, in my opinion, except the opportunity to make a good life for themselves. The tax payers have been paying for too much for the benefits received by civil servants. It is time to take that control back and make them pay their fair share. That is why I will be voting yes; not because "cops are bad".

VoteYesIusse2:

First off, you misspelled your own username which makes you look unintelligent. Secondly, if those were quotes "out of the paper" then you should have indicated that and posted links to these quotes. You can't just say they are quote if someone can't find the original. Lastly, I checked out your "RateMyCop.com" website and couldn't find any of the quotes one it. Granted, even if I had that doesn't make them true. People can post whatever they want on the internet without merit.

If I said right now, "VoteYesIusse2 is a homosexual who was arrested last year for having sex with a man in public" then someone quotes it on another website, does that make it true? If so... what the sex worth it?

http://ratemycop.com/index.php?st=OH&dept=6427

Never said all cops were bad. I know of several that are quite good. And I have seen some of them go through a drive thru order food and if it wasn't free, drive off. Walk in to convenient stores grab and 3 or 4 drinks and walk out.
you can say I was busted for gay sex all you want. Why is that crime? I see male and females making out all the time.

It is an editorial from our esteemed Cox News. Maybe I did write it, maybe I didn't.

The union and their co-workers support these "few" officers- why should I/we think they are so innocent? Maybe the others just haven't been caught

justwatching wrote: VoteYesIusse2: First off, you misspelled your own username which makes you look unintelligent. Secondly, if those were quotes "out of the paper" then you should have indicated that and posted links to these quotes. You can't just say they are quote if someone can't find the original. Lastly, I checked out your "RateMyCop.com" website and couldn't find any of the quotes one it. Granted, even if I had that doesn't make them true. People can post whatever they want on the internet without merit. If I said right now, "VoteYesIusse2 is a homosexual who was arrested last year for having sex with a man in public" then someone quotes it on another website, does that make it true? If so... what the sex worth it?

First off you say I look like an idiot for misspelling my name, how do you look for saying "what the sex" instead of "was the"

Looks like west Chester didn't cover this mess up and d the right thing. What's wrong with that?

The former DARE officer is apparently in federal prison and not police officer anywhere. He went to another state and falsified his info. The officer who was hitting on the young girl was convicted or plead to charges. He didn't get off free.

I think the paid admin leave is standard until he's proven guilty. Should a guy here at AK Steel lose his job or be put on unpaid leave if he ot a DUI and was waiting trial? Police officers are employees. They have employee rights also. Why shouldn't they? If he's found guilty then get rid of him.

The officer you are referring to the night the man leaving the bar was struck by police was not talking to underage girls. They were in a bar and were adults.