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 Topic: Whose running for Middletown Council this fall?Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 1:11pm |
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Gee Mike- kinda lost your temper there a little- You need to be more like me with the "cool/reserved" demeanor that I have exhibited in this forum.
   Oh crap, I think my nose is growing! Anybody going to take a "controversial subject" laundry list like Pacman made earlier to "discuss" with these people? If this is an "open" forum, think they will have the old three minute light routine like the citizens comments? Think these folks answering some of our questions will sit there with that dumbfounded/"what do we do" look on their face and then claim that "they're just not set up to answer our questions at this time" ala THE HONORABLE MAYOR- Lawrence Mulligan Jr. of the South Main St. Mulligans? Perhaps there will be some protection from civil disobedience in the form of the Middletown Swat Team with their air rifles (no BB"s)- too dangerous- to contain you heathenistic trouble makers????  The atmosphere will be electric as the tension builds between the Royal Family of Council/Royal City Leaders , the swat team of "Nottigham" with their BB guns and the scruffy serfs from the other side of the moat. And the court jesters also known as the Journal reporters telling us all about it based on what they are told to write by the Royalty. A magnificent scene indeed!
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Impala SS
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 12:31pm |
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Smokey >; I have the up most respect for you also , please keep the prayers coming my way I really need them. The Dr told me he gave me 1 year to live. But I will make him eat his words, just watch and see.
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Smokey Burgess
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 12:19pm |
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The same appreciation is extended to you Impala SS for your steadfast support of the return of good government here. God bless you as you continue your treatments. You are in the thoughts and prayers of many Middletonians!
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Impala SS
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 11:43am |
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Mike> You do not have to apologize to me. Hell if more people told it like it is and be honest it would be a better city to live in. keep up the good work Mike I respect you very much.
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Pacman
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 11:41am |
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2000+ our Bark is worst than our Bite
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 11:12am |
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WOW! You guys eat your own around here, don't you?? (uh,oh - I think I just laid myself on the sacrificial altar....)
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MerrellWood
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 11:02am |
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Pacman, Sorry for the offence. I was responding to your question and the group as a whole since this issue has gotten a lot of play recently. I just talked to Valerie at the city managers office and the rsvp was not about anything but .... if a great number of people are coming they would move the event to a larger room. Anyone can ask anything they want and it will be a wide open meeting. Also, in the past Betsy wanted to know approxmately how many will attend for refreshments (water etc.). I suggest those who have interest in the "conversation with council" give Armbruster a call at 424-6368 or the manager's office at 425-7836.
As to the second ribbon cutting, I was as surprised as anyone and did not know about it. Apparently Armbruster found out that some people did not receive timely invitations last year and he is having a second ribbon cutting to create a opportunity to publicly thank those folks.
When I heard about it, I couldn't understand why either and spent an hour trying to find out why it was scheduled again.
Sunset attendence has been most impressive with the hot weather. Splash pad has no way of keeping track.
Best to everyone.
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spiderjohn
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 10:05am |
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Hardly are we "beating anything to death" Mr.Wood.
If the Councilmembers "running" this Conversation with Council" know nothing about the message found on the city website, then who exactly authored this piece?
Who is REALLY behind this meeting, and will it offer an open forum or just the charter review agenda?
Sgt.Schultz is obviously in charge here.
If no one knows anything, then we are in worse shape than imagined, as denial is more than a large river in Africa.
Worry yourself about a SECOND ribbon-cutting for the slighted important dignitaries(who paid for the thing) who were somehow left off of the prior show(how did that happen, Mr.park board head?). Maybe even a few kids will attend and use the facility!
How is attendance/usage running at the splash pads and Sunset?
Due to the hot weather, #s should be huge!
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Pacman
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 10:03am |
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Beating what topic to death? I was simply curious as to your findings as to why the City's announcement said you must RSVP if you are coming to a Public Meeting and now in usual fashion no one knows anything, not even the person who you are suppose to RSVP to. Personally I find it comical.
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 9:46am |
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Mike Presta said "That is NOT "reporting"! That is OPINION...EDITORIALIZING!!! Now I am NOT saying that Mr. Richter should not do so...that is certainly between him and his employer. But it certainly does seem to indicate that he has some degree of latitude in his "reporting".
Hi Mike - with all due respect, the article you are referring to is Ed's BLOG - a much different format than a story you would read in the paper in which blogging is exactly that: opinion and editorializing...farbeit for me to defend the MJ but in this case, Ed has the right to say/write what he did.
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MerrellWood
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 9:41am |
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Pacman,
Spoke to Armbruster again yesterday and he still claims there is no need for an RSVP.
I think Betsy Parr is gone untill next week and the law dept knows nothing.
I and others will be there RSVP or not.
Arn't we all beating this topic to death. Let's move on.
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Pacman
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 9:10am |
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It is called being Human Mike.
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Mike_Presta
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 9:07am |
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I humbly apologize to all of the regular readers of this forum, and to Mr. Richter, for losing my temper and going on that brief rant.
While I am sorry for the form, I do not apologize for the sentiment. All too often those who are actually trying to bring the problems to the forefront in order to find solutions are savagly criticized by those who prefer to ignore the problems in order to squander our precious resources on needless or useless imaginings. This MUST end, and we MUST both face our problems and find proper solutions if we are to survive as a city.
None of the foregoing, however, justifies me losing my temper or for attacking Mr. Richter. For that I DO apoligize.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 8:53am |
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And another thing, Mr. Richter!!!
Exactly how do you propose that these "more vocal critics of council" go about "sharing their ideas with the community"???
Those without the financial backing and other resources of "Moving Middletown Forward" can hardly be expected to compete fairly. They CERTAINLY will NOT get the same air time on TVMiddletown (paid for by WE, the PEOPLE) or be allowed to drone on and on at council meetings or other "conversations" arranged by city employees!!!
Why don't YOU look into THAT!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 8:43am |
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You are, of course, correct again, Pacman!
And please consider Mr. Richter's last paragraph:
That is NOT "reporting"! That is OPINION...EDITORIALIZING!!! Now I am NOT saying that Mr. Richter should not do so...that is certainly between him and his employer. But it certainly does seem to indicate that he has some degree of latitude in his "reporting".
By the way, and with all due respect Mr. Richter: If you had only followed this blog, you could have had this big news story on Mr. Picard pulling petitions THREE DAYS AGO!! That would have left you some time to do some "investigative reporting" on the other stories that you might read HERE FIRST!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Pacman
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 8:24am |
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Mr. Richter states:
"One thing that could make this election season more interesting would be to see some of the more vocal critics of council step up and run for one of the four empty seats. That could be another way to facilitate change for the community by sharing their ideas and see how the voters feel about those ideas being advanced."
Pacman Says:
A far faster way to Facilitate change in Middletown would be if the Middletown Journal and it's reporters did their jobs and actually delved into what has been happening to Middletown just over the last 10 years. Some topics for you Mr. Richter:
1) Section 8---why has no one from the MJ gone to the City gotten a hold of the letters and reports that escalated Section 8 to the level it is at today and WHO DID IT? Why has no one from the MJ ever done an in depth story on Section 8 that I can remember in Middletown? Why does Middletown have 1 Section 8 voucher for every 31 residents? Why has the MJ not interviewed anyone on council about Section 8 and the fact that they spent 2.5 years trying to get a contract ironed out? Why has no one ever interviewed City Council and the City Manager as to why we are the Section 8 capital of the SW Ohio and possibly Ohio period? I can't think of a better time to go ask these question of Mr. Marconi and get some answers for the Citizens before November. But the MJ won't and I have to ask, WHY NOT? But then the MJ won't answer that either.
2) Poverty same as above no one form the MJ has ever gone and done a story about this disaster in the City. Basically same questions as above.
3) Business retention once again the MJ and it's reporters ask and do nothing.
4) HUD issues once again nothing.
5) Schools once again no in dept reporting just the usual PR release sent from the School system.
6) Infrastructure why has it gotten to the point it has? What is being done other than considering a $500k bike path, etc?
7) Downtown another topic that deserves an in depth look and not just from the rah rah crowd standpoint.
8) Ed actually take some of the concerns from this board and go ask City Council about them
9) Ed instead of after the next City Council meeting just going back and typing verbatim what was said do an interview with a Council Member or two and give us some meat and not just fluff?
10) Charter Changes we get nothing from the MJ about this other than regurgitation of the minutes to the meetings.
I could go on but you get the point and please don't tell me, well Ed is a nice guy as this has absolutely nothing to do with whether Ed is a nice guy. It has everything to do with the MJ turning itself back into a real Newspaper, one that investigates and reports the News of this City to the Citizens that deserve to know what is actually going on in this city.
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Pacman
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 8:05am |
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So Mr. Wood what is the deal with the RSVP since you volunteered to Check into it?
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Smokey Burgess
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 12:55am |
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Another candidate for Middletown City CouncilBy Ed Richter | Thursday, June 25, 2009, 12:03 AM Looks like another person has an interest in becoming a member of Middletown City Council. According to the Butler County Board of Elections, Daniel Picard of Sherman Avenue has recently taken out petitions to run for the 4th Ward council seat being vacated by incumbent Councilman David Schiavone. The only other person who has taken out petitions for the 4th Ward seat is Geri Lynn Maples of Barbara Drive. Maples ran two years ago for an at-large seat and also sought appointment to council when there were vacancies a few years ago. As of now three of the four council seats that are up this fall could be contested. The only seat that has yet to see a second candidate emerge is in the 1st Ward which is currently held by incumbent Vice Mayor Jim Armbruster of Longford Drive. In the 2nd Ward, there could be two challengers to incumbent Councilwoman Leslie Ford of 17th Avenue. Those challengers who have also taken out petitions include John Soppanish of Lafayette Avenue and A.J. Smith Jr. of 16th Avenue. Smith, who worked as a campaigner for the Obama campaign, has recently launched a Web site, www.smithformiddletown.com. There supporters can also learn more about him as well as make a campaign contribution via credit card in amounts ranging from $10 to $1,000 or more. Although he has announced his intentions to run against Ford and has taken out petitions several weeks ago, Smith is planning to make a formal announcement of his candidacy at 11 a.m. Saturday, June 27 at the Poppin Buttons Restaurant at the corner of Minnesota Street and 16th Avenue. Over in the 3rd Ward, incumbent Councilman Tony Marconi of Rosedale Road may have opposition by Joshua Laubach of Flemming Road. However, Marconi is still the only candidate that has already filed his petitions. One thing that could make this election season more interesting would be to see some of the more vocal critics of council step up and run for one of the four empty seats. That could be another way to facilitate change for the community by sharing their ideas and see how the voters feel about those ideas being advanced. |
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Posted: Jun 24 2009 at 7:54am |
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Thanks Mike, I'll look into it further. Seems like another non-user friendly move by council members. However, I am pleased to see a new attempt at "conversations with council".
I made that suggestion in my last column in Sunday the 7th. in the MJ. Sounds like a re-election ploy by 2 of 3 candidates running for re-election this fall.
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Pacman
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Posted: Jun 24 2009 at 7:28am |
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Mr. Wood I posted the info about the RSVP on this site as it came from the City of Middletown Web Site right on the front page
NOTICE OF MEETING CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:00 P.M. The Manchester Inn Little Miami Ballroom 1027 Manchester Avenue Middletown, OH 45042 The public is invited to an evening of Conversation with Council hosted jointly by James Armbruster (Ward 1) and Leslie Ford (Ward 2) at The Manchester Hotel at 6 pm on Tuesday, June 30, 2009. Conversations with Council are informal gatherings designed to give residents of Middletown an opportunity to discuss issues that may come before council. Charter Review Committee members have been invited to attend to present the recommendations for amendments to Middletown’s Charter. The Charter Review Committee Report and the Legislation coming before Council on July 7, 2009 for second readings are all posted to the city’s website at www.cityofmiddletown.org andare available through the Law Department or Council Office on the third floor of the City Building, One Donham Plaza, Middletown, Ohio. If you plan to attend this Conversation with Council, please RSVP to betsyp@cityofmiddletown.orgFor more information, contact: Betsy Parr, Clerk of Council at 513-425-7831 betsyp@cityofmiddletown.orgOr Leslie Landen, Law Director at 513-425-7830 lesl@cityofmiddletown.org |
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MerrellWood
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Posted: Jun 24 2009 at 7:16am |
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Mike, I spoke to Armbruster yesterday on this topic and he claimed theire was no such thing as a registration required. He seemed a bit suprized that anyone thought that was necessary.
Where did that information come from? I haven't checked with Ms. Parr yet this morning but will do so as soon as she comes in.
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Mike_Presta
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Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 8:13pm |
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Our local elected leaders will only engage if they can cut off the citizens and then reply without rebuttal!!!
That is why they keep trying to meet when no outsiders are around, and then vote without discussion. It is also why they think they can "allow" citizens to attend meetings and ask for RSVPs!!! These are absolutely DISGUSTING actions!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 1:00pm |
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Its tough to find good people to run. I don't think we should let Armbruster run unopposed.
I'd like to get council to post here so they may speak and clarify what they say in council sessions. |
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Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 9:05am |
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thanks guys
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Mike_Presta
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First, I must advise you that I am NOT an attorney, and what follows is my personal OPINION ONLY!!! I seem to recall a requirement in either a previous version of our City Charter or a previous codification of our City Ordinances that one was required to be “an elector of the city” or “an elector of the ward” (depending upon whether one was running for an at-large or ward seat) for “at least one year” as a prerequisite to running for Middletown City Council. However, I can no longer find ANY requirements of ANY sort at all in the latest version of either document now. (As an aside, I wish that I would have noticed this before the Charter Review Committee finished this work. Perhaps they could have included appropriate requirements for we citizens to impose this November.) If the forgoing is the case, I believe that the provisions of the Ohio Revised Code still govern: Members of the “legislative authority of a municipal corporation” (this is the two-dollar term for “city council”) shall be electors of the municipal corporation. They shall not hold any other public office or employment, except that of notary public or member of the state militia, or state or county central committeeman of a political party, or state or county executive committeeman of a political party, or state or county officer of a political party, and shall not be interested in the profits or emoluments of any contract, job, work, or service for the municipal corporation. Any member who ceases to possess any of the qualifications required by this section shall forthwith forfeit his office. In plain English, this means that one must be a registered voter in the city (or ward, if running for a ward seat),and that if one moves out of that jurisdiction, or if you are involved in any way in dealings with the city, you automatically resign. It also means that you are NOT allowed to hold any other public office at the same time as you are a city council member. However, no one in Middletown pays much attention to this except me, and they all hold (and even APPOINT THEMSELVES to) whatever other offices they think look good on their resumes and might help them gain higher offices, so don’t let a little thing like “conflicts of interest” stop you from running in Middletown. I’m sure that the City Law Director’s Office can help you find a loophole around the pesky residency requirement if need be as well. It seems to mean nothing for any of the boards and commissions in Middletown any longer. |
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