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Spider- I mentioned the subdivision of the K-Mart building, placing smaller businesses inside because of the setup my dad has in Indianapolis. He owns a "Tradin' Times" type of newspaper there doing inside sales and marketing. Printing is done through sub contracting. It is located in a large building similar to the K-Mart building. This building has many diverse businesses within- dad's being one of them. It is always full and rent is reasonable. Seems to work for them in Indy.
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But how about this one ?

 
Is this wonderful ?
 
 
 
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Well it would seem that this Kmart has had troubles for some years. Any time I ever went there it always looked closed,hardly any customers in the store. I always thought it was a good location for the store but apperantly not. Maybe John Boehner is building them a new building in West Chester,you know what a fine man he is as he always takes care of everyone.
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Originally posted by here&now here&now wrote:

And how do you suggest we bring businesses to Middletown? We don't have a lot to offer at the moment. High unemployment, crime and drugs.


First step would be to have City government that had the confidence of the People. It would mean taking an "Adult" attitude to City finances. If the city can't afford something without pulling cash from an area such as infrastructure, then we just can't afford it.

I liked what David S. said about the Bond issue for the 122 upgrade. "We can live without this Project" referring to waiting for Bond money to start rather than risk the City being short of cash if it were paid out of the General fund. I agree we could live without the project. I also would have rather spent the 6 mil the Bond generated on City Streets as have the 122 Project.

Cart before the Horse, in my opinion!


Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

 
Ya know--if y'all shopped more locally, we wouldn't be losing so many businesses.
It's not like anyone wants to close a business or leave a location.
 
 



Reasonable comment, but the Business has a responsibility to the Customer too. K-Mart was a Dump. Why should I shop in a Dump if I can go down the road to a place that is not a Dump?

In K-Mart's defense, it is possible that they too (like so many Middletown Citizens) have lost confidence in City Government and there by were unwilling to invest more Capital in  one of their stores located in a dying City.


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We all know that k-mart is leaving. I am not happy about it at all. I shop nowhere other than Middletown. I am born and raised in this town. I would like to know when the closing is taking place and if anyone has shown interest in the building. These are the questions I plan to ask.

As for supporting K-mart I do shop there and live just up the road. Do I shop at Walmart? Some yes. But my money (what little i have) is spent local.
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What more info do ya need, Randy?
K Mart is leaving eventually.
 
Ya know--if y'all shopped more locally, we wouldn't be losing so many businesses.
It's not like anyone wants to close a business or leave a location.
 
K Mart has put this off for a long time, hoping things would improve, but ya really didn't support them.
 
I was in the new Target twice this week to pick up advertised items(not in stock either time), and the only difference I see between K Mart and Target is that Target has a newer building. Target did have approx.5x the # of employees standing around doing nothing other than avoiding customers(few and far between). This Wal Mart blows also.
 
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I am set to talk with a spokesman from Sears Corp. Office tomorrow we should have some more info then.
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There ain't but one building that size in this center they are outt here.
 
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Bobbie they are basically creating a City of Poverty, spending Millions of Federal dollars demolishing homes, trying to refrub homes that are long past there prime.  The city is not doing anything to entice middle income tax payers into this city.  It is simply throwing up more roadblocks by spending the majority of their time dealing with HUD issues, more HUD issues and trying to preserve the employees salaries that they have downtown and nothing else.
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I too called Kamin Realty and they did not confirm or deny that k-mart is leaving. But i also called Sears Corp. office and was told that no date has been set as to when the story will close.
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With all the money that the city has received over the last year - has anyone seen any improvement at all to the city in anyway.  There seems to be a plan of what the city manager and council want this city to be - however they are not doing one thing to fix any issue.  Demolishing homes will not create more business and jobs - which is needed very quickly in this town.  We are becoming a ghost town - I am assuming we will be ranked number one very shortly if it this continues.
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Ahhh.....off the top of my head I would say they are fleeing the sinking ship.
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Originally posted by Paul Nagy Paul Nagy wrote:

I am sorry to report that I called kamin Realty and they verified that K-Mart is indeed leaving.  That's a wonderful location and we should do all we can to bring businesses back to that location.
       Paul nagy
 
 
Does anyone know are they leaving the city or just closing that perticular store ?
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no hear & now--we already tried the booze/sex/drugs/gambling thing with BW3 and Council's/Kohler's beloved Club Roosevelt(emergency legislated through both planning commisssion and Council at Marty's insistence despite neighborhood concerns/resistance), and it didn't fly.
 
Kamin is tough to deal with, and they have quite a few unhappy tenants in that center. Subdivion of the K Mart location would be more headache than opportunity.
 
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K-Mart leaving??? Say it ain't so. Now, I'll have to drive to the Springboro K-Mart for my Martha Stewart designer paints and the prescriptions for the wife. That's an awfully large box store. Probably won't find a business willing to tackle that location. To lure anyone at all, might have to split the sq. footage up into smaller stores and rent to small fledgling businesses like a CPA, an office for a realtor, collection agency, call center, insurance agent, lab testing facility or for a small Tradin' Times type newspaper. Kind of a "many stores within a store" concept. Offer cheap rent to entice perhaps? Don't know. Not a business/marketing person.
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And how do you suggest we bring businesses to Middletown? We don't have a lot to offer at the moment. High unemployment, crime and drugs.
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I am sorry to report that I called kamin Realty and they verified that K-Mart is indeed leaving.  That's a wonderful location and we should do all we can to bring businesses back to that location.
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Arwendt if the City can tell you to Painnt your Gutters and threaten you with some type of legal action, and they are now inspecting businesses, I am sure if they go and look they will find dozens of violations in the front and back and parking lot.  The center needs to be rehabbed.  I just talked to some of the other tenants and they also would like to see it rehabbed.
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I live 5 min away from K-Mart and would rather drive 15 minutes each way than to go to that place. That's not the cities fault.
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I'm surprised Kmart lasted as long as it did after the Walmart was built on Towne Blvd. Even before then you didn't see very many cars there. 
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John call the City and tell them you want to move into downtown and watch how high they jump., anywhere else in the city forget it.
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How many employees do we have in the Economic Development Department?
What are the current salaries of the Economic Development Department?
What are they doing for the City of Middletown to justify these wages?
Did they offer any help to K-Mart to keep them from moving?
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You hit the nail on the head again Pacman!  I appreciate your diligence in pointing out the indifference and fuzzy thinking of the elitist bureaucrats at One Donham Plaza! ClapClapClap
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Pacman said "Middletown seems to be indifferent or powerless to even inquire into why or maintain what they have. "

I think they are powerless. Or idealess. Or both. Haven't heard a peep or seen any effort to market our retail spaces.
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It would appear that Middletown's Business Retention Committee needs to refocus itself onto smaller businesses especially in the retail/service industries for Retention in Middletown, instead of concentrating on the 10 biggest employers who are most likely not leaving anytime soon.  Middletown's Retail/Service industry is being decimated and Middletown seems to be indifferent or powerless to even inquire as to why and can not even maintain what Retail/Service Businesses that they have. 
 
Personally enough of concentrating on the low income issues.  If we improve the city as a whole then everyone will benefit.  Concentrating so much of our time and effort on Section 8 1662 persons/families, demolishing 50 houses, HUD issues, Public Housing, Etc. is not going to ever get us out of the hole that continues to get deeper and deeper with each passing month.
 
Tax Revenues are not increasing and continue to decline.  Concentrating so much energy on issues which produce no new tax revenues is a loosing proposition for everyone in the City.
 
It is time we wake up and realize what is going on.
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