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    Posted: Mar 20 2012 at 12:05pm
The first failure from the PAC fiasco is going down.
Restaurant/Catering business in PAC is closing
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I've heard of several issues with the caterer. I'm not sure that the closing of the catering side of PAC is a reflection on the art studio side of the business. My guess is there is not a huge connection.
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Restaurant/Catering business can’t survive on one Friday a month.

Time to sign on the dotted lease line for another year at PAC.
I believe others will be leaving also?

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Nice to see you all celebrating.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 20 2012 at 9:32pm
I don't think it means that building or the First Fridays, etc. are failing.  It could just be that the lease is up and parties couldn't work something out, that the caterer thinks the rent is too high and wants to run the business elsewhere, or that the upcoming Red Onion prescence will cut into business. Who knows.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pacman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 20 2012 at 9:33pm
Funny how Council doesn't mention this in their bi-weekly meetings.

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Originally posted by SupportMiddletown SupportMiddletown wrote:

Nice to see you all celebrating.

Did I miss something???  Will you please quote the post wherein anyone was “celebrating” and cite the source???  Confused

“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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What an idiot-I use this business for functions to cater our food needs. Know one wants to see this small business have to fold but the almighty business plan that this Admin. put together isn't working. Can't the great downtown guru we had to hire help?  He's good at getting -hit faced and spouting off at that locals that we know nothing about our own downtown, can't he save the day. What a joke. Celebrating thats all you can come up with?
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Originally posted by ground swat ground swat wrote:

What an idiot-I use this business for functions to cater our food needs. Know one wants to see this small business have to fold but the almighty business plan that this Admin. put together isn't working. Can't the great downtown guru we had to hire help?  He's good at getting -hit faced and spouting off at that locals that we know nothing about our own downtown, can't he save the day. What a joke. Celebrating thats all you can come up with?


Good point ground......and just where is this kid they hired awhile back and what has he done since he has occupied the position? We heard from him when hired....nothing since, right? I don't think this city has had a business plan that has ever worked in the last 4 decades.
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Vet, the newbie hired for downtown is like many "preservationists", "incubators", and "revitalizers" -- in that all they need is some of YOUR tax dollars to spur on development.
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do ya think that maybe Pendleton and the downtowners(they kinda remind me of the depressing Brit tv series)
wanted to replace these locals anyway?
Hard to make it in a desert center where little to nothing is ever open.
I have eaten there  quite a few times
Found the food to be good, and the owners/employees to be very competent/friendly
Their Fri.evening dinners were very good, but a well-kept secret
Why weren't the new downtown guy, Mr.Verdin and the city promoting them more?
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Maybe someone needs to call Mr. Kohlers office and see if she didn’t have a little problem with signage and advertizing of her business.
Ya know we are such a bussiness friendly town.

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Actually there is a NEW cafe opening tonight for FIRST FRIDAY called MOCKINGBIRDS. They will be a coffee shop with the whole set-up as well as have fresh baked goods and a few sandwhich offerings. There is also a fairly solid rumor that a catering firm out of Cincinnati might be taking over the upstairs operation. In addition to these happenings a place called SUGAR HI Cafe will be opening somewhere downtown this fall and a new BISTRO is going in to part of the building owned by Flowers By Roger. Then of course the place in the stained glass building is scheduled to open on October. Word on the street is someone is seriously looking at the LIBERTY again, but that happens often but the others are solid and legit. Bon Apetit!
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Good news if all true.  I thought that building at the corner of Central and Verity was going to involve a seminary school and Boston Stoker's coffee place?  Looks like others are beating them to the punch.
 
A good time to remind everyone to support your local businesses -- from Dillman's, to bakeries, to restaurants.
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Just how many coffee shops can downtown support?
 
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Excellent point pacman, since the community barely supports the excellent coffee/sandwich
Shop that we have now, located in a prime location on Central Ave.
Will that local owner(and major community supporter) be forced to compete against
Newbies in the formerly downtown area dead zone receiving city/govt. subsidies?

Shouldn't a Primary municipal focus be to strengthen existing businesses and existing jobs
throughout the ENTIRE community?
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Interesting conversation with a business owner out on the East end. Same old story, met with Kohler and the so called experts downtown so they had a better understanding of the cities vision. Brought up Robinson's name and he sad you could hear a pin drop. The entire meeting in his words changed and ended rather quickly. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pacman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep 08 2012 at 11:16pm
Spider,

You actually have 2 & 1/2 coffee shops in Middletown that I am aware of...

Kid Koffee
Star Bucks in Kroger
Java Johnny's

When winter hits, if we have any significant snow, I do not see any residents driving downtown to get coffee or for dinner in a fancy restaurant.

It appears the city has forgotten the East End for the time being, but hang on, give it six months. They's swing back around to the East end and forget the Downtown. This has been the typical process for the last 8 yrs that I've been here.

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